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by **Dmitry Yaitsko** » Wed, 21 May 1997 04:00:00

Are there any?

Thanks.

--
Cheers,
-Dima.

by **David Mador** » Wed, 21 May 1997 04:00:00

> ) Are there any?

> No. Most WWW browsers are much larger (on the order of several megabytes). If
> you can find a 128-bit WWW browser, I'm sure we'd all be very interested.

Maybe he meant: a web browser which can handle data that needs a 128-bit
address
bus. That is, data as large as a couple of hundred million million
million
yotabytes (if you don't know what a yotabyte is, it's a million million
terabytes).
I don't think those exist either. :-)

David A. Madore

http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/madore/index.html)

by **James McInin** » Wed, 21 May 1997 04:00:00

) Are there any?

No. Most WWW browsers are much larger (on the order of several megabytes). If
you can find a 128-bit WWW browser, I'm sure we'd all be very interested.

--
James McIninch
School of Biology, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332-0230

by **Steve May** » Thu, 22 May 1997 04:00:00

>> ) Are there any?

>> No. Most WWW browsers are much larger (on the order of several megabytes). If
>> you can find a 128-bit WWW browser, I'm sure we'd all be very interested.

>Maybe he meant: a web browser which can handle data that needs a 128-bit
>address
>bus. That is, data as large as a couple of hundred million million
>million
>yotabytes (if you don't know what a yotabyte is, it's a million million
>terabytes).
>I don't think those exist either. :-)

If I'm not mistaken, I believe that he is talking about a 128-bit encryption
method. I know that Netscape has one available for Win95/NT4.0, but I don't
believe that they have a Linux port. FWIW, trying to download the 128-bit
version requires a couple of forms to be filled out for record keeping
purposes and is not able to be downloaded from outside the U.S.

Steve Mayer

by **Joe Blo** » Thu, 22 May 1997 04:00:00

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>If I'm not mistaken, I believe that he is talking about a 128-bit encryption
>method. I know that Netscape has one available for Win95/NT4.0, but I don't
>believe that they have a Linux port.

If Netscape doesn't have a 128-bit encryption Linux port then I must be
imagining the one I'm running right now.

Quote:>FWIW, trying to download the 128-bit
>version requires a couple of forms to be filled out for record keeping
>purposes and is not able to be downloaded from outside the U.S.

Or you could save all the hassle and simply download it from one of the
ftp sites outside the US which have copies available with no restrictions.

Joe

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by **Dale Ponti** » Thu, 22 May 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
> How do Netscape get away with exporting Netscape then, that is I think
> about 6Mb big
> and I thought that any software > 40 or so bits could nto be exported? Come
> to think
> of that, how do Microsoft get away with it?

> Even more so, how do they get away with shipping a product than can be
> crashed from
> anywhere on the net with 6 lines or perl!? :)

Aside from Gold and "other", there are two versions of Netscape,
40 (or 44 or 48) bit keys and 128 bit keys. The small-key version
can be freely exported. The 128 bit key version has checks to
make sure you're in the USA when you download it, and you click
an agreement not to export it, yourself.

There are other WWW browsers, and some of them are primarily
shipped out of Europe. Perhaps one of those has a 128 bit key.

Dale Pontius
(NOT speaking for IBM)

by **Leigh Porte** » Thu, 22 May 1997 04:00:00

> ) Are there any?

> No. Most WWW browsers are much larger (on the order of several
megabytes). If
> you can find a 128-bit WWW browser, I'm sure we'd all be very interested.

How do Netscape get away with exporting Netscape then, that is I think
about 6Mb big
and I thought that any software > 40 or so bits could nto be exported? Come
to think
of that, how do Microsoft get away with it?

Even more so, how do they get away with shipping a product than can be
crashed from
anywhere on the net with 6 lines or perl!? :)

--
Leigh Porter

> --
> James McIninch
> School of Biology, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332-0230

by **Oliver Flim** » Thu, 22 May 1997 04:00:00

Hi,

> How do Netscape get away with exporting Netscape then, that is I think
> about 6Mb big
> and I thought that any software > 40 or so bits could nto be exported? Come
> to think
> of that, how do Microsoft get away with it?

They simply don't export the 128bit version. There are (at least from
netscape) special 40bit Export versions of their webbrowsers.... The
same applies to netscapes fasttrack webserver :-(

For a full blown SSL-Webserver there are other possibilities: Apache
with SSLeay :-)

For Webbrowsers, I don't know of anyone with more than 40bit encryption.

Regards,

Oliver

--

CipLab, Institutes of Physics WWW : http://www.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de/~flimm

The ultimate tragedy in science is the ruining of a beautiful hypothesis
by an ugly fact. (A. Huxley)

by **Mark Ramo** » Thu, 22 May 1997 04:00:00

> >> ) Are there any?

> >> No. Most WWW browsers are much larger (on the order of several megabytes). If
> >> you can find a 128-bit WWW browser, I'm sure we'd all be very interested.

> >Maybe he meant: a web browser which can handle data that needs a 128-bit
> >address
> >bus. That is, data as large as a couple of hundred million million
> >million
> >yotabytes (if you don't know what a yotabyte is, it's a million million
> >terabytes).
> >I don't think those exist either. :-)

> If I'm not mistaken, I believe that he is talking about a 128-bit encryption
> method. I know that Netscape has one available for Win95/NT4.0, but I don't
> believe that they have a Linux port. FWIW, trying to download the 128-bit
> version requires a couple of forms to be filled out for record keeping
> purposes and is not able to be downloaded from outside the U.S.

> Steve Mayer

How 'bout we wait for Dima to explain what he means by "128 bit
Netscape" before we fill up this news group with this thread?

--
Mark J. Ramos

by **David M. Co** » Fri, 23 May 1997 04:00:00

On 20 May 1997 19:43:23 GMT, James McIninch

>No. Most WWW browsers are much larger (on the order of several megabytes).

Smartass.

by **Christopher B. Brow** » Fri, 23 May 1997 04:00:00

>On 20 May 1997 19:43:23 GMT, James McIninch

>>No. Most WWW browsers are much larger (on the order of several megabytes).
>Smartass.

"You think you had it hard? You were lucky! When I was a boy, we had
to write WWW browsers to fit into 8 bits of memory. Our system
administrator would kill us all each evening with a bread knife, and
then dance on our graves singing hallelujah."

"And you tell the young people that these days and they don't believe
you. Kids.."

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by **Oliver Flim** » Fri, 23 May 1997 04:00:00

Hi

> For Webbrowsers, I don't know of anyone with more than 40bit encryption.

As far as the export version is concerned, of course...

Regards,

Oliver

--

CipLab, Institutes of Physics WWW : http://www.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de/~flimm

The ultimate tragedy in science is the ruining of a beautiful hypothesis
by an ugly fact. (A. Huxley)

by **Dmitry Yaitsko** » Fri, 23 May 1997 04:00:00

> If Netscape doesn't have a 128-bit encryption Linux port then I must
> be imagining the one I'm running right now.

> >FWIW, trying to download the 128-bit
> >version requires a couple of forms to be filled out for record
> >keeping purposes and is not able to be downloaded from outside the
> > U.S.

> Or you could save all the hassle and simply download it from one of
> the ftp sites outside the US which have copies available with no
> restrictions.

Could you please direct me to one of them? Or tell me the exact name of
the archive file? (please email if possible).

Cheers,
-Dima.

by **Dmitry Yaitsko** » Sat, 24 May 1997 04:00:00

Quote:> How 'bout we wait for Dima to explain what he means by "128 bit
> Netscape" before we fill up this news group with this thread?

But of course I meant 128-bit encryption (as opposed to 40-bit used in
regular versions)... sorry guys, I really couldn't imagine that anybody'd
think that I meant anything else... To repeat: no, I am not looking for a
web browser that needs only 128 bits of RAM to run. No, I am not looking
for a browser that "can handle data that needs a 128-bit address" (whatever
that means). No, I am not looking for a 128-bit browser as opposed to
16-bit or 32-bit ones. But thanks for the suggestions anyway.

I would like to find a version of netscape for linux that allows 128-bit
encryption when connecting to secure sites... There are such vesions for
windows (which you can download if you are in the USA or Canada), and there
are 128-bit versions of IE, also for USA/Canada. I *am* in Canada, but I
would like a linux version. Somebody in this thread said that he's running
such a version - I would like to know where it can be downloaded. That's
all, really...

Cheers,
-Dima.

by **Richard Hecto** » Mon, 26 May 1997 04:00:00

> "You think you had it hard? You were lucky! When I was a boy, we had
> to write WWW browsers to fit into 8 bits of memory. Our system
> administrator would kill us all each evening with a bread knife, and
> then dance on our graves singing hallelujah."

Is this an example of ECISC (Extremely Complex Instruction Set
Computer)? One opcode provides a complete browser ...

Richard Hector

Very Computer

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