Very Computer

Just to Clarify things.
1.     The RPM seem to work in Command Line as well as in "Xterm"
        Terminal.
2.    But in Xwindows (Conrol_Panell) I can't Open up
        The Package Mngr "glint" or in KDE The "KPackage"
3.    I am also using  KDE (loged in as a different "user") and when
         I tried using the "KDE_Package Manager" I got the same error
4.    Also If I try to Open "glint" in Command line in Xterm
        I always receive the Error Message as follows:

  "rpm error: cannot open database in /var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm"

However I've checked it; and this Directory and the Files  exist.

5.    The Other Applications seem to work. However when I logout
     I Noticed some changes in the "Logout-Screen" regardin SVGA
        And a "Warning Message:
                    usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
                    does not exist.  entry deleted from Path.

         In the Xfree86 upgrades I didn't download these fonts,
        I've downloaded the 75dpi-fonts.  Since this is what I had before.

I hope some one can help me to straighten this mess out.
Thanx in advance.
Best regards
Snoopy ;-((

-- Krystian Bates
Blackstaff Graphics
eMail

Hi Krystian :-)
Thank you for your reply.
I followed your suggestion and the database seem to have bee updated but Unfortunatelly "glint'still doesn't work. I've red the HOWTO's and the ManPage again,  as well asthe (3) but I could'nt Find any refereces to this Problem.
The error message
        "rpm error: cannot open database in /var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm"
    seem to indicate some sort of a "Link" problem.
But I am to much of a Newbie to be able to find the solution.

At least RPM (in command line) works.  What I find strange is that the
KDE Pkg-Mngr gives the same error message as when I give the
command "glint &" in Xterm.
I am a Newbie, and still am very unconfortable working in command line; so I
just keep on hoping for some help in finding a solution.
Best regards
Snoopy


        Using RH 5.2.  I have Downloaded From RedHat and installed the following
        Updates.
                1.     Rpm 3.0.2-5 (i386)-upgrade
                 2.    XFree86 3.3.5-1.5x upgrades
        After Installation everything seemed to be Screwed up in Xwindows.
        Just to Clarify things.
        1.     The RPM seem to work in Command Line as well as in "Xterm"
                Terminal.
        2.    But in Xwindows (Conrol_Panell) I can't Open up
                The Package Mngr "glint" or in KDE The "KPackage"
        3.    I am also using  KDE (loged in as a different "user") and when
                 I tried using the "KDE_Package Manager" I got the same error
        4.    Also If I try to Open "glint" in Command line in Xterm
                I always receive the Error Message as follows:

          "rpm error: cannot open database in /var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm"

        However I've checked it; and this Directory and the Files  exist.

        5.    The Other Applications seem to work. However when I logout
             I Noticed some changes in the "Logout-Screen" regardin SVGA
                And a "Warning Message:
                            usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
                            does not exist.  entry deleted from Path.

                 In the Xfree86 upgrades I didn't download these fonts,
                I've downloaded the 75dpi-fonts.  Since this is what I had before.

        I hope some one can help me to straighten this mess out.
        Thanx in advance.
        Best regards
        Snoopy ;-((

    Try "rpm -i --rebuilddb"
    -- Krystian Bates
    Blackstaff Graphics
    eMail

I've posted another Post to the NG "linux.redhat.rpm". I have received some
useful info.  Take a look if you like.  In the meantime, I just have to
learn to use RPM in command mode.

Actually I am extremely disappointed With RedHat.  It seems, that they
begin to Copy MICROSOFT.  Creating upgrades, that Screws-Up Previous
Releases and completely ignoring to inform the Users.  Maybe they are
getting to be a bit to big??
 I sure as hell am going to be more careful in the future before buying
their releases and upgrades.
Best regards
Snoopy :-))

Cheers,
Dave

Hi Krystian :-))
Bingo!!!  Good News!!!!
I was able to Solve the Problem, and "glint"  Works OK.

I Re-Installed the oldpackage "rpm-2.5.5-5.2.i386.rpm",
and to be sure; after the Reinstall I also did the " rpm --rebuilddb"

For the benefit of Other Newbies Here is the Example:
        1.    rpm -Uvh --oldpackage rpm-2.5.5-5.2 <click Enter>
        2.    rpm --rebuilddb <click-Enter>
"glint" works now both in the Control-Panel, and in Comand-Mode.

While I am happy, that after 4-days of aggrevation the Problem is solved.
I am OUTRAGED with the *y REDHAT People.!!!
They have had the  Goddamn Rpm-3.0.2-5x.i386.rpm. listed as an Udate and Fix
for RH 5.2. since July.  I am sure, that by now they are quite aware, that
this Upgrade will disable the "glint-Package-Manager" as well a the KDE
"Package-manager", and as Such;
Will Create all kinds of Nightmares to Newbies coming to Linux.

I've also been watching the RH News Groups (including linux.redhat.rpm) and
have not seen Any-Inputs from the RH-People.
I guess they think, that they are to Big to care about
"Good-Public-Relations. They sure seem to behave just like MICROSOFT.

I bought the 5.2 Distribution from RH earlier this year only to find a few
weeks later the 6.x was released, with not just the Install-Guide, but also
a Users-Guide.  But to get 6.x I would have had to pay full Price.
Even Microsoft hasn't pulled a stunt like this.  And this latest Garbage
Experience really put the lid on it.  As far as I am concerned they can
shove their Upgrades etc..  I will be a long time before I consider spending
any money for Their Prodocts.  I will also discourage any one from doing so
.

Best Regards
Snoopy ;-((


        Using RH 5.2.  I have Downloaded From RedHat and installed the following
        Updates.
                1.     Rpm 3.0.2-5 (i386)-upgrade
                 2.    XFree86 3.3.5-1.5x upgrades
        After Installation everything seemed to be Screwed up in Xwindows.
        Just to Clarify things.
        1.     The RPM seem to work in Command Line as well as in "Xterm"
                Terminal.
        2.    But in Xwindows (Conrol_Panell) I can't Open up
                The Package Mngr "glint" or in KDE The "KPackage"
        3.    I am also using  KDE (loged in as a different "user") and when
                 I tried using the "KDE_Package Manager" I got the same error
        4.    Also If I try to Open "glint" in Command line in Xterm
                I always receive the Error Message as follows:

          "rpm error: cannot open database in /var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm"

        However I've checked it; and this Directory and the Files  exist.

        5.    The Other Applications seem to work. However when I logout
             I Noticed some changes in the "Logout-Screen" regardin SVGA
                And a "Warning Message:
                            usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
                            does not exist.  entry deleted from Path.

                 In the Xfree86 upgrades I didn't download these fonts,
                I've downloaded the 75dpi-fonts.  Since this is what I had before.

        I hope some one can help me to straighten this mess out.
        Thanx in advance.
        Best regards
        Snoopy ;-((

    Try "rpm -i --rebuilddb"
    -- Krystian Bates
    Blackstaff Graphics
    eMail

Quote:> Your reply seem indicate, that I shouldn't
follow some earlier
> reccomendation by some one to upgrade from RH
5.2 to 6.x

> I've posted another Post to the NG

Quote:> useful info.  Take a look if you like.  In the

Quote:> learn to use RPM in command mode.

> Actually I am extremely disappointed With

Quote:> begin to Copy MICROSOFT.  Creating upgrades,

Quote:> Releases and completely ignoring to inform the

Quote:> getting to be a bit to big??
>  I sure as hell am going to be more careful in

Quote:> >>KDE Pkg-Mngr gives the same error message as
when I give the
> >>command "glint &" in Xterm.

> >Hi
> >I have a similar problem in RH6.0, when

Quote:> >GnoRPM.  Installing from an xterm is ok but

Quote:

> >Cheers,
> >Dave

In article <_shX3.97365

Quote:> Your reply seem indicate, that I shouldn't
follow some earlier
> reccomendation by some one to upgrade from RH
5.2 to 6.x

> I've posted another Post to the NG

Quote:> useful info.  Take a look if you like.  In the

Quote:> learn to use RPM in command mode.

> Actually I am extremely disappointed With

Quote:> begin to Copy MICROSOFT.  Creating upgrades,

Quote:> Releases and completely ignoring to inform the

Quote:> getting to be a bit to big??
>  I sure as hell am going to be more careful in

Quote:> >>KDE Pkg-Mngr gives the same error message as
when I give the
> >>command "glint &" in Xterm.

> >Hi
> >I have a similar problem in RH6.0, when

Quote:> >GnoRPM.  Installing from an xterm is ok but

Quote:

> >Cheers,
> >Dave

1- Glint doesn't work with RPM 3.0.X, you must use it on the command line
or get GnoRPM. It's not RedHat's fault if you're using an old version (5.2).
BTW, I use 5.1.

2- Newbies allways use the latest and greatest version (6.1). They're too
lame to maintain something up to date without breaking anything :)

Quote:> I guess they think, that they are to Big to care about
> "Good-Public-Relations. They sure seem to behave just like MICROSOFT.

Quote:> I bought the 5.2 Distribution from RH earlier this year only to find a
> few weeks later the 6.x was released, with not just the Install-Guide, but
> also a Users-Guide.  But to get 6.x I would have had to pay full Price.

Quote:> Even Microsoft hasn't pulled a stunt like this.  And this latest Garbage
> Experience really put the lid on it.  As far as I am concerned they can
> shove their Upgrades etc..  I will be a long time before I consider
> spending any money for Their Prodocts.  I will also discourage any one from doing
> so.

--
Frdric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niteri-RJ Brasil]

Quote:> If you use Red Hat 5.2, and are very content with it, it is a very good build.
> Red Hat's managers have put updates into an update directory for quite a long
> time. If there is a known security problem, for instance, they'll put the
> updated rpm in the update directory. This directory should be expected to
> contain rpms that fix known problems, not rpms that break things. One of the

Maybe RedHat should say that it breaks Glint, only this. But if you
upgrade to a new kernel (2.2 series), it'll break A LOT of applications,
and you'll have to update VARIOUS packages. It's RedHat's fault?

Quote:> updates that was put into the 5.2 update directory was RPM 3.x. A normal person
> would expect that to be a necessary update, and so might be inclined to load
> it. However, if you do load it, you break both Glint, and the Kpackage that
> comes with 5.2. There is no mention of this, until after you've loaded it, when
> you try to use Glint/Kpackage, then they don't work.

Quote:> This is definitly a problem that the Red Hat management, and the Red Hat RPM
> Managers should be aware of, and should attempt to keep from happening again.

I'm not trying to be mad, but it's definitely not good to say bad things
about RedHat because of this.

Now me:

RedHat only supports their latest release (6.1). You never see updates
for 5.1, 5.2, or 6.0. Oh, you see, a new RPM that breaks Glint. I really
would like to see more updates (or the earlier releases are fine?).

RedHat should advice you if an update can break something.

Try GnoRPM and Purp. They're better than Glint.

--
Frdric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niteri-RJ Brasil]

Quote:>> If you use Red Hat 5.2, and are very content with it, it is a very good
build.
>> Red Hat's managers have put updates into an update directory for quite a
long
>> time. If there is a known security problem, for instance, they'll put the
>> updated rpm in the update directory. This directory should be expected to
>> contain rpms that fix known problems, not rpms that break things. One of

Quote:

>And you want what? A new Glint that works with RPM 3.0.X? You can just use

Quote:>GnoRPM. It's better, it's written in C, and you don't need RPM to use it.
>It's linked with the RPM lib.

>Maybe RedHat should say that it breaks Glint, only this. But if you
>upgrade to a new kernel (2.2 series), it'll break A LOT of applications,
>and you'll have to update VARIOUS packages. It's RedHat's fault?

Quote:

>> updates that was put into the 5.2 update directory was RPM 3.x. A normal
person
>> would expect that to be a necessary update, and so might be inclined to
load
>> it. However, if you do load it, you break both Glint, and the Kpackage
that
>> comes with 5.2. There is no mention of this, until after you've loaded
it, when
>> you try to use Glint/Kpackage, then they don't work.

>A normal person will try other frontends if it fail after an upgrade.

This is the most Idiotic statements I've heard for a Long-Time!!!!
And If I saw it earlier I would not have seen you fit for a response.
So as the situation demands I conclude the discussion

Snoopy
(
Glint

Quote:>isn't developed anymore. RedHat 6.X only ships with GnoRPM. Until you get
>it to work, why not learn how to use RPM in the command line? It's very
>easy for simple operations, like those that are executed by Glint.

>> This is definitly a problem that the Red Hat management, and the Red Hat RPM
>> Managers should be aware of, and should attempt to keep from happening again.

>No, this is a problem of Glint. RPM 3.0.X is a real improvment. The
>database is incompatible

Seriously though, I am somewhat suprised, that a couple people indicated,
that I was unreasonable in criticising RH.  I could understand this but
their lack of Empathy regardin the Ignorance and Needs of the Newbies is
surprising.
Since I have not been Flamed by Eric Raymond and some other Gurus I couldn't
have been so bad.
So I guess there is hope for me yet.
Best regards
Snoopy :-))

Quote:> Saying it might not be good, But I bought Their Commercial-Product and as a
> Custumer it is my Right and not a Privilege to Express a VALID
> dissatisfaction.  The difference between a "Cheap-* and a Call-Girl" is
> Only the Price.

Quote:> Let me Repeat myself:
> An Upgrade should Fix Things! Not*Them Up.!!  I've Bought The
> Commercial RH-5.2 form them.  And the "RPM 3.0x" is listed in their
> Recommended 5.2 Updates. Nothing is said about destroying
> their  supplied "Own-Application" (glint).  I hate Microsoft and their
> Products,  but even they have the decency (most of the time) to inform
> people if their Udates makes their previous prodocuts incompatible.

Quote:> YES_YES_YES It's their fault  and not the Customer's.  Any commercial
> enterprise who fails to recognize such will definatelly pay the well
> deserved Price.  For you information, I am not talking about a new kernel
> but an Aplication Fix.

Quote:> Are you Joking???
> What does the degree of knowledge have anything to do with normalcy or
> Intelligence.  An Intelligent person will try "other-frontends" if he/she
> knows how.  Above all He/She expects a Fix to be what the concept
> represents.  Their is another alternative which an ABNORMAL may use.  It's
> is to seek assistance from those who Know.   Of course when a person applies
> such technique then he/she
> is attains the designation of being Normal also.

Quote:> This is the most Idiotic statements I've heard for a Long-Time!!!!

Quote:> And If I saw it earlier I would not have seen you fit for a response.

Quote:> So as the situation demands I conclude the discussion

BTW, next time try to post using your real name. People seem to like
that (WTF is Snoopy? Charlie Brown's dog?).

Peace!!!

--
Frdric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niteri-RJ Brasil]