Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001

Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001

Post by Steve Wither » Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:54:31



From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration or
they won't work.

Clamping down on the casual piracy that most of the world's Windows PC
rely upon. Enforcing the monopoly.

Go Linux!

 
 
 

Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001

Post by OpenMin » Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:40:16


How would this work?

Presumably one would receive a number to 'activate' the software... armed
with this a bootlegger could make copies.  Or do they have another scheme?

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Quote:> From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration or
> they won't work.

> Clamping down on the casual piracy that most of the world's Windows PC
> rely upon. Enforcing the monopoly.

> Go Linux!

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Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001

Post by Davi » Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:36:14



> From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration or
> they won't work.

I thought they were going to require "activation" instead of
registration.

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Post by Lloyd Llewelly » Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:54:21


Quote:> Presumably one would receive a number to 'activate' the software... armed with
> this a bootlegger could make copies.  Or do they have another scheme?

It generates a key based on the hardware you're installing to.
 
 
 

Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001

Post by Steve Wither » Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:49:15




> > From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration or
> > they won't work.

> I thought they were going to require "activation" instead of
> registration.

Verifying the owner by any other name would smell as sweet.

Call it what you will. If you install it, it won't continue to run
unless you dial-up and register it with Microsoft.

 
 
 

Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001

Post by Davi » Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:49:39



> Verifying the owner by any other name would smell as sweet.

> Call it what you will. If you install it, it won't continue to run
> unless you dial-up and register it with Microsoft.

I won't be buying any more M$ junk. The last junk I bought from them was
win95 and then I found a real OS. I'm happy to say I'm M$ FREE!!

M$ to some extent is shooting themselves in the foot so to speak with
this new scheme as well as the .NET scheme. Since a lot of people have
no reason to upgrade every time M$ comes out with a new version. I know
people who still use win95 because it does what they need it to do.

It will turn more businesses and people to alternative systems to get
away from the M$ licensing costs and though it may slow it down some, it
probably won't stop the copying like they are trying to do.

My $0.02
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Post by Harlan Grov » Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:37:54




Quote:>>Presumably one would receive a number to 'activate' the software...
>>armed with this a bootlegger could make copies.  Or do they have
>>another scheme?

>It generates a key based on the hardware you're installing to.

Oh, joy! So if, say, my harddisk crashes and I buy a new, larger one,
then reinstall, presumably I'd need a new key. Why do I think this
wouldn't be painless?

Fortunately, anyone who's used both Office 97 and 2K knows how little
functionality was added in the latter. No pressing need for any
upgrades any time soon.

I can't wait until Microsoft starts charging by the CPU instruction.

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Post by Jean-Pierre Morea » Sun, 28 Jan 2001 04:43:22


About the coming registration system for Microsoft products.


> M$ to some extent is shooting themselves in the foot so to speak with
> this new scheme as well as the .NET scheme. Since a lot of people have
> no reason to upgrade every time M$ comes out with a new version. I know
> people who still use win95 because it does what they need it to do.

> It will turn more businesses and people to alternative systems to get
> away from the M$ licensing costs and though it may slow it down some, it
> probably won't stop the copying like they are trying to do.

My hopes are not too high that Microsoft can loose market for this.
They will turn it in a kind of useful feature to protect you against
'hackers' (meaning crackers), terrorists, music and video pirates,
Nazis, *s and all kinds of
     Dangerous Individuals Rambling
     Dangerously the Internet Freely and Frivolously
(DIRDIFF) (Hmm... I will take a trademark on it ;).

How they will do it? I don't know, but MS has a lot of people paid to
think about it.

But more to the point, I think that MS now is in a position to be
more monopolistic than ever, because the court case will float aimlessly
for years, and their NET iniative begins to make them the only
real players on the Internet. I hope it only begins. But some companies
and Internet sites no more have Netscape or Standard web compatibilities.
And MS counts on people taking it as A Good Thing: only one 'standard'!

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Post by Matt O'Tool » Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:27:40



Quote:> From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration or
> they won't work.

> Clamping down on the casual piracy that most of the world's Windows PC
> rely upon. Enforcing the monopoly.

I've always thought Microsoft benefitted a lot from this piracy.  All it
does is create more Microsoft users.  This just sells a lot more Microsoft
products, while destroying the market for competitors' products.  They could
have clamped down long ago, but I'm sure there's a good reason they didn't.
I think they're taking a gamble on this one, particularaly now, when users
*do* have other options.

Matt O.

 
 
 

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Post by james.. » Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:41:57




> > Verifying the owner by any other name would smell as sweet.

> > Call it what you will. If you install it, it won't continue to run
> > unless you dial-up and register it with Microsoft.

> I won't be buying any more M$ junk. The last junk I bought from them was
> win95 and then I found a real OS. I'm happy to say I'm M$ FREE!!

> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
> Completed more W/U's than 99.018% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

The last M$ junk I bought was Windblows 95 too. The most wasteful $75.00
I've ever spent.

jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."

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Post by cbbro.. » Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:40:31





>>> From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration
>>> or they won't work.
>> I thought they were going to require "activation" instead of
>> registration.

Steve> Verifying the owner by any other name would smell as sweet.

Steve> Call it what you will. If you install it, it won't continue to
Steve> run unless you dial-up and register it with Microsoft.

.. The ultimate "control" comes when the software doesn't even run on
_your_ computer.  

The ".Net" thing, as well as the move towards "web-based ASP systems"
(not the MSFT PHP-like "language," but the "run apps over the web"
approach) prevents "piracy" altogether when the software runs on their
computer and you never see any working code...
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Post by Geoffrey Tobi » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:37:31



> From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration or
> they won't work.

What about people who aren't on the Internet, but buy Microsoft
products?
Won't they have a case to charge Microsoft for the period they legally
owned the product but were prevented from using it?  (Accountants: read
"Opportunity Cost".)

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Post by Geoffrey Tobi » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:35:48



> I can't wait until Microsoft starts charging by the CPU instruction.

Intel will want, and be entitled to, a _big_ cut of that excise.

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Post by Geoffrey Tobi » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:48:12


...

Quote:> .. The ultimate "control" comes when the software doesn't even run on
> _your_ computer.

> The ".Net" thing, as well as the move towards "web-based ASP systems"
> (not the MSFT PHP-like "language," but the "run apps over the web"
> approach) prevents "piracy" altogether when the software runs on their
> computer and you never see any working code...

Will the Pentagon and NSA agree to process their data on corporate
owned hardware thousands of miles away?  With all the risks of it
being tapped?

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Post by Harlan Grov » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:20:21





>>I can't wait until Microsoft starts charging by the CPU instruction.

>Intel will want, and be entitled to, a _big_ cut of that excise.

In which case who pays AMD? More lawsuits?! Oh boy!!

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