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Quote:>I'm thinking of getting MAE 2.0 for by Sparc and was wonder how
>the speed of MAE compares to say a PowerMac 6100. Does anyone
>have specs or "real life experience" with MAE 2.0.

Last time I checked with Apple (a week or so ago), MAE version 2 wasn't
actually shipping.  It was at least 2 weeks backordered, and the sales
rep I talked to was willing to take an order, but wasn't willing to tell
me when they were actually planning to ship it.

I'd also be interested in hearing whether anyone has gotten their hands
on version 2, and what their experience has been, especially with regard
to performance.
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While we're at it, does anyone have any rough prices (list and/or
educational) for MAE/Solaris?

Thanks,

 <<Jim
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: >I'm thinking of getting MAE 2.0 for by Sparc and was wonder how
: >the speed of MAE compares to say a PowerMac 6100. Does anyone
: >have specs or "real life experience" with MAE 2.0.

: Last time I checked with Apple (a week or so ago), MAE version 2 wasn't
: actually shipping.  It was at least 2 weeks backordered, and the sales
: rep I talked to was willing to take an order, but wasn't willing to tell
: me when they were actually planning to ship it.

: I'd also be interested in hearing whether anyone has gotten their hands
: on version 2, and what their experience has been, especially with regard
: to performance.

Emory has it, and it is okay.  A much improved product over MAE 1.0.
However it does have some bugs.  We use the automounter with seems to
confuse MAE sometimes.

I am not happy with the philosophy of how the MAE sees the UNIX file
system.  Under WABI, it creates a directory in your home directory,
then mimics your C: drive as that directory.  MAE makes your root
directory as your only "real" volume.  This is a bad design decision
IMHO.  

By doing this, they had to come up w/ a kludge to get software to
install (the TIV, temporary installer volume) at all.  It would have
been easier to make a virtual volume in your home directory.

Sorry for me ranting.

It is very good and it does run the software I have on my powerbook
540c.  On my SS5 it is sometimes as fast as a 6100, but most of the
time it works more like a IIsi.  It depends how loaded your system is
already.

And it is a memory hog!

cfs
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I've been using the beta 2 for a while now, and it IS now shipping
as MAE 2.0. (Got my copy a few weeks ago.)
I think pricing is $599 list, but I have seen lower educational
prices. (sorry if I'm off a bit on that #).

Re: performance, I now use MAE as my Mac, now that I have an
Xterminal directly to our Sun. I don't have many complaints,
and there are many advantages in having the same filesystems
for Mac & UNIX. Performance on my SPARC 10 Model 50 is roughly
high II or low centris - roughly. Just fine for doing productivity
things. I leave the number crunching to the UNIX applications,

There is a demo at apple's ftp, but it's v 1.0 and is slower, is
a CPU hog and has limited networking. (A good reason to upgrade
your 1.0 to 2.0 if you're considering.)

MAE 2.0 is farily CPU efficient (about 7% CPU util while iconed)
and cranks to more when used. It does have a nice settable
autoslowdown feature, for those times when you're thinking, and
not typing!

So in general, it's great if you're a UNIX user who wants to run
some of the popular Mac productivity applications, but don't have
a Mac. And for those people with a Mac also, the MAE still gives
you the nice integration.

For example, I recently was performing some automated testing using
a UNIX application. The data was saved to a UNIX textfile. I then
launched Excel, and within minutes I had some nice post processing
performed in your typical-easy-to-use Mac apps.

Well, hope that gives some info. Try out the v1.0 for starters.
Realize that v2.0 will be faster, give full Appletalk, have sound,
etc. and it may be the right choice for you.

Good luck & enjoy!

?>I'm thinking of getting MAE 2.0 for by Sparc and was wonder how
?>the speed of MAE compares to say a PowerMac 6100. Does anyone
?>have specs or "real life experience" with MAE 2.0.
?
?Last time I checked with Apple (a week or so ago), MAE version 2 wasn't
?actually shipping.  It was at least 2 weeks backordered, and the sales
?rep I talked to was willing to take an order, but wasn't willing to tell
?me when they were actually planning to ship it.
?
?I'd also be interested in hearing whether anyone has gotten their hands
?on version 2, and what their experience has been, especially with regard
?to performance.

We got a copy here last week.  It works.  It's much quicker than version 1.0
was, and it talk AppleTalk, has sound etc.

It is still too slow when running on an IPC though :-(
Seems usable on an SS5/85 though.

Davin.
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        It's probably way too soon to get a good answer to this, but does MAE do
AppleShare, and for $64,000, can it outperform CAP as an AppleShare
server?
        We've got a simple LX, so it sounds like speed will be a definate
problem, but it's almost worth the $600 to have only one machine on my
desk. Oh, the AppleShare server is more a place for storing data files
than applications (most of those are local).
Thanks in advance,

Brian Hill