new user, old computer

new user, old computer

Post by Pedro Figueire » Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:02:08



I have this old pentium 133 with 32Mb of Ram which I'd like to convert
to a linux box. I'm new to linux, and I'd like to know what can I
expect from it running on such an outdated box. I'd use mainly for
text editing and processing, but I was hoping it could handle some
programming (c++ and java) work. For the record, borland's compiler
runs fine on this machine under windows, djgpp is slower but still
acceptable. Also, what GUI would you recommend me knowing that memory
is an issue? What distro should I get? I know there's no such thing as
a "best distro", but what would you generally recommend to a new linu
user who's running it on an old computer? I know I won't be able to
run all those fancy GUIs and stuff like that... I'm simply looking for
stability and acceptable speed. For heavy-slow-crashing software I
have another machine running another OS.

Thank you so much,
Pedro

--
Pedro Figueiredo

y la felicidad de ese paraso es la felicidad
peculiar de las despedidas, de la renunciacin
y de los que saben que duermen. - J. L. Borges

 
 
 

new user, old computer

Post by Anthon » Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:21:40


Linux will run just fine on that system.  I have Redhat 7.3 running on an
old Pentium 100mhz and on an AMD 200mhz system.  KDE/Gnome will be a bit
slow on systems with only 32mb ram so you might use a smaller windowing
GUI.. but other than that you'll be good to go.

Anthony


> I have this old pentium 133 with 32Mb of Ram which I'd like to convert
> to a linux box. I'm new to linux, and I'd like to know what can I
> expect from it running on such an outdated box. I'd use mainly for
> text editing and processing, but I was hoping it could handle some
> programming (c++ and java) work. For the record, borland's compiler
> runs fine on this machine under windows, djgpp is slower but still
> acceptable. Also, what GUI would you recommend me knowing that memory
> is an issue? What distro should I get? I know there's no such thing as
> a "best distro", but what would you generally recommend to a new linu
> user who's running it on an old computer? I know I won't be able to
> run all those fancy GUIs and stuff like that... I'm simply looking for
> stability and acceptable speed. For heavy-slow-crashing software I
> have another machine running another OS.

> Thank you so much,
> Pedro

> --
> Pedro Figueiredo

> y la felicidad de ese paraso es la felicidad
> peculiar de las despedidas, de la renunciacin
> y de los que saben que duermen. - J. L. Borges


 
 
 

new user, old computer

Post by David Dorwar » Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:23:09


Pedro Figueiredo might have typed:

Quote:> I have this old pentium 133 with 32Mb of Ram which I'd like to convert
> to a linux box. I'm new to linux, and I'd like to know what can I
> expect from it running on such an outdated box. I'd use mainly for
> text editing and processing, but I was hoping it could handle some
> programming (c++ and java) work.

There shouldn't be any problem with C++ (gcc) or Java (Sun Java SDK, the
blackdown version or the IBM version)

Quote:> For the record, borland's compiler
> runs fine on this machine under windows, djgpp is slower but still
> acceptable. Also, what GUI would you recommend me knowing that memory
> is an issue?

blackbox (nice), icewm (looks a bit like Windows), or aewm (very small but
tricky to set up)

Quote:> What distro should I get? I know there's no such thing as
> a "best distro", but what would you generally recommend to a new linu
> user who's running it on an old computer?

Tricky, I would suggest Debian, but its a touch tricky to install if you
don't know what you are doing. If you can I'd suggest you contact a local
Linux User Group and ask someone there to help you get it going.

--
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Thinking about emailing me? Only do so if it isn't apropriate for this
newsgroup. If it should have been in the group it will  probably be ignored.

 
 
 

new user, old computer

Post by Bob Hauc » Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:10:34



> I have this old pentium 133 with 32Mb of Ram which I'd like to convert
> to a linux box.

I'm typing this on a P120 laptop with 48 MB.  I'm using Debian 3.0 with
the Blackbox window manager.  For most things it is perfectly fine,
although Mozilla is sluggish (I use Opera instead).

Quote:> I'd use mainly for text editing and processing, but I was hoping it
> could handle some programming (c++ and java) work.

C++ shouldn't be a problem, at least until the program gets pretty big.
Java being the pig that it is might be annoying to use ("java -version"
takes about five seconds with 1.3.1_02a from Blackdown).

--
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

 
 
 

new user, old computer

Post by Jean-David Beye » Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:21:07


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| I have this old pentium 133 with 32Mb of Ram which I'd like to
| convert to a linux box. I'm new to linux, and I'd like to know
| what can I expect from it running on such an outdated box. I'd
| use mainly for text editing and processing, but I was hoping it
| could handle some programming (c++ and java) work. For the
| record, borland's compiler runs fine on this machine under
| windows, djgpp is slower but still acceptable. Also, what GUI
| would you recommend me knowing that memory is an issue? What
| distro should I get? I know there's no such thing as a "best
| distro", but what would you generally recommend to a new linu user
| who's running it on an old computer? I know I won't be able to run
| all those fancy GUIs and stuff like that... I'm simply looking
| for stability and acceptable speed. For heavy-slow-crashing
| software I have another machine running another OS.
|
While I normally run on a fast SMP machine with 512MBytes main
memory, I also run on a Pentium 166 with 256MBytes main memory. That
machine had only 64 MBytes of memory in it, and it ran Red Hat Linux
6.0 just fine with GNOME/Enlightenment running the windows and
desktop, but when I installed Red Hat Linux 7.3 it thrashed like the
*ens. I decided to increase the memory to the max the board would
take (256MBytes), but the new memory came in one stick at a time.
~From this, I determined that if you want to run GNOME/Sawfish (what
comes with R.H.L.7.3 if you do not want KDE), you need 128 Mbytes
minimum. It is still a little slow, and since I am used to a dual
550MHz Pentium III setup, it is annoying, but not much worse than
Windows 95 that also runs on the old machine.

For example, Mozilla takes about 20 seconds to come up on the old
machine, but only about 2 seconds on the fast machine. Of course,
the old machine has Western Digital Caviar disk drives (5400 rpm,
IIRC) on the ADAPI interface (or whatever it is called) and the new
one has 10,000 rpm hard drives on an Ultra-2 SCSI interface, which
may account for some of it.

If you can increase the memory, I suggest doing so. If you cannot, I
suggest finding a smaller, leaner, meaner desktop manager than
GNOME/Sawfish.

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new user, old computer

Post by Robert Helle » Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:05:06



  In a message on Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:02:08 GMT, wrote :

PF> I have this old pentium 133 with 32Mb of Ram which I'd like to convert
PF> to a linux box. I'm new to linux, and I'd like to know what can I
PF> expect from it running on such an outdated box. I'd use mainly for
PF> text editing and processing, but I was hoping it could handle some
PF> programming (c++ and java) work. For the record, borland's compiler
PF> runs fine on this machine under windows, djgpp is slower but still
PF> acceptable. Also, what GUI would you recommend me knowing that memory
PF> is an issue? What distro should I get? I know there's no such thing as
PF> a "best distro", but what would you generally recommend to a new linu
PF> user who's running it on an old computer? I know I won't be able to
PF> run all those fancy GUIs and stuff like that... I'm simply looking for
PF> stability and acceptable speed. For heavy-slow-crashing software I
PF> have another machine running another OS.

This machine can run Linux fine.  I would *not* bother with the fancy
desktop systems (Gnome and KDE), but a plain/lightweight X11 window manager
like fvwm will work well on this machine.  I have a '486/50 laptop with
32meg of RAM and that is what I use.  I have LaTeX, GCC/G++, and so on
installed on it.  You won't want to bother with a heavy duty application
like GIMP.  Oh, forget about Java -- a P133 is too slow for java to run
well.

I presently run RedHat 5.2 on my laytop, but I also run RH 6.1 on my
'486/66 printserver (also 32meg of RAM), so I guess RH 6.2 should run
just fine on your P133 w/ 32meg of RAM.  How large is the disk?  You'll
want a disk that is at least 4gig.

PF>
PF> Thank you so much,
PF> Pedro
PF>
PF>
PF> --
PF> Pedro Figueiredo
PF>
PF> y la felicidad de ese paraso es la felicidad
PF> peculiar de las despedidas, de la renunciacin
PF> y de los que saben que duermen. - J. L. Borges
PF>                                                                                            

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new user, old computer

Post by snowfa » Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:09:52


Re: running Linux on a 133 with 32 Mb --

I'm sending this from a 200 speed with 32
Mb. I have put half a dozen different
distros on here and most worked OK. You
usually have to do a text install not a
graphical install. Instead of KDE or
Gnome try icewm, fvwm, or Blackbox. All
those are reasonably light.

HTH
MP

 
 
 

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