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by **Mark Heal** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:23:34

I installed RH7.2 because my 6.2 setup was cracked (largely my
fault for not keeping up with patches) and there were too many updates
to deal with.

Anyway, there are lots of things I don't understand and I don't have
the time to get a full grasp of them before I get everything working.

I can't get the mail and ftp working.

When I try to mail to the server from another account it never
arrives. When I try to use a client on another machine to check
mailboxes it won't connect. And of course I can't send through it
using a client on another machine.

When I try to fpt to it I get a message saying that that the server
may be down?

With 6.2 I dealt with this using linuxconf. It wasn't installed with
7.2 but was on the CD. I installed it and it didn't have the options
that the old one did.

How do I get these servcices up and running?

Mark Healey
marknews(the 'at' thing)healeyonline.com

by **Dave Uhrin** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:53:30

> When I try to mail to the server from another account it never
> arrives. When I try to use a client on another machine to check
> mailboxes it won't connect. And of course I can't send through it
> using a client on another machine.

Read the RELEASE-NOTES on CD 1 and implement the instructions therein.

Quote:> When I try to fpt to it I get a message saying that that the server
> may be down?

It is down. You have to activate it by editing the file in
/etc/xinetd.d directory and restarting xinetd.

Quote:> With 6.2 I dealt with this using linuxconf. It wasn't installed with
> 7.2 but was on the CD. I installed it and it didn't have the options
> that the old one did.

Linuxconf is completely broken and is useless anyway.

by **Mark Heal** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:25:54

> > When I try to mail to the server from another account it never
> > arrives. When I try to use a client on another machine to check
> > mailboxes it won't connect. And of course I can't send through it
> > using a client on another machine.

> Read the RELEASE-NOTES on CD 1 and implement the instructions therein.

It doesn't say anything about mail systems.

Quote:> > When I try to fpt to it I get a message saying that that the server
> > may be down?

> It is down. You have to activate it by editing the file in
> /etc/xinetd.d directory and restarting xinetd.

Thanks it worked. Now a somewhat tangental question. Why would you
have each service activation determined by an individual file. It
seems to me that it would be easier to have one file with the paths
and filenames of the relevant programs with any switches in one file.

Am I being a complete dope here?

Mark Healey
marknews(the 'at' thing)healeyonline.com

by **Mark Heal** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:27:23

> I installed RH7.2 because my 6.2 setup was cracked (largely my
> fault for not keeping up with patches) and there were too many updates
> to deal with.

> Anyway, there are lots of things I don't understand and I don't have
> the time to get a full grasp of them before I get everything working.

> I can't get the mail and ftp working.

> When I try to mail to the server from another account it never
> arrives. When I try to use a client on another machine to check
> mailboxes it won't connect. And of course I can't send through it
> using a client on another machine.

> When I try to fpt to it I get a message saying that that the server
> may be down?

> With 6.2 I dealt with this using linuxconf. It wasn't installed with
> 7.2 but was on the CD. I installed it and it didn't have the options
> that the old one did.

> How do I get these servcices up and running?

> Mark Healey
> marknews(the 'at' thing)healeyonline.com

Mark Healey
marknews(the 'at' thing)healeyonline.com

by **Markku Kolkk** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:52:04

> > Read the RELEASE-NOTES on CD 1 and implement the instructions therein.

> It doesn't say anything about mail systems.

See http://www.redhat.com/support/resources/gotchas/7.2/

Quote:> Why would you
> have each service activation determined by an individual file. It
> seems to me that it would be easier to have one file with the paths
> and filenames of the relevant programs with any switches in one file.

Automatically installing, upgrading and removing service packages is
lot easier when you can just add/remove a file instead of trying edit a
configuration file from a script.

--
Markku Kolkka

by **Dave Uhrin** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:31:54

>> > When I try to mail to the server from another account it never
>> > arrives. When I try to use a client on another machine to check
>> > mailboxes it won't connect. And of course I can't send through it
>> > using a client on another machine.

>> Read the RELEASE-NOTES on CD 1 and implement the instructions
>> therein.

> It doesn't say anything about mail systems.

I had not checked my 7.2 CD when I wrote that and simply "assumed" that
Red Hat had done the same thing to sendmail with 7.2 which they had
done with 7.1. My apologies.

Is sendmail actually started on your machine, with the -bd option?

by **Dave Uhrin** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:42:36

>>> > When I try to mail to the server from another account it never
>>> > arrives. When I try to use a client on another machine to check
>>> > mailboxes it won't connect. And of course I can't send through it
>>> > using a client on another machine.

>>> Read the RELEASE-NOTES on CD 1 and implement the instructions
>>> therein.

>> It doesn't say anything about mail systems.

> I had not checked my 7.2 CD when I wrote that and simply "assumed"
> that Red Hat had done the same thing to sendmail with 7.2 which they
> had
> done with 7.1. My apologies.

> Is sendmail actually started on your machine, with the -bd option?

I took a look at /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and indeed Red Hat did the same
thing with 7.2 as they did with 7.1. Excerpt from that file:

dnl This changes sendmail to only listen on the loopback device
127.0.0.1
dnl and not on any other network devices. Comment this out if you want
dnl to accept email over the network.
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')

IIRC, and I don't seem to have the 7.1 CDs, comment out the
DAEMON_OPTIONS line by pre-pending "dnl" to the line and executing

# m4 sendmail.mc > ./sendmail.cf
# /etc/init.d/sendmail restart

by **fred smit** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:57:35

>> When I try to mail to the server from another account it never
>> arrives. When I try to use a client on another machine to check
>> mailboxes it won't connect. And of course I can't send through it
>> using a client on another machine.

> Read the RELEASE-NOTES on CD 1 and implement the instructions therein.

Looking in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc (the .mc from which the default
sendmail.cf is made) you'll find this:

dnl This changes sendmail to only listen on the loopback device 127.0.0.1
dnl and not on any other network devices. Comment this out if you want
dnl to accept email over the network.
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')

which prevents any machines other than localhost from connecting to
your sendmail. If you want to connect to port 25 on this machine from
anywhere else in the world (or anywhere else on your own LAN) you'll
need to comment out that line and rebuild the sendmail.cf. For
instructions on how to do that, see /usr/share/sendmail-cf/README.

Quote:
>> When I try to fpt to it I get a message saying that that the server
>> may be down?

> It is down. You have to activate it by editing the file in
> /etc/xinetd.d directory and restarting xinetd.

>> With 6.2 I dealt with this using linuxconf. It wasn't installed with
>> 7.2 but was on the CD. I installed it and it didn't have the options
>> that the old one did.

> Linuxconf is completely broken and is useless anyway.

--

The Lord detests the way of the wicked
but he loves those who pursue righteousness.
----------------------------- Proverbs 15:9 (niv) -----------------------------

by **Mark Heal** » Mon, 11 Mar 2002 03:55:22

> >>> > When I try to mail to the server from another account it never
> >>> > arrives. When I try to use a client on another machine to check
> >>> > mailboxes it won't connect. And of course I can't send through it
> >>> > using a client on another machine.

> >>> Read the RELEASE-NOTES on CD 1 and implement the instructions
> >>> therein.

> >> It doesn't say anything about mail systems.

> > I had not checked my 7.2 CD when I wrote that and simply "assumed"
> > that Red Hat had done the same thing to sendmail with 7.2 which they
> > had
> > done with 7.1. My apologies.

> > Is sendmail actually started on your machine, with the -bd option?

> I took a look at /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and indeed Red Hat did the same
> thing with 7.2 as they did with 7.1. Excerpt from that file:

> dnl This changes sendmail to only listen on the loopback device
> 127.0.0.1
> dnl and not on any other network devices. Comment this out if you want
> dnl to accept email over the network.
> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')

> IIRC, and I don't seem to have the 7.1 CDs, comment out the
> DAEMON_OPTIONS line by pre-pending "dnl" to the line and executing

> # m4 sendmail.mc > ./sendmail.cf
> # /etc/init.d/sendmail restart

Did that and now I get a relaying denied message.

Mark Healey
marknews(the 'at' thing)healeyonline.com

by **Dave Uhrin** » Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:10:09

> Did that and now I get a relaying denied message.

You failed to mention anything about trying to relay mail in your
original post. Are we supposed to read your mind?

I recommend that you purchase O'Reilley's book "Sendmail" and give it
some study if you want to do more than what the basic sendmail install
gives you.

by **Mark Heal** » Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:40:33

> > Did that and now I get a relaying denied message.

> You failed to mention anything about trying to relay mail in your
> original post. Are we supposed to read your mind?

> I recommend that you purchase O'Reilley's book "Sendmail" and give it
> some study if you want to do more than what the basic sendmail install
> gives you.

Ok now jargon is getting confusing. When I wrote "relaying" that was
just the term used in the message bounced message.

What I am trying to do seems relatively simple. I managed to do it
with 6.2.

I want mail to the domain to go to the machine in question. My ISPs
nameserver takes care of this.

I want to be able to use clients on other machines to be able to
retrieve mail and send mail with the machine in question.

Mark Healey
marknews(the 'at' thing)healeyonline.com

by **Dave Uhrin** » Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:32:52

> I want mail to the domain to go to the machine in question. My ISPs
> nameserver takes care of this.

> I want to be able to use clients on other machines to be able to
> retrieve mail and send mail with the machine in question.

That is indeed relaying in addition to pop or imap service and I cannot
help you there. The setup should be more or less the same as it was
with RH-6.2.

Sendmail is used on such a server to send mail out to the internet and
receive mail to that server. Your server needs to be running a pop or
imap service for the client hosts to be able to retrieve their mail
from that server.

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