A question about CD-R/CD-RW.

A question about CD-R/CD-RW.

Post by Madhusudan Sing » Sat, 01 Sep 2001 15:06:05



In an earlier thread, someone mentioned that the life of a CD-RW drive
gets appreciably reduced if one uses it as a CD-R drive as well. I have
such a setup. At the time of bootup, my CD-RW is detected as :

        hdc: LG CD-RW CED-8080B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive (I haven't the
foggiest notion whether it is really a DVD drive as well, I certainly did
not order it thus from Dell. Any hints here to confirm / disprove that
will also will be welcome, preferably without trying to play DVD's - I
have none :)).

        That apart, I wish to know whether damage to a CD-RW drive, if it
is (regularly) used as a CD-R drive, is generally seen or is it true for
just some subclass of manufacturers. If so, can someone suggest a *cheap*
CD-R drive that I can buy ? I have a USB port and a parallel port free, so
a USB drive would be great.

Thanks.

 
 
 

A question about CD-R/CD-RW.

Post by Jim Ankru » Sat, 01 Sep 2001 23:56:19



> In an earlier thread, someone mentioned that the life of a CD-RW drive
> gets appreciably reduced if one uses it as a CD-R drive as well. I have
> such a setup. At the time of bootup, my CD-RW is detected as :

>    hdc: LG CD-RW CED-8080B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive (I haven't the
> foggiest notion whether it is really a DVD drive as well, I certainly did
> not order it thus from Dell. Any hints here to confirm / disprove that
> will also will be welcome, preferably without trying to play DVD's - I
> have none :)).

>    That apart, I wish to know whether damage to a CD-RW drive, if it
> is (regularly) used as a CD-R drive, is generally seen or is it true for
> just some subclass of manufacturers. If so, can someone suggest a *cheap*
> CD-R drive that I can buy ? I have a USB port and a parallel port free, so
> a USB drive would be great.

> Thanks.

  I was the one that posted that earlier and to be fair I didn't buy the
highest quality drives (one was memorex another was acer) but I didn't
get a year out of either. They would continue to read most (but not all)
of the time but I would get buffer underruns like crazy when I'd try to
burn a disk... creating a lot of coasters :(

Jim

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A question about CD-R/CD-RW.

Post by Dave Bro » Sun, 02 Sep 2001 01:36:13




>> In an earlier thread, someone mentioned that the life of a CD-RW drive
>> gets appreciably reduced if one uses it as a CD-R drive as well. I have
>> such a setup. At the time of bootup, my CD-RW is detected as :

>>        That apart, I wish to know whether damage to a CD-RW drive, if it
>> is (regularly) used as a CD-R drive, is generally seen or is it true for
>> just some subclass of manufacturers. If so, can someone suggest a *cheap*
>> CD-R drive that I can buy ? I have a USB port and a parallel port free, so
>> a USB drive would be great.

>   I was the one that posted that earlier and to be fair I didn't buy the
> highest quality drives (one was memorex another was acer) but I didn't
> get a year out of either. They would continue to read most (but not all)
> of the time but I would get buffer underruns like crazy when I'd try to
> burn a disk... creating a lot of coasters :(

Buffer underruns don't sound like a "wearout" problem, sounds like software,
system performance, or a failed drive. Several years ago, CDRWs of many
brands were dropping like flies.

But, since I have a tower, I have both a CDROM and a CDRW.  I've noticed
that sometimes I'll come across a CDR unreadable by a CDROM, but readable
on the CDRW.  I suppose that could be a session problem or a fixation failure,
dunno.  I never have intentionally made a multi-session CDR.

Actually, I've got an old HP 2x CDRW on one machine I wish would fail so
I could justify getting a faster burner for that machine.

--
Dave Brown  Austin, TX

 
 
 

A question about CD-R/CD-RW.

Post by Yvan Lorang » Sun, 02 Sep 2001 03:03:12



> In an earlier thread, someone mentioned that the life of a CD-RW drive
> gets appreciably reduced if one uses it as a CD-R drive as well. I

Wasn't it "...as a CR-ROM as well"?
A salesperson told me that too. So I got a CD-ROM & no CD-RW but am
holding out for a DVD-W or whatever consumer-confusing acronym marketing
people will use for my next backup device when my tape drive dies
[stupid proprietary tape format readable only on discontinued drive!].

Quote:> such a setup. At the time of bootup, my CD-RW is detected as :
>    hdc: LG CD-RW CED-8080B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive (I haven't the
> foggiest notion whether it is really a DVD drive as well, I certainly did
> not order it thus from Dell. Any hints here to confirm / disprove that
> will also will be welcome, preferably without trying to play DVD's - I
> have none :)).

I'm guessing "CD/DVD-ROM drive" means at that point Linux doesn't know
which type it is, even with the id "LG CD-RW .." being reported. I know
my Asus cd-rom has a combined CD-DVD ms-dos driver, which would indicate
CD & DVD look quite similar to software. BTW you can rent a DVD.

Quote:>      That apart, I wish to know whether damage to a CD-RW drive, if it
> is (regularly) used as a CD-R drive, is generally seen or is it true for
> just some subclass of manufacturers. If so, can someone suggest a *cheap*
> CD-R drive that I can buy ? I have a USB port and a parallel port free, so
> a USB drive would be great.--

Merci...........Yvan          Why dont people understand when
                          I say my automobile has 100 Megametres on it?
 
 
 

A question about CD-R/CD-RW.

Post by Michael Lee Yoh » Sun, 02 Sep 2001 04:45:39


Quote:> Actually, I've got an old HP 2x CDRW on one machine I wish would fail
> so I could justify getting a faster burner for that machine.

Same here.. Philips 2000 series 2X CD-R (no RW).  Fast SCSI-2 interface
and still kickin'. :)  And CD-R burners are so cheap now... <g>

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1. broken 2.2 IDE CD-RW (was Re: plain 2.2.X: no ide CD-RW?)

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Sorry, I was referring to the backport of the 2.4 IDE code to 2.2.
I'm currently using ide.2.2.19.05042001 successfully, which I got from:

  ftp://ftp.us.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/ide-2.2.19

I've used several similar patches, though.  Stock 2.4 kernels work
fine with my CD-RW as well; however, I've now discovered that plain
2.2 kernels do not.  This could easily be a long-standing problem,
probably at least a year old - I've only recently stumbled across it,
though.

Since I have a solution (use the 2.4 IDE backport), this isn't
critical; however, since many people still rely on 2.2, and I'd like
to use a stock 2.2 kernel if possible, I'm willing to spend some time
debugging this.

Thanks!

  --Anil

(A bit of background: Before I got my CD-RW drive last summer, I
bought an OnStream DI-30 drive.  This drive was then only supported on
2.2 with the 2.4 IDE backport, and so I've used this drive
successfully with 2.2.16 + 2.4 IDE patch, and a similar combination
since.  Since stock 2.2.19+ now support this drive through the osst
patch, I thought I'd try it out.  It does work, but at the cost of
losing my CD-RW.)

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