ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

Post by Dan Sta » Wed, 02 Feb 2000 04:00:00



Does anyone know if ReiserFS, the journaling filesystem, is: ready for
prime time, has ACL support and is GPL'ed?  Also, is SGI going to
release their journaling file system XFS under the GPL?

--Dan

 
 
 

ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

Post by Christopher Brow » Wed, 02 Feb 2000 04:00:00


Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Dan Star would say:

Quote:>Does anyone know if ReiserFS, the journaling filesystem, is: ready for
>prime time, has ACL support and is GPL'ed?  Also, is SGI going to
>release their journaling file system XFS under the GPL?

I'm sure someone knows.

I suspect that if you looked at the web sites of the respective
projects, you might find find some indication as to their plans.

As for ACL support, I suspect that you're confused.  ACL support is
something that should certainly *not* be tied to a particular
filesystem, but rather be applied across all sorts of filesystems.  It
would be a most *terrible* thing if we had Reiserfs ACLs, a distinct
and different scheme for Ext3 ACLs, and then not have any ACL support
for Ext2 or XFS.

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ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

Post by Sean Johnso » Wed, 02 Feb 2000 04:00:00


I've been using ReiserFS on all of my partitions except the /boot
partition for a few months now, and haven't had any problems. I'm
running Debian GNU/Linux w/ the 2.2.14 kernel.

Sean


> Does anyone know if ReiserFS, the journaling filesystem, is: ready for
> prime time, has ACL support and is GPL'ed?  Also, is SGI going to
> release their journaling file system XFS under the GPL?

> --Dan

 
 
 

ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

Post by Hal Burgi » Wed, 02 Feb 2000 04:00:00



>Does anyone know if ReiserFS, the journaling filesystem, is: ready for
>prime time, has ACL support and is GPL'ed?  Also, is SGI going to
>release their journaling file system XFS under the GPL?

There seem to be many using ReiserFS now. Both are either GPL, or at
least something close to this. SGI announced recently XFS would be
released by 'summer'.

--
Hal B

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ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

Post by Dan Sta » Thu, 03 Feb 2000 04:00:00



> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Dan Star would say:
> >Does anyone know if ReiserFS, the journaling filesystem, is: ready for
> >prime time, has ACL support and is GPL'ed?  Also, is SGI going to
> >release their journaling file system XFS under the GPL?

> I'm sure someone knows.

> I suspect that if you looked at the web sites of the respective
> projects, you might find find some indication as to their plans.

I did check the sites, but saw nothing on these topics.

Quote:> As for ACL support, I suspect that you're confused.  ACL support is
> something that should certainly *not* be tied to a particular
> filesystem, but rather be applied across all sorts of filesystems.  It
> would be a most *terrible* thing if we had Reiserfs ACLs, a distinct
> and different scheme for Ext3 ACLs, and then not have any ACL support
> for Ext2 or XFS.

Doesn't the file system have to natively support ACL's like vxfs
(veritas) so when a backup is done the ACL information is captured, and
possibly other issues too?

--Dan

 
 
 

ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

Post by Marti » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00



> I've been using ReiserFS on all of my partitions except the /boot
> partition for a few months now, and haven't had any problems.

What are the benefits ?

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-- Martin

 
 
 

ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

Post by Christopher Brow » Sun, 06 Feb 2000 04:00:00


Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Martin would say:


>> I've been using ReiserFS on all of my partitions except the /boot
>> partition for a few months now, and haven't had any problems.

>What are the benefits ?

Three promises, two of which seem pretty effective already:

a) Journalling.
   What this indicates is that updates head into a journal/"redo log"
   before hitting the filesystem proper.

   Practical upshot:  If you reboot unexpectedly due to (say) power
   issues, there's no long fsck to hold you back.  On modern HUGE disk
   drives, running fsck can take a LONG time.  With Reiserfs, all that
   happens is that it replays the redo log to update the last few
   things that may have been changed on disk.  This takes a few
   seconds, not a few minutes.

b) Uses B-trees to represent directories.

   This guarantees O(log n) access time to files.  If you have
   directories with MANY, MANY files, as occurs on news servers, this
   can be a substantial improvement over the O(n) scan that can be
   required by Ext2.

c) Efficient storage of tiny files.

   The intent is to allow efficiently storing tiny files, so that the
   minimum consumption may be 50 bytes rather than being 2K or so.

   This makes it practical to construct applications that, instead of
   writing data out to one big file, and then having to parse it,
   create hierarchical information by writing out hordes of tiny
   files.  

   Parsers can go away, and you can get fast random access to update
   bits of data here and there.

   The COOL application is to use this to represent a database, where
   each record is a file.  Rather than the Windows Registry situation
   of the database being a fragile binary data structure sitting a
   little fearfully atop a filesystem, you use the robustness of the
   filesystem to keep the DBMS robust, and committing an update to a
   record can be done robustly in a SHELL SCRIPT via something as
   simple as:
      echo $NEWVALUE > $DBHOME/$MYTABLE/$KEY

   I'm not sure how efficient Reiserfs is, at this point, so this is
   not yet a strength...
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that.

 
 
 

ReiserFS and SGI XFS journaling file systems?

Post by han » Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:00:00



> Does anyone know if ReiserFS, the journaling filesystem, is: ready for
> prime time, has ACL support and is GPL'ed?

i did try reiserfs [13jan00-version] on 2.2.14 SMP! because i need a
filesystem
that can handle >10^6 [small] files, and it seems fairly stable.
more on: http://users.castel.nl/~woerdt/perl/reiserfs.txt
there are still incompatabilities with raid as i understand it
han

Quote:> Also, is SGI going to
> release their journaling file system XFS under the GPL?

> --Dan

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1. Journaling File System for Linux (ext3 and ReiserFS)

If you're considering beta code, you should also consider IBM's JFS,
SGI's XFS, as well as the "Tux2" filesystem.

All have differing qualities that might commend them to your needs, or
discommend them.  None is so clearly superior to the others as to be
unambiguously considered "best."

I would think it fairly silly to implement your own journaling file
system when there are all these existing ones already.  If you're
interested in working on the implementation of one of these, you
should take a look at their web sites and see which is most suitable
for you to contribute to.

The ReiserFS group have an open mailing list, and various developers
contribute code to it; they certainly are accepting of good
contributions of code.  Some of the others involve somewhat less
public communities and may be more difficult to contribute to.  Your
milage will vary...
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