Dumb serial terminal

Dumb serial terminal

Post by Grant Edwar » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:14:24




> I've about concluded that minicom won't let me emulate a dumb
> terminal.  (I'm trying to set up a Cisco 678 via the
> administrative serial port.)

It should work.  By default, minicom trys to do a bunch of
modem stuff.  Start it with the "-o" flag to get it to stop
trying to talk to a modem.

In general, I prefer ckermit over minicom:

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html

Quote:> Of course, it may just be that I Don't Get It.

> Alternately, anyone have a reasonable _hyperterm_ replacement
> suggestion?

I'd recommend ckermit, but it works far too reliably to be
considered a hyperterm replacement.  ;)

Quote:> I tried to compile Seyon but there seem to be some
> "issues" with it and Mandrake 8.0.

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Dumb serial terminal

Post by Grant Edwar » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:17:59




>> I've about concluded that minicom won't let me emulate a dumb
>> terminal.  (I'm trying to set up a Cisco 678 via the
>> administrative serial port.)

> It should work.  By default, minicom trys to do a bunch of
> modem stuff.  Start it with the "-o" flag to get it to stop
> trying to talk to a modem.

> In general, I prefer ckermit over minicom:

>   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
>   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html

And you may or may not have "cu" on your system (it's usually
part of a "uucp" package).

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Dumb serial terminal

Post by D. C. Session » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 05:30:28


I've about concluded that minicom won't let me emulate a dumb
terminal.  (I'm trying to set up a Cisco 678 via the administrative
serial port.)  Of course, it may just be that I Don't Get It.

Alternately, anyone have a reasonable _hyperterm_ replacement
suggestion?  I tried to compile Seyon but there seem to be some
"issues" with it and Mandrake 8.0.

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Dumb serial terminal

Post by Chris Freema » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:34:26


easiest way to do this by cu'ing direclty to the port eg 'cu -l ttyS0'
if you are using RH, just install the uucp rpm to install cu.

man cu, tells you how to specify the speed, etc.



> I've about concluded that minicom won't let me emulate a dumb
> terminal.  (I'm trying to set up a Cisco 678 via the administrative
> serial port.)  Of course, it may just be that I Don't Get It.

> Alternately, anyone have a reasonable _hyperterm_ replacement
> suggestion?  I tried to compile Seyon but there seem to be some
> "issues" with it and Mandrake 8.0.

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Dumb serial terminal

Post by D. C. Session » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:03:44



Quote:> I'd recommend ckermit, but it works far too reliably to be
> considered a hyperterm replacement.  ;)

I remember Columbia Kermit fondly, but gcc 2.96 barfs when
I try to compile it:

ckcnet.c: In function `http_date':
ckcnet.c:8696: storage size of `t_tm' isn't known
ckcnet.c:8707: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
ckcnet.c: In function `http_now':
ckcnet.c:8726: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
make[2]: *** [ckcnet.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dcs/src/ckermit'
make[1]: *** [linuxa] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dcs/src/ckermit'
make: *** [linux] Error 2

Right now I'm not sure I want to hack around in it trying to find
the problem.

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Dumb serial terminal

Post by Grant Edwar » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:27:46




>> I'd recommend ckermit, but it works far too reliably to be
>> considered a hyperterm replacement.  ;)

>I remember Columbia Kermit fondly, but gcc 2.96 barfs when
>I try to compile it:

>ckcnet.c: In function `http_date':
>ckcnet.c:8696: storage size of `t_tm' isn't known
>ckcnet.c:8707: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
>ckcnet.c: In function `http_now':
>ckcnet.c:8726: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
>make[2]: *** [ckcnet.o] Error 1
>make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dcs/src/ckermit'
>make[1]: *** [linuxa] Error 2
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dcs/src/ckermit'
>make: *** [linux] Error 2

>Right now I'm not sure I want to hack around in it trying to find
>the problem.

It compiles fine under 2.95.x.  I'd ditch "2.96".

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Dumb serial terminal

Post by Dave Alle » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:47:39


Quote:>> I'd recommend ckermit, but it works far too reliably to be
>> considered a hyperterm replacement.  ;)
> I remember Columbia Kermit fondly, but gcc 2.96 barfs when
> I try to compile it:

The latest kermit from Columbia compiles fine with the gcc 2.96-81
as included in RH 7.1.

I kept an older version of kermit squirreled away but could not get
it to compile. Saw a new version had been released and it went fine.

Dave

 
 
 

Dumb serial terminal

Post by Frank da Cr » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 23:35:20





:
: > I'd recommend ckermit, but it works far too reliably to be
: > considered a hyperterm replacement.  ;)
:
: I remember Columbia Kermit fondly, but gcc 2.96 barfs when
: I try to compile it:
:
: ckcnet.c: In function `http_date':
: ckcnet.c:8696: storage size of `t_tm' isn't known
:
Linux tends to change out from under C-Kermit and every other application.
C-Kermit 7.0 built just fun with the gcc and Linux headers and libs that
were current at the time.  Which tar file are you using, and which makefile
target?

C-Kermit has to change with Linux, and it does.  The current 8.0 test version
builds just fine with "make linux" or "make redhat71" (the latter if you have
Red Hat 7.1, obviously).

: Right now I'm not sure I want to hack around in it trying to find
: the problem.
:
YOu don't have to hack around anything.  On the C-Kermit 7.0 page you'll find
both prebuilt binaries:

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html#binlist

and install packages, including RPMs for Linux:

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html#packages

- Frank

 
 
 

1. need dumb serial terminal program

I need a nice dumb serial terminal program.  I need it to

 * Transmit what I type
 * Display what it receives
 * Display the states of RTS, CTS, DSR, DTR, CD
 * Allow me to change RTS and DTR.  I

I don't need any sort of file transfer, modem handling,
terminal emulation, flow-control, or anything else.

I could use Kermit, but ckermit 1.9.2 won't build under Linux
(at least not under a remotely modern Linux).  I assume it
builds under the old libc and not under glibc.  I don't really
have the time/desire to go digging thorugh Kemrit source code
to figure out why.

Aren't there any nice, stupid, terminal programs around?

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