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Hi all,

I'm trying to coerce my Sun Blade 100 with PCi II Pro card to
run Windoze 2000 - and I'm not having much luck.  On a fresh
install of Solaris 8 7/01, I can install the Sun PCi II 2.2.1
software, no problem (once the *y volume management stuff
had been sorted out!).  I can even install Windoze 2000 Professional
(Professional?  Hah!  Now THERE's a misnomer if I ever heard
one).  I get as far as inputting the enabling code and assigning
a hostname and an Admin password.  Then Win2k does it's reboot
bit - and then the sunpci process promptly exits: not even a
"by your leave"!

So, WTF is going on?  According to the docs, the setup I'm using
is supported (I'm using a 2048 MB virtual C: drive*, BTW) - I
even upgraded my OBP to the latest.

A serach on google revealed some similar problems, but I couldn't
find anything with my exact setup.

* I can't believe M$ are STILL using drive letters - I mean, come
on!

Any help greatfully received!

TIA,

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Hey Rich,

I guess you missed my several posts about this issue.  I have the
previous version of the card but I'm sure everything is the same except
for the CPU and memory.  I ended up staying with sunpci 2.0.1 and will
check out Sun's next version of the software.  FWIW, I could not get
Win98SE, NT 4.0, nor Win2K to work on my Blade with Sol 8 01/01 or 04/01
and sunpci 2.2.1.

Quote:

> Any help greatfully received!

Sorry I couldn't help you but Win2k works (better than Win98SE and NT
4.0) great on my Blade with Sol 8 04/01 and sunpci 2.0.1 (except for the
mac address of 00-00-00-00-00-00 bug).

Greg

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Quote:>...
>one).  I get as far as inputting the enabling code and assigning
>a hostname and an Admin password.  Then Win2k does it's reboot
>bit - and then the sunpci process promptly exits: not even a
>"by your leave"!

Exits the sunpci when it switchs into the graphics mode? If yes, put this lines
in your $HOME/pc/SunPC.ini

[Display]
OldText

I need this lines with my sunpci.
Eberhard

I think you had mentioned before that doing this causes graphic
performance to be even slower than sunpci 2.0.1.  Is that the case or
were you joking?  If you think the performance is still decent I may try
that out.

Greg

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compare it an so i don't know it ;-)
When you move a window in windows it is slow, but with user progs it seems to be normal.

BTW there is a patch for the sunpci software to version 2.2.2 but it is still the same
OldText problem.

Eberhard

Cool, thanks for the info.  I think I may try it out when I have the
time.

Greg

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Both of my old 300Mhz/400Mhz Sun PCI cards work flawlessly with NT.  I was
recommending SunPCI II cards for our workplace but this doesn't sound good.
It also sounds like Sun is not supporting them, or at least not trying
real hard to fix the problems.  Should we stay away for a while?  The
older SunPCI cards are too slow for our use.  Rich, it certainly gives
me pause if you are having problems and the fact that Sun hasn't given
you support on this either.

Hi Greg,

Yes, I remember the thread - but I'm using a newer version of the hardware.
See my other responses for more info.

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Quote:> Exits the sunpci when it switchs into the graphics mode? If yes, put this lines
> in your $HOME/pc/SunPC.ini

> [Display]
> OldText

> I need this lines with my sunpci.

Well * me - that did the trick!  On Solaris 8 7/01, at least.
I'm going to try it with *ahem* a later release to see if *it*
also works (I suspect it will).

Thanks for the tip - where did you find this info from, and where
did you get the 2.2.2 patch from (I couldn't see it on Sunsolve
last night)?

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The graphic performace seems to be OK for me.

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Quote:> Both of my old 300Mhz/400Mhz Sun PCI cards work flawlessly with NT.  I was
> recommending SunPCI II cards for our workplace but this doesn't sound good.
> It also sounds like Sun is not supporting them, or at least not trying
> real hard to fix the problems.  Should we stay away for a while?  The

The fix that Eberhard Burkard suggested (putting [Display] OldText in to
~/pc/SunPC.ini) works a treat: I now have the "Getting started with
Windoze 2000 on my PCi desktop.  So recommend away, but mention this
workaround.

Quote:> older SunPCI cards are too slow for our use.  Rich, it certainly gives
> me pause if you are having problems and the fact that Sun hasn't given

Well, I was hoping it would be straight forward.  I should've trusted
my instincts: nothing is straight forward where M$ and x86 hardware
is involved - even on a Sun!

Quote:> you support on this either.

To be fair, I didn't ask Sun for any help - although I did post here
yesterday asking them to update the manual.  You need Volume Management
installed to successfully install the PCi software, wheich the manual
doesn't mention.

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And does the mac address show properly on the network (not
00-00-00-00-00-00) using the SunPCi NIC?  That's one of the fixes in
2.2.1 but I've never verified it with anybody.  If the mac address is
proper it will be a big reason for me to try 2.2.1 again.

Thanks, Greg

How would I check?  I've got the virtual networking stuff to work;
I'm currently downloading Win2K SP2.

I have to say, using this M$ is so nausiating.  I really can't see what
MS advocates see to like...

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Hmm. It just occured to me that one could install Linux on the SunPCI, one
could have one's cake and eat it. Or you could install DOS and be able to
play the DOS version of Elite[1] on it.

[1] Famous game invented in the UK and first seen on BBC Bs in 1985.

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If you can ping between the two machines just do a "/usr/sbin/arp -a" on
your Blade after a ping.  This is if you are using the network port on
the PCI card (usually virtual networking means your using the Blade's
network port).

Quote:> I have to say, using this M$ is so nausiating.  I really can't see what
> MS advocates see to like...

Yeah, I dread when I have to use my Windows box here at work.  And the
only reason I need the SunPCi card at home is for one little app that we
need to administer are OpenMarket products.  All their other apps are
Java or Web based so it's annoying that this one little app is Win32
only.

Greg

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