Linux on Cyrix DLC's - what's the word?

Linux on Cyrix DLC's - what's the word?

Post by Dan Newcom » Wed, 02 Feb 1994 03:45:53



I am seriously thinking about getting a Cyrix DLC (probably a 40Mhz) and
am looking for opinions from Linux users that have them.

Do they give a good improvement?  most of the stuff I read gives them about
75% of the speed of a DX at the same Mhz.  I can live with that better than I
can spending $500+ on a 486DX.

I'd probably also get a DLC "aware" motherboard for the cache capabilities,
probably one with a 486 slot for later upgrades.  Can Linux use the cache on
the DLC?  I've seen people asking about it, but have yet to see an answer.

Any other info (praise/warnings to DLC's etc) would be great!!!
    -Dan
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Linux on Cyrix DLC's - what's the word?

Post by Larry Doolitt » Wed, 02 Feb 1994 07:43:46



he is the source of the following info.
The cache-enabling patch to the Kernel should be on
sunsite somewhere.

The Cyrix 486DLC/40
-------------------
        I recently installed this 486 clone in my motherboard.  You
shouldn't do this if you do not have a "REAL" DLC motherboard.  My
system is now around twice as fast as before.  Floating point with
a Cyrix 387 is better than if you have some other brand FPU but most
other FPU's will still work.  Almost everything in my system is faster
now, even disk intensive tasks (the CPU does interrupts faster and all
I/O under Linux is interrupt driven).  

        I have one single problem.  When running programs that
access the sound driver, especially the FM synthesizer, I get
"Floating point exception" once in awhile.  I cannot play ANY midi
files now.  I am thinking (and hoping) this is some obscure but in
either the sound driver or my sound card (how, I don't know).

        But, that is a very minor point.  This is a highly recommended
upgrade.  Here are a few tips:

* it is fastest if you use a "Cyrix" 387 with it.  The Cyrix-Cyrix combo
  is noticeably faster than if you use another brand FPU.  Some other
  brand FPU's have actually been reported to run SLOWER after the
  upgrade (The IIT's from what I remember).
* You MUST have DLC compliant bios to get any decent speed.  If you have
  DLC bios, there will be an advanced option for turning on the 486's
  internal cache.  If you have a 386 currently on board, that option will
  be disabled but you should be able to see it.
* You MUST have cache-coherency circuits in your motherboard to get any
  kind of speed.

 
 
 

Linux on Cyrix DLC's - what's the word?

Post by gran.. » Sun, 06 Feb 1994 20:21:59


:         I have one single problem.  When running programs that
: access the sound driver, especially the FM synthesizer, I get
: "Floating point exception" once in awhile.  I cannot play ANY midi
: files now.  I am thinking (and hoping) this is some obscure but in
: either the sound driver or my sound card (how, I don't know).

:         But, that is a very minor point.  This is a highly recommended
: upgrade.  Here are a few tips:

: * it is fastest if you use a "Cyrix" 387 with it.  The Cyrix-Cyrix combo
:   is noticeably faster than if you use another brand FPU.  Some other
:   brand FPU's have actually been reported to run SLOWER after the
:   upgrade (The IIT's from what I remember).

I run a Texas Instruments 486DLC with an IIT 487DLC.  It does not give me
any errors at all. When I was using a ULSI 387 though, the machine would
hang if I started doing intense numeric coprocessor work.  I think this is
because the 387 is not capable of working with the internal 486DLC cache
because it can do direct writes to memory.

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1. Cyrix DLC-40 and Linux

        One of the machines we are using in a network is having problems
with Linux...  On other machines Linux has not given us a problem..
However, on this machine, strange, bizarre crashes occur fairly regularly.
Usually during long, arduous compiles.  I've been in and out that
machine checking for address and interrupt conflicts or anything that
might cause it to crash.  The only difference I can see is that is a
Cyrix 486DLC processor vs. an Intel.  A math coprocessor is also present.
It has 2 VESA local bus slots with a VESA IDE card, a 3COM 503 ethernet
adaptor, USRobotics Sporster 14.4, SoundBlaster, Trident SVGA adaptor,
and a MicroSoft serial mouse.   We are running Slackware dist. Linux pl14.

The errors that it yields are quite bizarre, as i have said.  When it does
lock, half the time it just locks with no outward message.  Occasionally,
the kernel spits out some crazy paging fault error, but most of the time
(as it crashes usually while doing a heavy duty compile) GCC reports
an internal compiler error.  Of course when this happens the compile
can be restarted (after REBOOT of course) and it will continue where it
left off, with no problems until the next crash.   It doesn't crash
in DOS.. (well anymore than any other computer crashes in DOS :)  )
On any of the Intel, non-local bus machines I have YET to have Linux
crash on me for any reason, save one.  One of the machines has an
Always IN-2000 adapter and that driver does not handle swapping
correctly (thus I don't use one)..  

I have ONE other guess that I haven't tried yet.  And that has to do
with the compilation of the kernel..  There is an option for 486
optimizations.  Is it necessary to DISABLE this for Cyrix's?  I realize
they are not TRUE 486's and perhaps this is causing the problem?  D'ya
think?   ANy help or insight would be appreciated...  Just drop me a
note..  Thanks

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