Blank screen on boot

Blank screen on boot

Post by Jonathon Horsm » Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:28:49



Running an Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with Solaris 8 installed.
This was working fine with keyboard connected, but when I tried
booting without there was no repsonse via network; so I assume it does
not boot properly.

I tried forcing (via the SET-ENV command in NVRAM) to make the input
device ttya and output device ttya but still no joy. Of course now I
can't access the NVRAM or do anything because I/O is redirected
(couldn't access via serial either).

So I followed the advice of previous posts and hit STOP-N to revert to
defaults.

This appears to have actually worked, the monitor makes a convincing
clicking sound and keyboard lights flash when started, however nothing
ever appears although I can toggle caps lock so it is obviously
responding.

Any suggestions?

Thanks muchly

 
 
 

Blank screen on boot

Post by Jonathan Hay » Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:56:09


Most Sun hardware looks for the existence of a keyboard at boot time. If
it doesn't see a keyboard it will direct the keyboard/video functions to
Serial A (called "headless" operation). Plug a terminal into Serial A or a
serial cable to your laptop and you will find your lost video.

> Running an Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with Solaris 8 installed.
> This was working fine with keyboard connected, but when I tried
> booting without there was no repsonse via network; so I assume it does
> not boot properly.

> I tried forcing (via the SET-ENV command in NVRAM) to make the input
> device ttya and output device ttya but still no joy. Of course now I
> can't access the NVRAM or do anything because I/O is redirected
> (couldn't access via serial either).

> So I followed the advice of previous posts and hit STOP-N to revert to
> defaults.

> This appears to have actually worked, the monitor makes a convincing
> clicking sound and keyboard lights flash when started, however nothing
> ever appears although I can toggle caps lock so it is obviously
> responding.

> Any suggestions?

> Thanks muchly


 
 
 

Blank screen on boot

Post by Jonathon Horsma » Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:42:41


I pulled the machine out of the server room and it's currently sitting
on my desk. I've plugged a serial cable (taken from a modem) from the 25
pin labelled 'A' to my (9 pin) serial port.
Running minicom (on Linux) produces no video, I've disconnected the
keyboard and monitor on the Ultra and cycled the power.

My terminal setting should be 8N1, 9600 right?

A previous post mentioned hitting Ctrl-Break from a terminal session to
get the A prompt, but that doesn't seem to work either...

What next?!


> Most Sun hardware looks for the existence of a keyboard at boot time. If
> it doesn't see a keyboard it will direct the keyboard/video functions to
> Serial A (called "headless" operation). Plug a terminal into Serial A or a
> serial cable to your laptop and you will find your lost video.


>>Running an Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with Solaris 8 installed.
>>This was working fine with keyboard connected, but when I tried
>>booting without there was no repsonse via network; so I assume it does
>>not boot properly.

>>I tried forcing (via the SET-ENV command in NVRAM) to make the input
>>device ttya and output device ttya but still no joy. Of course now I
>>can't access the NVRAM or do anything because I/O is redirected
>>(couldn't access via serial either).

>>So I followed the advice of previous posts and hit STOP-N to revert to
>>defaults.

>>This appears to have actually worked, the monitor makes a convincing
>>clicking sound and keyboard lights flash when started, however nothing
>>ever appears although I can toggle caps lock so it is obviously
>>responding.

>>Any suggestions?

>>Thanks muchly

--
Jonathon Horsman
Systems Administrator - Jungle Drum
Ph: 09 3744510
Mob: 021 322595

 
 
 

Blank screen on boot

Post by Jonathan Hay » Fri, 19 Oct 2001 04:02:58


Sorry - I should have been more explicit. You will need a null modem cable
between your PC and the Sun Serial A port.

On the DB25 tx=pin2, rx=pin3  (Sun serial)
On the DB9  tx=pin3, rx=pin2  (PC serial)


> I pulled the machine out of the server room and it's currently sitting
> on my desk. I've plugged a serial cable (taken from a modem) from the 25
> pin labelled 'A' to my (9 pin) serial port.
> Running minicom (on Linux) produces no video, I've disconnected the
> keyboard and monitor on the Ultra and cycled the power.

> My terminal setting should be 8N1, 9600 right?

> A previous post mentioned hitting Ctrl-Break from a terminal session to
> get the A prompt, but that doesn't seem to work either...

> What next?!


> > Most Sun hardware looks for the existence of a keyboard at boot time. If
> > it doesn't see a keyboard it will direct the keyboard/video functions to
> > Serial A (called "headless" operation). Plug a terminal into Serial A or a
> > serial cable to your laptop and you will find your lost video.


> >>Running an Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with Solaris 8 installed.
> >>This was working fine with keyboard connected, but when I tried
> >>booting without there was no repsonse via network; so I assume it does
> >>not boot properly.

> >>I tried forcing (via the SET-ENV command in NVRAM) to make the input
> >>device ttya and output device ttya but still no joy. Of course now I
> >>can't access the NVRAM or do anything because I/O is redirected
> >>(couldn't access via serial either).

> >>So I followed the advice of previous posts and hit STOP-N to revert to
> >>defaults.

> >>This appears to have actually worked, the monitor makes a convincing
> >>clicking sound and keyboard lights flash when started, however nothing
> >>ever appears although I can toggle caps lock so it is obviously
> >>responding.

> >>Any suggestions?

> >>Thanks muchly

> --
> Jonathon Horsman
> Systems Administrator - Jungle Drum
> Ph: 09 3744510
> Mob: 021 322595


 
 
 

Blank screen on boot

Post by Jonathon Horsma » Fri, 19 Oct 2001 04:28:13


I'll have to source a DB25 which I can rewire.
Nevertheless I can't explain why, after having reset the NVRAM, I get no
display.
It boots as if it's outputting to the monitor and I can toggle caps lock
but there is nothing onscreen. And it was working two days ago! So even
if I get access via serial my bigger problem remains

I appreciate your input on this


> Sorry - I should have been more explicit. You will need a null modem cable
> between your PC and the Sun Serial A port.

> On the DB25 tx=pin2, rx=pin3  (Sun serial)
> On the DB9  tx=pin3, rx=pin2  (PC serial)


>>I pulled the machine out of the server room and it's currently sitting
>>on my desk. I've plugged a serial cable (taken from a modem) from the 25
>>pin labelled 'A' to my (9 pin) serial port.
>>Running minicom (on Linux) produces no video, I've disconnected the
>>keyboard and monitor on the Ultra and cycled the power.

>>My terminal setting should be 8N1, 9600 right?

>>A previous post mentioned hitting Ctrl-Break from a terminal session to
>>get the A prompt, but that doesn't seem to work either...

>>What next?!


>>>Most Sun hardware looks for the existence of a keyboard at boot time. If
>>>it doesn't see a keyboard it will direct the keyboard/video functions to
>>>Serial A (called "headless" operation). Plug a terminal into Serial A or a
>>>serial cable to your laptop and you will find your lost video.


>>>>Running an Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with Solaris 8 installed.
>>>>This was working fine with keyboard connected, but when I tried
>>>>booting without there was no repsonse via network; so I assume it does
>>>>not boot properly.

>>>>I tried forcing (via the SET-ENV command in NVRAM) to make the input
>>>>device ttya and output device ttya but still no joy. Of course now I
>>>>can't access the NVRAM or do anything because I/O is redirected
>>>>(couldn't access via serial either).

>>>>So I followed the advice of previous posts and hit STOP-N to revert to
>>>>defaults.

>>>>This appears to have actually worked, the monitor makes a convincing
>>>>clicking sound and keyboard lights flash when started, however nothing
>>>>ever appears although I can toggle caps lock so it is obviously
>>>>responding.

>>>>Any suggestions?

>>>>Thanks muchly

>>--
>>Jonathon Horsman
>>Systems Administrator - Jungle Drum
>>Ph: 09 3744510
>>Mob: 021 322595


--
Jonathon Horsman
Systems Administrator - Jungle Drum
Ph: 09 3744510
Mob: 021 322595

 
 
 

Blank screen on boot

Post by Jonathon Horsma » Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:05:32


I can't find a pin diagram for null modem cables. What other pin
connections do I need or is it just these two?

Is there anything special I need to do in order to get output to appear?
So far I've had no luck.


> Sorry - I should have been more explicit. You will need a null modem cable
> between your PC and the Sun Serial A port.

> On the DB25 tx=pin2, rx=pin3  (Sun serial)
> On the DB9  tx=pin3, rx=pin2  (PC serial)


>>I pulled the machine out of the server room and it's currently sitting
>>on my desk. I've plugged a serial cable (taken from a modem) from the 25
>>pin labelled 'A' to my (9 pin) serial port.
>>Running minicom (on Linux) produces no video, I've disconnected the
>>keyboard and monitor on the Ultra and cycled the power.

>>My terminal setting should be 8N1, 9600 right?

>>A previous post mentioned hitting Ctrl-Break from a terminal session to
>>get the A prompt, but that doesn't seem to work either...

>>What next?!


>>>Most Sun hardware looks for the existence of a keyboard at boot time. If
>>>it doesn't see a keyboard it will direct the keyboard/video functions to
>>>Serial A (called "headless" operation). Plug a terminal into Serial A or a
>>>serial cable to your laptop and you will find your lost video.


>>>>Running an Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with Solaris 8 installed.
>>>>This was working fine with keyboard connected, but when I tried
>>>>booting without there was no repsonse via network; so I assume it does
>>>>not boot properly.

>>>>I tried forcing (via the SET-ENV command in NVRAM) to make the input
>>>>device ttya and output device ttya but still no joy. Of course now I
>>>>can't access the NVRAM or do anything because I/O is redirected
>>>>(couldn't access via serial either).

>>>>So I followed the advice of previous posts and hit STOP-N to revert to
>>>>defaults.

>>>>This appears to have actually worked, the monitor makes a convincing
>>>>clicking sound and keyboard lights flash when started, however nothing
>>>>ever appears although I can toggle caps lock so it is obviously
>>>>responding.

>>>>Any suggestions?

>>>>Thanks muchly

>>--
>>Jonathon Horsman
>>Systems Administrator - Jungle Drum
>>Ph: 09 3744510
>>Mob: 021 322595


--
Jonathon Horsman
Systems Administrator - Jungle Drum
Ph: 09 3744510
Mob: 021 322595

 
 
 

Blank screen on boot

Post by Jonathan Hay » Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:59:42


I put the string "sun serial cable" into Google and the first link in the list
had a diagram.

http://www.stokely.com/unix.serial.port.resources/A-B-Ycablepinout.html

If your serial port is bad (rare, but I've seen it happen) and your video card is
bad, you've got to get one of them fixed. If you're not experienced enough to
know whether this is the case you ought to get someone who is. There is a
learning curve with Sun hardware and without taking classes, or having a mentor
handy or a lab to play with that curve can be pretty steep.

I think you'd have to do something really radical to the OBP to not get any video
at all, although the bigger machines (E4500, and so on) won't give you any video
for a long time if you have diagnostics set to max.


> I can't find a pin diagram for null modem cables. What other pin
> connections do I need or is it just these two?

> Is there anything special I need to do in order to get output to appear?
> So far I've had no luck.


> > Sorry - I should have been more explicit. You will need a null modem cable
> > between your PC and the Sun Serial A port.

> > On the DB25 tx=pin2, rx=pin3  (Sun serial)
> > On the DB9  tx=pin3, rx=pin2  (PC serial)


> >>I pulled the machine out of the server room and it's currently sitting
> >>on my desk. I've plugged a serial cable (taken from a modem) from the 25
> >>pin labelled 'A' to my (9 pin) serial port.
> >>Running minicom (on Linux) produces no video, I've disconnected the
> >>keyboard and monitor on the Ultra and cycled the power.

> >>My terminal setting should be 8N1, 9600 right?

> >>A previous post mentioned hitting Ctrl-Break from a terminal session to
> >>get the A prompt, but that doesn't seem to work either...

> >>What next?!


> >>>Most Sun hardware looks for the existence of a keyboard at boot time. If
> >>>it doesn't see a keyboard it will direct the keyboard/video functions to
> >>>Serial A (called "headless" operation). Plug a terminal into Serial A or a
> >>>serial cable to your laptop and you will find your lost video.


> >>>>Running an Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 with Solaris 8 installed.
> >>>>This was working fine with keyboard connected, but when I tried
> >>>>booting without there was no repsonse via network; so I assume it does
> >>>>not boot properly.

> >>>>I tried forcing (via the SET-ENV command in NVRAM) to make the input
> >>>>device ttya and output device ttya but still no joy. Of course now I
> >>>>can't access the NVRAM or do anything because I/O is redirected
> >>>>(couldn't access via serial either).

> >>>>So I followed the advice of previous posts and hit STOP-N to revert to
> >>>>defaults.

> >>>>This appears to have actually worked, the monitor makes a convincing
> >>>>clicking sound and keyboard lights flash when started, however nothing
> >>>>ever appears although I can toggle caps lock so it is obviously
> >>>>responding.

> >>>>Any suggestions?

> >>>>Thanks muchly

> >>--
> >>Jonathon Horsman
> >>Systems Administrator - Jungle Drum
> >>Ph: 09 3744510
> >>Mob: 021 322595

> --
> Jonathon Horsman
> Systems Administrator - Jungle Drum
> Ph: 09 3744510
> Mob: 021 322595


 
 
 

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