Hi frederic :-))
I am responding to both of your Posts. I have no intention of creating a
Flame War with you, since You must have misunderstood my statements or
did't pay attention in reading them.
I will try and clarify a few things in my responses:
>> Putting my comments at the top, since they are pretty general.
>> Frederic, I think you missed the point of what Snoopy was saying. I had
>> same problem, and I'm no longer a newbie.
>No, I didn't missed. I can agree that it's a bad to release a new version
>that break something, but saying that RedHat is like Microsoft etc isn't
Saying it might not be good, But I bought Their Commercial-Product and as a
Custumer it is my Right and not a Privilege to Express a VALID
dissatisfaction. The difference between a "Cheap-* and a Call-Girl" is
Only the Price.
Quote:>> If you use Red Hat 5.2, and are very content with it, it is a very good
>> Red Hat's managers have put updates into an update directory for quite a
>> time. If there is a known security problem, for instance, they'll put the
>> updated rpm in the update directory. This directory should be expected to
>> contain rpms that fix known problems, not rpms that break things. One of
>And you want what? A new Glint that works with RPM 3.0.X? You can just use
Let me Repeat myself:
An Upgrade should Fix Things! Not*Them Up.!! I've Bought The
Commercial RH-5.2 form them. And the "RPM 3.0x" is listed in their
Recommended 5.2 Updates. Nothing is said about destroying
their supplied "Own-Application" (glint). I hate Microsoft and their
Products, but even they have the decency (most of the time) to inform
people if their Udates makes their previous prodocuts incompatible.
>GnoRPM. It's better, it's written in C, and you don't need RPM to use it.
>It's linked with the RPM lib.
>Maybe RedHat should say that it breaks Glint, only this. But if you
>upgrade to a new kernel (2.2 series), it'll break A LOT of applications,
>and you'll have to update VARIOUS packages. It's RedHat's fault?
YES_YES_YES It's their fault and not the Customer's. Any commercial
enterprise who fails to recognize such will definatelly pay the well
deserved Price. For you information, I am not talking about a new kernel
but an Aplication Fix.
>> updates that was put into the 5.2 update directory was RPM 3.x. A normal
>> would expect that to be a necessary update, and so might be inclined to
>> it. However, if you do load it, you break both Glint, and the Kpackage
>> comes with 5.2. There is no mention of this, until after you've loaded
>> you try to use Glint/Kpackage, then they don't work.
>A normal person will try other frontends if it fail after an upgrade.
Are you Joking???
What does the degree of knowledge have anything to do with normalcy or
Intelligence. An Intelligent person will try "other-frontends" if he/she
knows how. Above all He/She expects a Fix to be what the concept
represents. Their is another alternative which an ABNORMAL may use. It's
is to seek assistance from those who Know. Of course when a person applies
such technique then he/she
is attains the designation of being Normal also.
This is the most Idiotic statements I've heard for a Long-Time!!!!
And If I saw it earlier I would not have seen you fit for a response.
So as the situation demands I conclude the discussion
>isn't developed anymore. RedHat 6.X only ships with GnoRPM. Until you get
>it to work, why not learn how to use RPM in the command line? It's very
>easy for simple operations, like those that are executed by Glint.
>> This is definitly a problem that the Red Hat management, and the Red Hat RPM
>> Managers should be aware of, and should attempt to keep from happening again.
>No, this is a problem of Glint. RPM 3.0.X is a real improvment. The
>database is incompatible
(you need --rebuildb), and Glint don't
>understand the new format.
>I'm not trying to be mad, but it's definitely not good to say bad things
>about RedHat because of this.
>RedHat only supports their latest release (6.1). You never see updates
>for 5.1, 5.2, or 6.0. Oh, you see, a new RPM that breaks Glint. I really
>would like to see more updates (or the earlier releases are fine?).
>RedHat should advice you if an update can break something.
>Try GnoRPM and Purp. They're better than Glint.
>Frdric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niteri-RJ Brasil]