Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Matthew » Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:42:17



Well, anyone?......any thoughts????

Is linux/mandrake any good?
AND is there something wrong with RH7 or is it just me?
I have had version 5.2 through to 7. thats when the troubles started....now
i,m checking out this so called MDK

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Andrew Puruggan » Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:58:23


[ Well, anyone?......any thoughts????

[ Is linux/mandrake any good?
[ AND is there something wrong with RH7 or is it just me?
[ I have had version 5.2 through to 7. thats when the troubles started....now
[ i,m checking out this so called MDK

mandrake is easy enough & friendly enough. I frequented mandrakeuser.org
whenever I was having trouble

But you better describe to us what sort of troubles you're having,
otherwise you could be changing distros for the wrong reasons

--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Sinner from the Prair » Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:44:34



> Well, anyone?......any thoughts????
> Is linux/mandrake any good?

For me, yes. I've tried 7.0, 7.02, 7.1, 7.2beta, 7.2 and it's always
have been a nice experience.

Easy to install, "RedHat-friendly"... but more polished (I think).

Quote:> AND is there something wrong with RH7 or is it just me?

Looks that they left some "undesired features" that never shouldn't have
gone with a non-beta release. But nearly all X.0 RedHats have been a
little "crincky".

Quote:> I have had version 5.2 through to 7. thats when the troubles started....now
> i,m checking out this so called MDK

Try it. You will not be disapointed. Check their web site for a tutorial
on the installation process (quite simple, even the "expert mode" is
quite simple.... so I install it with expert mode). Lots of stuff
greatly configured (got a CD-RW? you'll love it then). It cames with
some USB support (they kernel has been patched woth usb-backport patch).

Also, try the Mandrake Users Webring for specific help:
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/ring.html or the newsgroup

Salut,
Sinner
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Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Stanislaw Flatt » Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:17:15



> Well, anyone?......any thoughts????

> Is linux/mandrake any good?

Hi there!
It's 05:15 in the morning so the "thoughts?????" are not yet awake.
As to your second question - good for WHAT????
If you sit by single user box and have it perform the functions that you need,
that is why you invested in computer for starters, right???
If you want to chase adverti*ts wars of the kind "I am the best
OS/Distro/Software" and try them all
then you have a lifetime project.

But either way Linux is fun.

--
Stanislaw
Linux counter No.162760
Slak user from Ulladulla.

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Richard Kimbe » Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:35:34



> Well, anyone?......any thoughts????

> Is linux/mandrake any good?
> AND is there something wrong with RH7 or is it just me?
> I have had version 5.2 through to 7. thats when the troubles
> started....now i,m checking out this so called MDK

Ummm, well it depends how much you want to configure it to your own
satisfaction, and whether you want it to do stuff you didn't ask it to do,
etc.  In short it depends on whether you are happy with it "as is".

I started with Mand 7.0 and liked it initiially.  It gave me no install
problems.  But the more I use it, the more I get frustrated with it.  It's
very hard to find out where specific config files are stored and it doesn't
seem to follow the basic "theory" of linux or X (i.e. no book you buy will
tell you how it works).  It also seems to put files in different places in
different versions.

In Mand 7.2, which I've just upgraded to, cron seems to be set to do a
whole load of stuff that's not clear to me.  The problem with this is that
when I was downloading a file from the net, it kicked in with a massive use
of disk and took over the machine so that the download was aborted.  This
is not nice.  I've disabled it all.  I hope.

So.  It just depends on what you want to do.  It's fine if you have a very
fast machine with lots of RAM and you just want to use KDE as it gets
installed.  ... And if your printer works OK.

Otherwise, I'd think again.  I'm considering making a change.  But I don't
know what to.

- Richard.
--
Richard Kimber

http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Garry Knigh » Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:51:37




> In Mand 7.2, which I've just upgraded to, cron seems to be set to do a
>  whole load of stuff that's not clear to me.  The problem with this is
> that  when I was downloading a file from the net, it kicked in with a
> massive use  of disk and took over the machine so that the download
> was aborted.  This  is not nice.  I've disabled it all.  I hope.

In the default installation 7.2 runs anacron by default. As long as
your machine is on all the time it behaves pretty much exactly like
cron. However, if the PC's turned off when a cron job is scheduled to
run, anacron runs the job at the next earliest opportunity, i.e.
shortly after you've turned the PC back on.

anacron uses the configuration file /etc/anacrontab so if you've
disabled jobs in /etc/crontab you might find that they run anyway.

The anacrontab file has a different layout to crontab. Do a 'man
anacron' and 'man anacrontab' for details.

--
Garry Knight

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Matthew » Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:51:02


hello,
Re: RH 7.0 .
I am fairly new to linux ,
I had been learning about samba and swat,set up a small network of 8 computers
win98/winntWS/Linux which was running fine,,
just simple file and printer sharing on a "share" level sec.
.An update from RH6 to RH 6.2  went fine.
Then later after updating from RH6.2 to RH 7 ,,, Samba wont start?, Swat can,t be
connected to?All the conf. files in the /etc are either changed or moved or
renamed?
Everytime I  reconfigured the .conf files through the Gnome Samba (Gnomba),,
Well it ,,after saving them ,, it doesn,t work,, I reopen them and the changes i
made are not saved? I went round in circles like that,,,,,,,,,,


> [ Well, anyone?......any thoughts????

> [ Is linux/mandrake any good?
> [ AND is there something wrong with RH7 or is it just me?
> [ I have had version 5.2 through to 7. thats when the troubles started....now
> [ i,m checking out this so called MDK

> mandrake is easy enough & friendly enough. I frequented mandrakeuser.org
> whenever I was having trouble

> But you better describe to us what sort of troubles you're having,
> otherwise you could be changing distros for the wrong reasons

> --
> jazz
> Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Matthew » Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:57:36


Hello
Can you tell me how you disabled all the cron jobs in Mandrake?
This is what I have been having trouble with also,machine taken over while
there are
endless cron jobs. While trying to configure stuff in Linuxconf, just when you
do something-bang , off it goes, drives my hdd like a *y lawnmower -
whats so bad that it needs to do it so much>? thats what i ask.

"In Mand 7.2, which I've just upgraded to, cron seems to be set to do a
whole load of stuff that's not clear to me.  The problem with this is that
when I was downloading a file from the net, it kicked in with a massive use
of disk and took over the machine so that the download was aborted.  This
is not nice.  I've disabled it all.  I hope."

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by jes.. » Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:28:48



:> Is linux/mandrake any good?
: For me, yes. I've tried 7.0, 7.02, 7.1, 7.2beta, 7.2 and it's always
: have been a nice experience.

As a counter opinion, I wasn't all *that* fond of 7.0 and 7.2 came right
the hell off the machine I tried it on.

I'm used to having Linux install "my way", and be able to configure it
"my way" very quickly.  Mandrake fought me too much on this, and I finally
just said "F this" and deleted the whole thing.

--

           SEX           *           UNIX

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by mpulli » Sun, 24 Dec 2000 11:53:28




>:> Is linux/mandrake any good?
>: For me, yes. I've tried 7.0, 7.02, 7.1,

7.2beta, 7.2 and it's always
Quote:>: have been a nice experience.

>As a counter opinion, I wasn't all *that*

fond of 7.0 and 7.2 came right
the hell off the machine I tried it on.

Now, as a counter counter opinion, I thought
Mandrake 7.2 was the best of the 9 distros I've
tried so far.

It installed perfectly with no weird tweaking
and the internet connection worked right away.
The CD player worked right off, and the printer.
All I had to do was rpm my favorite text-mode
browser, mail reader, news reader, and fetchmail
and I was all set. 7.2 is heavy on KDE, which
is in line with what the general public wants,
but you can customize it easily enough.

Just another question of personal tastes.

MP

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by jes.. » Mon, 25 Dec 2000 10:08:51


: It installed perfectly with no weird tweaking

My key problem was "installed perfectly" -> I guess if I wanted to pretend
I was running windows and do it "their way" then yes, I could say it
installed perfectly :)

But they successfuly obfuscated things that I wanted to do.  I wanted
to do it My Way, which so far, every other version of every other distro
i've ever tried managed to do (ok, so RH7 i use the text installer :P) ->
tho sad to say, this push to "bring Linux to the common man" is starting
to make the installer more and more windows-like.

--

           SEX           *           UNIX

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by Bit Twist » Mon, 25 Dec 2000 10:12:13





>: It installed perfectly with no weird tweaking

>My key problem was "installed perfectly" -> I guess if I wanted to pretend
>I was running windows and do it "their way" then yes, I could say it
>installed perfectly :)

>But they successfuly obfuscated things that I wanted to do.  I wanted
>to do it My Way, which so far, every other version of every other distro
>i've ever tried managed to do (ok, so RH7 i use the text installer :P) ->
>tho sad to say, this push to "bring Linux to the common man" is starting
>to make the installer more and more windows-like.

        Are you saying you wanted to pick what was to be loaded?
        If that was the case, picking custome or expert allows to
        to make it your way.
 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by dom » Tue, 26 Dec 2000 03:22:16


Quote:> -> tho sad to say, this push to "bring Linux to the common man" is
> starting to make the installer more and more windows-like.    

And what's wrong with that? If you want linux to succeed on a wide scale  
 it HAS TO get easier to install and configure for the 'common man' as you
say. It is funny how the instinct to take shots at microsoft also
translates into taking potshots at anything that even remotely resembles
their OS.

Once the newbie learns the ins and outs of linux, he or she can then tweak
it how they want. Isn't that the beauty of the thing?

 
 
 

Is Linux/Mandrake good?

Post by jes.. » Thu, 28 Dec 2000 03:43:18


: And what's wrong with that? If you want linux to succeed on a wide scale  

Who said I want it to "succeed on a wide scale"?  All that means is that
it is going to look more and more like the OS's that I dislike.  The more
an OS appeals to the "common man", the less it tends to appeal to me.

For years people have said, "The good thing about Linux tho, is that
you don't *have* to use that crap" -> but it is starting to become more
and more the case that you *do*.  Yuck.  If I wanted MS Windows, I
already know where to get it, thanks.

This is like the age old story of the hero who defeated his enemy only
to realize that he himself has become the same as his enemy.

:  it HAS TO get easier to install and configure for the 'common man' as you
: say. It is funny how the instinct to take shots at microsoft also

Why must it be easier to install & ocnfiugre for the "common man"?
Who cares?  They already have many OS's to choose from.

: Once the newbie learns the ins and outs of linux, he or she can then tweak
: it how they want. Isn't that the beauty of the thing?

When it takes me several hours to de-windowsify a distribution, that's
most definitely *not* a good thing.

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# script to deny connections from Korea
#
echo "Blocking S. Korea"
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 202.6.95.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 202.14.103.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 202.14.165.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
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/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 202.20.84.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 202.20.86.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0
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/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 202.30.0.0/15 -d 0.0.0.0/0
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 203.224.0.0/11 -d 0.0.0.0/0
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/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 210.96.0.0/11 -d 0.0.0.0/0
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/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 211.104.0.0/13 -d 0.0.0.0/0
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/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 211.176.0.0/12 -d 0.0.0.0/0
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 211.192.0.0/12 -d 0.0.0.0/0
#
# script to deny access from at least a part of China Telecom
#
echo "Blocking part of China Telecom"
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s  61.128.0.0/9 -d 0.0.0.0/0
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 202.96.0.0/11 -d 0.0.0.0/0
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s 210.72.0.0/13 -d 0.0.0.0/0
#
# script to deny access to my SMTP port
#
echo "Blocking and logging access to port 25, SMTP"
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p TCP -l -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 25
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p UDP -l -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 25
#
# script to deny and log probes on known trojan ports
#
echo "Blocking and logging probes on known trojan ports, 12345, 31337"
# Netbus
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p TCP -l -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 12345
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p UDP -l -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 12345
# Back Orifice
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p TCP -l -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 31337
/sbin/ipchains -A input -j DENY -p UDP -l -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 31337

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