A: How to say "Linux"?

A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by Al La » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00



What is the correct pronounciation of "Linux"?  Is it "Line-nucks" or
"Lin-nu-s"?  I once heard a librarian in the US called it "Line-nuck-s"
but heard other different pronounciation in other countries?

English is not my first language.  Pls clarify.  Thanks.

-al

 
 
 

A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by (Cybiades)Peter » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00



> What is the correct pronounciation of "Linux"?  Is it "Line-nucks" or
> "Lin-nu-s"?  I once heard a librarian in the US called it "Line-nuck-s"
> but heard other different pronounciation in other countries?

> English is not my first language.  Pls clarify.  Thanks.

> -al

Go to your nearest mirror site, like a sunsite or tsx-11 and look for
the sillysounds subdir...Linus has recorded an .au of himself saying the
name...if you own a distribution, do a find for .au's on your system;
chances are it's on there, as that's the file they play to test your
sound card's config out.
'Later
Peter
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A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by K& » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00


This question is very good for starting a holy war among
English-speaking Linux users. I'll try to give an impartial answer.

In English the two most common pronunciations are, as you mention
"lin-nicks" and "line-uks" (or some variation thereof).

The "correct" version seems to vary depending on the group of people
with whom you associate. Local tradition tends to dominate over academic
reasoning.

The "lin-nicks" pronunciation is an anglicisation of Linus' .au file
where he pronounces it "Leen-noox". A change in vowels is typical of
anglicised words (or moving a name between any two languages, for that).
It preserves the original form with concessions for a more typical
combination of [American] English vowels.

The "line-uks" proponants generally use the rationale that because
"Linux" is derrived from Linus' name, it aught to be pronounced after
the american pronunciation of the name Linus.

There are numerous examples of both methods of transmission of a foreign
word into English.

AFAIK, Linus has not taken a stand for an "official" pronunciation.

The majority of people where I live seem to prefer "lin-nicks", which I
prefer. I've been exposed to numerous other languages and have lived
outside the U.S. for a few years, and to me it seems a more natural
pronunciation. Those with a stronger domestic background will probably
disagree.

If you wish to start a similar argument, ask if "Semper Fi" is
pronounced "Semper Fee" or "Semper Fie".

Quote:> What is the correct pronounciation of "Linux"?  Is it "Line-nucks" or
> "Lin-nu-s"?  I once heard a librarian in the US called it "Line-nuck-s"
> but heard other different pronounciation in other countries?
> English is not my first language.  Pls clarify.  Thanks.

 
 
 

A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by Mark » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>What is the correct pronounciation of "Linux"?  Is it "Line-nucks" or
>"Lin-nu-s"?  I once heard a librarian in the US called it "Line-nuck-s"
>but heard other different pronounciation in other countries?

I think it's "Lynn - ucks".
But "Windows-Hater" is more apropos.
 
 
 

A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by Edward_Hil » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00


The FAQ posted here every so often has a very good
description of the differences in the way it's said.
Also have a search on your distribution cd for
english.au with is a sound file of Linus saying
Linus how he pronounces it. It's usually used
to test sound card setup.

Ed

 
 
 

A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by Jedi Master Yo » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>The "line-uks" proponants generally use the rationale that because
>"Linux" is derrived from Linus' name, it aught to be pronounced after
>the american pronunciation of the name Linus.

The word 'UNIX' is another factor in favour of the long vowel. After all,
you don't call it 'Unnicks', do you?

Do you?

JMY

 
 
 

A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by Jim How » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00




: >
: >What is the correct pronounciation of "Linux"?  Is it "Line-nucks" or
: >"Lin-nu-s"?  I once heard a librarian in the US called it "Line-nuck-s"
: >but heard other different pronounciation in other countries?

On www.kernel.org, you'll find a directory SillySounds in the kernel
archives.  This includes a .au which says
 "Hello this is Linus Torvals and I pronounce Linux as Linux"

That should answer your question once and for all.

Jim

 
 
 

A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by sli.. » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00




>>The "line-uks" proponants generally use the rationale that because
>>"Linux" is derrived from Linus' name, it aught to be pronounced after
>>the american pronunciation of the name Linus.

>The word 'UNIX' is another factor in favour of the long vowel. After all,
>you don't call it 'Unnicks', do you?

>Do you?

No.  But I pronounce 'Minix' the same way I prounounce 'Linux', and since
Linus was writing a Minix clone when he named it 'Linux', it always seemed
like the correct thing to say.

Unless you say, 'Moo-nicks' for Minix.

Quote:>JMY

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A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by sli.. » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00






>: >
>: >What is the correct pronounciation of "Linux"?  Is it "Line-nucks" or
>: >"Lin-nu-s"?  I once heard a librarian in the US called it "Line-nuck-s"
>: >but heard other different pronounciation in other countries?

>On www.kernel.org, you'll find a directory SillySounds in the kernel
>archives.  This includes a .au which says
> "Hello this is Linus Torvals and I pronounce Linux as Linux"

>That should answer your question once and for all.

But, of course, you will get the radical "Lie-nicks" faction who will
claim that Linux is actually pronouncing "Lie-nicks", but his accent makes
it sound like "Leen-nucks", and that regardless of his accent, he is
really saying, "Lie-nicks".

Of course, these radical factioneers have never heard of Minix.

Quote:>Jim

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A: How to say "Linux"?

Post by John Bro » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00





>>On www.kernel.org, you'll find a directory SillySounds in the kernel
>>archives.  This includes a .au which says
>> "Hello this is Linus Torvals and I pronounce Linux as Linux"

>>That should answer your question once and for all.

Not really.  Plenty of proper names -- including "Linus" -- are
pronounced differently in different languages.  Why should Linux be any
different?

Quote:>But, of course, you will get the radical "Lie-nicks" faction who will
>claim that Linux is actually pronouncing "Lie-nicks", but his accent makes
>it sound like "Leen-nucks", and that regardless of his accent, he is
>really saying, "Lie-nicks".

Radical???  <snort>

Actually, what I would like to know is whether "Linus" rhymes with
"Linux" when Linus himself says them.  If it does, that would kind of
suggest "Lie-nicks" as the most appropriate English pronunciation.
Given that only a single letter changes, rhyming "Linux" with "Linus"
really does strike me as the natural way to go in English, and it
sounds better to me too.
--
John Brock

 
 
 

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