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by MJ » Tue, 18 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:>Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
>95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

Ik zie dat je bij de Church of Emacs al in de ban bent gedaan. VI
staat daar voor Vile Incarnation.

http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/

by **Aqeel Mahesr** » Tue, 18 May 1999 04:00:00

All of our CS course readers' reference sections on emacs begin:
"In the interests of truth, beauty, and justice -- and to undo, in some small
part, the damage Berkeley has done by foisting vi on an already-unhappy world --
Emacs will be the official CS(course number) text editor this semester."

UC Berkeley has officially appologized for the creation of the
not-much-better-than-Windows-Notepad editor vi. Why do people still keep using
it?

> Hi,

> Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
> 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

> The Vi Lovers Home Page:
> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

> The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
> - Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
> - Vi FAQs,
> - Tutorials,
> - FTP sites,
> - jokes and the like,
> - and much more.

> The Vi Lovers Home Page:
> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

> Thomer M. Gil

by **Aqeel Mahesr** » Tue, 18 May 1999 04:00:00

ok, maybe not officially.

> >UC Berkeley has officially appologized for the creation of the
> >not-much-better-than-Windows-Notepad editor vi. Why do people still keep using
> >it?

> In which speach of which president of Berkeley did this happen?
> Which resolution of which Board of Governors?
> Or do you mean that someone sometime passing through the grounds of the
> campus did so, and that made it "official"?

by **Bob Nelso** » Tue, 18 May 1999 04:00:00

> UC Berkeley has officially appologized for the creation of the
> not-much-better-than-Windows-Notepad editor vi. Why do people still keep using
> it?

Hmmm...dunno about dat.

However...Bill Joy in a _Unix Review_ interview was less than enthusiastic
about his creation.

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by **N. Richard Caldwe** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

>I see "mouse support" in vim's feature list, but it seems
>equally dependent on X. Am I reading it wrong?
>Has the greatest vi extension ever been sacrificed to pretty GUIs?
>Is there any modern vi clone that uses the mouse in an xterm
>the way elvis-1.8 did?

VIM is supposed to be able to use mouse support with an Xterm.

Within VIM try ":help mouse" for details.

It appears to work but I haven't used it enough to say that it
works correctly. As a longtime vi user I still haven't
figured why you would want to move your hand that far from
the home keys. :>

--
N. Richard Caldwell
Lucent Technologies

by **W.B.Hi** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

>where's the lisp engine? ;->

I've got perl, python and tcl (well, I'm using vim :-)
Why should I want *lisp*???

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by **Roland Smit** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:> Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page.
> Vi is *the* editor under Unix,
> Windows 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

Tijd voor de jaarlijkse emacs - vi flamewar :)

EMACS RULES!

Roland (die nu z'n asbest ondergoed uit de kast haalt ;)
--
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the pavement is exactly one
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by **Michel Aarts** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:>Hi,

>Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
>95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

>The Vi Lovers Home Page:
>http://www.veryComputer.com/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

>The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
>- Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
>- Vi FAQs,
>- Tutorials,
>- FTP sites,
>- jokes and the like,
>- and much more.

>The Vi Lovers Home Page:
>http://www.veryComputer.com/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

Emacs Suckz !!
5 MB for a text editor..... I don't think so.

Michel
Who uses GVIM at work and at home.
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by **Frank Sweetse** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

> >The Vi Lovers Home Page:
> >http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

> Emacs Suckz !!
> 5 MB for a text editor..... I don't think so.

emacs is a a text editor the way a sherman tank is a convertible. it's
actually a lisp engine with a text editorish interface. that's how it can
support many non-text-editor features, such as mail, news, web, ftp, etc
etc...

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by **D. Vrabe** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

> >Hi,

> >Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
> >95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

> >The Vi Lovers Home Page:
> >http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

> >The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
> >- Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
> >- Vi FAQs,
> >- Tutorials,
> >- FTP sites,
> >- jokes and the like,
> >- and much more.

> >The Vi Lovers Home Page:
> >http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

> Emacs Suckz !!
> 5 MB for a text editor..... I don't think so.

Err... Its only 3MB. AND this is on a RISC machine (HP PA-RISC to be
precise).

David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.

by **Hans Wolte** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

and wrote the following ....

>> Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page.
>> Vi is *the* editor under Unix,
>> Windows 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

>Tijd voor de jaarlijkse emacs - vi flamewar :)

>EMACS RULES!

>Roland (die nu z'n asbest ondergoed uit de kast haalt ;)

People wouldn't know what that means Roland. (Asbest(os) underwear?;)

Emacs could be nice but is to big and Vi gives me the idea of working with
an older version of Word Perfect (where is that <ALT/SHIT/F3/F4/CTRLX>
shortcut for ..............................

Regards Hans
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by **Thomer M. Gi** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

Hi,

Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
95/98/NT and many other operating systems.

The Vi Lovers Home Page:
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
- Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
- Vi FAQs,
- Tutorials,
- FTP sites,
- jokes and the like,
- and much more.

The Vi Lovers Home Page:
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

Thomer M. Gil

by **Darren Gre** » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

When I first used the vi (In college), I hated it. I ripped on it all
day long. I found scripts to remove teh extra ^M characters in my
files transfered from windows just so I wouldn't have to use the vi.
But, after I started using linux, and the vi, I grew to love it. Its
an acquired taste. Once someone master the commands in vi, you can
really "scream" with your text editing. Its something you have to
invest some time in,

Darren

On Mon, 17 May 1999 17:02:58 -0700, Aqeel Mahesri

-->All of our CS course readers' reference sections on emacs begin:
-->"In the interests of truth, beauty, and justice -- and to undo, in some small
-->part, the damage Berkeley has done by foisting vi on an already-unhappy world --
-->Emacs will be the official CS(course number) text editor this semester."
-->
-->UC Berkeley has officially appologized for the creation of the
-->not-much-better-than-Windows-Notepad editor vi. Why do people still keep using
-->it?
-->
-->
-->> Hi,
-->>
-->> Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
-->> 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.
-->>
-->> The Vi Lovers Home Page:
-->> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html
-->>
-->> The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
-->> - Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
-->> - Vi FAQs,
-->> - Tutorials,
-->> - FTP sites,
-->> - jokes and the like,
-->> - and much more.
-->>
-->> The Vi Lovers Home Page:
-->> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html
-->>
-->> Thomer M. Gil
-->