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by **cryofa** » Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:01:33

Well, now I have this old P-120 on debian 2.1, No xwindows, just command
line.
X windows looks like a hassle, and I didn't install linux to get xwindows. I
am a student on semester break and for my senior project I want to qrite web
apps in perl. I don't know much perl or linux.
But I only have so much time.
So I want to concentrate on the Perl as much as possible. So that is why I
didn't try to setup X, also I don't know anything about the video card on
this computer.

So, I was able to seup wvdial. It does dial into my ISP, and seems to be
working. What happens is that it winds up finally outputting a line saying
"running pppd" or something; the modem seems to be connecting, etc.and
before it saying "runnig pppd" it outputs various messages, no errors etc.

And I alt-f2 to anohter virtaul window and try to start Lynx. so that I can
verify I am online. But Lynx won't start. Do I need X to run Lynx?

What can I run while the pppd is running on wvdial in order to verify that I
am online? I assume I need to switch to another virtual window in order to
run another app while wvdial is running?

What I plan on making in perl in Spring are things like web clients, etc.
Also I hope to set up Apache server and write server side stuff, cgi scripts
etc in Perl .Will I eventaully need to set up X windows in order to run
Apache?

TIA

by **Stefano Ghirland** » Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:21:49

> Well, now I have this old P-120 on debian 2.1, No xwindows, just
> command line.

good :-)

Quote:> And I alt-f2 to anohter virtaul window and try to start Lynx. so
> that I can verify I am online. But Lynx won't start. Do I need X to
> run Lynx?

No, you do not need X for lynx. Please post the error you get when you
try lynx.

Quote:> What can I run while the pppd is running on wvdial in order to
> verify that I am online? I assume I need to switch to another
> virtual window in order to run another app while wvdial is running?

No, you can launch any command in the background by ending the command
line with &. See "man bash", section on JOB CONTROL.

Quote:> What I plan on making in perl in Spring are things like web clients,
> etc. Also I hope to set up Apache server and write server side
> stuff, cgi scripts etc in Perl .Will I eventaully need to set up X
> windows in order to run Apache?

No, you won't need X to run apache.

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Stefano

by **Jan Schauman** » Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:30:30

> And I alt-f2 to anohter virtaul window and try to start Lynx. so that I
> can verify I am online. But Lynx won't start. Do I need X to run Lynx?

You do not need X to run lynx. What error do you get when you try to run
lynx? What happens?

Quote:> What can I run while the pppd is running on wvdial in order to verify
> that I am online?

You can run any application you like (as long as it's not a graphical
app, since yuo don't have X) - to check if you're online, a quick "ping"
would certainly suffice.

Quote:> I assume I need to switch to another virtual window in
> order to run another app while wvdial is running?

I haven't done dialup in a long, *long* time, so I mightbe wrong here,
but I think you can certainly have the pppd running in the background so
that there's no need to switch to another virtual console.

Did you provide all the necessary information (like DNS-server, IP and
the like)? Go and read the ISP-Hookeup-HOWTO
(http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.html)

Quote:> What I plan on making in perl in Spring are things like web clients,
> etc. Also I hope to set up Apache server and write server side stuff,
> cgi scripts etc in Perl .Will I eventaully need to set up X windows in
> order to run Apache?

No, X is not needed to run apache. However, X ist not that complicated to
set up and provides a lot of conveniences, so I'd suggest you install it,
unless you are low on disk-space and/or memory.

-Jan

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by **Paul Kimo** » Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:30:35

> And I alt-f2 to anohter virtual window and try to start Lynx. so that I can
> verify I am online. But Lynx won't start.

What do you mean by "won't start"? What happens if you tell it what web
page to get, e.g., "lynx http://www.kernel.org/"? Do you have the
(numerical) address of your DNS server(s) listed in /etc/resolv.conf?

Quote:> What can I run while the pppd is running on wvdial in order to verify that I
> am online? I assume I need to switch to another virtual window in order to
> run another app while wvdial is running?

Yes, unless wvdial is backgrounded. You can run "/sbin/route" and see
whether there's a line starting "default". If so, then your computer
believes that it knows how to contact arbitrary places on the internet.

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by **Sebastian Han** » Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:03:09

> > What can I run while the pppd is running on wvdial in order to verify
> > that I am online?

> You can run any application you like (as long as it's not a graphical
> app, since yuo don't have X) - to check if you're online, a quick "ping"
> would certainly suffice.

This checks if the connection is working as it should be.
It can be rendered useless by wrong routing and such
To check only if the ppp interface is up, use ifconfig without any
parameters. If ppp0 shows up, you are connected.

HAND
seb

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by **<garglemons..** » Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:40:45

cryofan> And I alt-f2 to anohter virtaul window and try to start
cryofan> Lynx. so that I can verify I am online. But Lynx won't
cryofan> start. Do I need X to run Lynx?

no, of course not, but without more info it's a little difficult to
give you advice. first, you should check to see that lynx's really
available. did you really install it? what about your PATH? if you
compiled it yourself, there a bunch of little config file gotcha's
that plagued me -- though i've since forgotten what they were. and
what about permissions? your network setup?

good luck,

gm

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by **Graham Wilso** » Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:05:28

<chomp>

Quote:> What can I run while the pppd is running on wvdial in order to verify that I
> am online? I assume I need to switch to another virtual window in order to
> run another app while wvdial is running?
<chomp>
> TIA

If all you really want to do is make sure you have a connection so you
can debug lynx, look in /var/log/syslog. All the relevant info will be
at the end of the file. G.

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