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Greetings,

    I thought that I would share this little piece of news with you
all, as I could not believe it myself.  I am a Slackware user, and
recently decided to try Mandrake 7.1.  I have noticed some bugs
but this one is just too much:

/etc/passwd: ASCII test

ASCII test?  I mean really.  This, to me, is indicative of the haphazard
way in which RH/Mandrake is thrown together.  There are of course other
bugs, too numerous to mention here....  This is very dissappointing, as
one would think that they test thier RPMs before distributing them.
Sadly, I guess this is not the case, and I am now reminded why I like
Slackware (or Debian) so much.  Attention to detail.

[ Thank you for listening to my rant! ]

Regards,

anm
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IHBT aside,

Your problem with this is????

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Quote:> What should it say instead?

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/etc/passwd: ASCII text
                                 ^^^^
It is TEST all right...

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$$
$$ IHBT aside,
$$

$$ > /etc/passwd: ASCII test
$$ >
$$ > ASCII test?  I mean really.  This, to me, is indicative of the haphazard
$$ > way in which RH/Mandrake is thrown together.  There are of course other
$$ > bugs, too numerous to mention here....  This is very dissappointing, as
$$ > one would think that they test thier RPMs before distributing them.
$$ > Sadly, I guess this is not the case, and I am now reminded why I like
$$ > Slackware (or Debian) so much.  Attention to detail.
$$

$$ /etc/passwd: ASCII text
$$
$$ Your problem with this is????

Nothing, but that is not what I posted!!!  Using default Mandrake 7.1,
downloaded from http://www.mandrake.com and burned to CD, I get
'ASCII test', but then I already posted that.  Then again, if you use
bash or tcsh with $TERM set to xterm you get a 'c' before your prompt
every time you use vim.  Set $TERM to vt100 and it goes away, probably a
/etc/termcap error.  This happens in konsole, not xterm.  Then again, I
could also mention some heinous grammar errors during the installation
process.   There is also the fact that a SCSI zip drive does not work
correctly, etc, etc.... Needless to say I have had none of these
problems on Slackware.  There are many other things that I could point
out that leads me to believe that Madrake/RH distributions are of a
lesser quality, than say Debian or Slackware.   For a more compete list
of discrepencies read the archive for this group, or contact me by
email.

Regards,

anm
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file /etc/passwd
/etc/passwd: ASCII text

But on a postive note .... you have access to the sources. Fix it.
Recompile and voila! No more problem.

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What should it say instead? Anyway, what makes this a bug? Is it noted
in a standard somewhere that it should be something else or is it just
different from what you had in Slackware?

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]Greetings,

]    I thought that I would share this little piece of news with you
]all, as I could not believe it myself.  I am a Slackware user, and
]recently decided to try Mandrake 7.1.  I have noticed some bugs
]but this one is just too much:

]/etc/passwd: ASCII test

Dear oh dear. Mandrake must definitely be on its last legs. First they list
their man version (man -v)  as 1.5f when it is really 1.5g, and now they have a
misprint, putting in "test" rather than "text". Definitely a complete
disaster-- the whole operating system no longer works-- noone can do
anything, no program runs. The Horror, The Horror.

And oh dear, it is worse than that. That Mandrake did not write "file"
and uses the same source as does Slackware is irrelevant.  Mandrake has managed to infect
Ian Darwin, the author of "file", so that the version 3.30 (the one
included in Mandrake) on the file page ftp.astron.com/pub/file also contains
 the same error. I can see it now. Soon even Slackware will be infected,
 and the world will end.

Quote:> Ian Darwin, the author of "file", so that the version 3.30 (the one
> included in Mandrake) on the file page ftp.astron.com/pub/file also
contains
>  the same error. I can see it now. Soon even Slackware will be
infected,
>  and the world will end.

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Before you buy.

euler(jk)$ file /etc/passwd
/etc/passwd: ASCII text

Quote:> This, to me, is indicative of the haphazard
> way in which RH/Mandrake is thrown together.

Quote:> There are of course other
> bugs, too numerous to mention here....

file is not the most important utility on a unix system.  since you
are just blowing smoke, why not make up stuff about a more important
component?

Quote:> This is very dissappointing, as
> one would think that they test thier RPMs before distributing them.

Quote:> Sadly, I guess this is not the case, and I am now reminded why I like
> Slackware (or Debian) so much.  Attention to detail.

Quote:> [ Thank you for listening to my rant! ]

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$$
$$ > Greetings,
$$ >
$$ >     I thought that I would share this little piece of news with you
$$ > all, as I could not believe it myself.  I am a Slackware user, and
$$ > recently decided to try Mandrake 7.1.  I have noticed some bugs
$$ > but this one is just too much:
$$ >

$$ > /etc/passwd: ASCII test
$$ >
$$ > ASCII test?  I mean really.
$$
$$ really?  i am using redhat 6.2 and get

Did, I say I was using RH? No.

$$
$$ /etc/passwd: ASCII text
$$
$$ > This, to me, is indicative of the haphazard
$$ > way in which RH/Mandrake is thrown together.
$$
$$ this, to me, is a perfect illustration of the fundamentally bogus
$$ nature of the vast bulk of accusations against redhat.  redhat does
$$ have problems, do us the favor of levelling competant criticism
$$ instead of making stuff up off the top of your head.

Yeah, I just made it up and typed it in. :-)
You get an A for not so smart.

$$ > There are of course other
$$ > bugs, too numerous to mention here....
$$
$$ like the way file is just a guesser and ultimately broken on *every*
$$ unix system?

No.  Not at all.

$$ file is not the most important utility on a unix system.  since you
$$ are just blowing smoke, why not make up stuff about a more important
$$ component?

I did not make anything up.  Secondly my point was "ATTENTION TO
DETAIL".  Something you could use a little of since you have chosen
to disregard everything I said and just flame instead.

$$ > This is very dissappointing, as
$$ > one would think that they test thier RPMs before distributing them.
$$
$$ this is very dissappointing as i would have though that people test
$$ their accusations before flinging them.

Cut and paste.  Are you totally inept?
The only one here spreading falsehoods is you, I would not even have
brought up the subject if it was not tested.

$$ > Sadly, I guess this is not the case, and I am now reminded why I like
$$ > Slackware (or Debian) so much.  Attention to detail.
$$
$$ sadly, i guess this is not the case.  i am now reminded of why i feel
$$ there is a certain small but vocal subset of slackware and debian who
$$ use a religious conviction of their distribution's alledged
$$ superiority to justify any amount of misinformation, slander and lying
$$ to bolster their position.  there really are a lot of decent slackware
$$ users.  why do you insist on giving them a bad name?

I have not lied about one thing yet, I said I was using Mandrake 7.1.
You took it to mean RH 6.2, you assumed, and now you look like an ass.
The only reason I put RedHat in the subject line is becuase  RH
and Mandrake share a lineage, thats it.  I was talking primarily about
Mandrake.

$$ > [ Thank you for listening to my rant! ]
$$
$$ i think your rant says more about you, than it says about any system
$$ you are trying to malign.

Not really, becuase just like Mandrake, you did not pay any attention to
detail.

anm
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$$
$$
$$ ]Greetings,
$$
$$ ]    I thought that I would share this little piece of news with you
$$ ]all, as I could not believe it myself.  I am a Slackware user, and
$$ ]recently decided to try Mandrake 7.1.  I have noticed some bugs
$$ ]but this one is just too much:
$$

$$ ]/etc/passwd: ASCII test
$$
$$ Dear oh dear. Mandrake must definitely be on its last legs. First they list
$$ their man version (man -v)  as 1.5f when it is really 1.5g, and now they have a
$$ misprint, putting in "test" rather than "text". Definitely a complete
$$ disaster-- the whole operating system no longer works-- noone can do
$$ anything, no program runs. The Horror, The Horror.

Real good, sarcasm justifies broken software right? OK Bill Gates.

$$ And oh dear, it is worse than that. That Mandrake did not write "file"
$$ and uses the same source as does Slackware is irrelevant.  Mandrake has managed to infect
$$ Ian Darwin, the author of "file", so that the version 3.30 (the one
$$ included in Mandrake) on the file page ftp.astron.com/pub/file also contains
$$  the same error. I can see it now. Soon even Slackware will be infected,
$$  and the world will end.

The point is it should have been corrected.  The amount of buggy items
I see in Mandrake compared to what I see in Slack is staggering, IMO.

This is just my opinion.  I could if you wish go through all the lists
and all the software, and total all the errors up, but I am not going
to.  I have admined Solaris/HP-UX/FreeBSD/Linux machines for long enough
to know that Mandrake is not well planned out.

anm
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