1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Dr. Rainer Terne » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Hi,

Is it possible to get 1600x1200 resolution with 24-bit
color on a Ultra5 or Ultra10 Sparc workstation?

Thanks,
  Rainer

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by News Reade » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00



> Hi,

> Is it possible to get 1600x1200 resolution with 24-bit
> color on a Ultra5 or Ultra10 Sparc workstation?

> Thanks,
>   Rainer

> --


Yes, but you  might have to purchase a new graphics adapter (do not know
about newer 5/10 models though).
Take a look at http://www.skyblue.de/ and search for Raptor (quite cheap
24bpp graphics) or Creator (midrange 2D/3D card).
 Select 'Peripherie' from the menu on the left.

Wolfram.

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Erik Hovla » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00


| Hi,
|
| Is it possible to get 1600x1200 resolution with 24-bit
| color on a Ultra5 or Ultra10 Sparc workstation?

Yes, both the 5 and 10 have a UPA slot which can take a creator3d or
elite3d card which would provide this resolution. The u5 does not have
easy access to the UPA slot in the case supplied so to use it get
ready to put the mobo in something else. The Sun PGX32 card is a Sun
rebranded TSI Raptor card (w/ the permedia chipset and not the older #9
chipset). And it supposedly supports this resolution although I have
never been able to get it that high with any level of success.

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Ronald Raulef » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00




> > Is it possible to get 1600x1200 resolution with 24-bit
> > color on a Ultra5 or Ultra10 Sparc workstation?
> Yes, but you  might have to purchase a new graphics adapter (do not know
> about newer 5/10 models though).
> Take a look at http://www.skyblue.de/ and search for Raptor (quite cheap
> 24bpp graphics) or Creator (midrange 2D/3D card).
>  Select 'Peripherie' from the menu on the left.

Hi there,

I found all the models at skyblue - but if you want to use 1280x1024 and
85Hz/24Bit with a 21 inch Sun monitor (96kHz) - I cannot make it, even
with a creator 3d. It only works with 76Hz fine. With 85 Hz some lines
are moved to the left or to the right (maybe a 100 lines, it changes
dynamical every 2 to 10 seconds dependig on the mouse movements I make)
-  Any hints how it could work with 85Hz fine as well?

Ronald
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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Casper H.S. Dik - Network Security Engine » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


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>I found all the models at skyblue - but if you want to use 1280x1024 and
>85Hz/24Bit with a 21 inch Sun monitor (96kHz) - I cannot make it, even
>with a creator 3d. It only works with 76Hz fine. With 85 Hz some lines
>are moved to the left or to the right (maybe a 100 lines, it changes
>dynamical every 2 to 10 seconds dependig on the mouse movements I make)
>-  Any hints how it could work with 85Hz fine as well?

85Hz works fine on my Creator3D (FFB2+); this might be a problem with
older ASICs or software, though I've never seen it on my U60 which is
around 15 months old.

--- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---
Type: double-buffered FFB2+ with Z-buffer
Board: rev 2 (Vertical)

FBC: version 0x3241906d
DAC: Brooktree 9070, version 1 (Pac2)
3DRAM: Mitsubishi 130a, version 1
EDID Data: Available - EDID version 1 revision 1
Monitor Sense ID: 4  (Sun 39x29cm RGB color monitor)
Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
        1024x768x77, 1024x800x84, 1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x800x76,
        1280x1024x60, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 1280x1024x85,
        960x680x112s, 960x680x108s, 640x480x60, 1440x900x76, 1600x1000x66,
        1600x1000x76, 1920x1080x72, 1920x1200x70
Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x85

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Ronald Raulef » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00




> >I found all the models at skyblue - but if you want to use 1280x1024 and
> >85Hz/24Bit with a 21 inch Sun monitor (96kHz) - I cannot make it, even
> >with a creator 3d. It only works with 76Hz fine. With 85 Hz some lines
> >are moved to the left or to the right (maybe a 100 lines, it changes
> >dynamical every 2 to 10 seconds dependig on the mouse movements I make)
> >-  Any hints how it could work with 85Hz fine as well?

> 85Hz works fine on my Creator3D (FFB2+); this might be a problem with
> older ASICs or software, though I've never seen it on my U60 which is
> around 15 months old.

my Ultra 10 is 7 months old...

> --- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---
> Type: double-buffered FFB2+ with Z-buffer
> Board: rev 2 (Vertical)

> FBC: version 0x3241906d
> DAC: Brooktree 9070, version 1 (Pac2)
> 3DRAM: Mitsubishi 130a, version 1
> EDID Data: Available - EDID version 1 revision 1
> Monitor Sense ID: 4  (Sun 39x29cm RGB color monitor)
> Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
>         1024x768x77, 1024x800x84, 1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x800x76,
>         1280x1024x60, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 1280x1024x85,
>         960x680x112s, 960x680x108s, 640x480x60, 1440x900x76, 1600x1000x66,
>         1600x1000x76, 1920x1080x72, 1920x1200x70
> Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x85

Thanks for prompt answering! See below what I get - how can I change the
possible monitor resolutions and additionally it should work as well;)
Are there any files to change - I am running Solaris7. What can I do?
Thanks a lot!

Quote:>>> ffbconfig -prconf

--- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---
Type: double-buffered FFB2+ with Z-buffer
Board: rev 2 (Vertical)

FBC: version 0x3241906d
DAC: Brooktree 9070, version 1 (Pac2)
3DRAM: Mitsubishi 130a, version 1
EDID Data: Available - EDID version 1 revision 1
Monitor Sense ID: 4  (Sun 39x29cm RGB color monitor)
Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
        1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76,
960x680x112s,
        640x480x60
Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x76

Quote:>>> ffbconfig -propt

--- OpenWindows Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---
OWconfig: machine
Video Mode: 1280x1024x76
Default Visual: Non-Linear Normal Visual
Visual Ordering: Linear Visuals are last
                 Overlay Visuals are last
OpenGL Visual Expansion: enabled
Server Overlay Visuals: enabled
Extended Overlay: enabled
Underlay WIDs: 64 (not configurable)
Overlay WIDs: 4 (not configurable)
Gamma Correction Value: 2.220000
Gamma Correction Table: Available

Ronald

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Martin Pau » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Quote:> 85Hz works fine on my Creator3D (FFB2+); this might be a problem with
> older ASICs or software, though I've never seen it on my U60 which is
> around 15 months old.

> --- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---

I have the same hardware configuration, but less resolutions
(1280x1024x85 is missing, too).

Looking at the README for patch 106145 (the creator3d patch for
Solaris 7), bugid 4240890 looks promising:

(from 106145-10)
   4240890 setting afb/ffb resolution to 1280x1024x85 on an 21" monitor shows
           horizontal lines.

Im on rev. 08, so this might be worth a try.

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Casper H.S. Dik - Network Security Engine » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


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>Thanks for prompt answering! See below what I get - how can I change the
>possible monitor resolutions and additionally it should work as well;)
>Are there any files to change - I am running Solaris7. What can I do?
>Thanks a lot!

Well, I run Solaris 8 or later and perhaps there's a diffrence.

Sun 21" monitor.

Have you installed all FFB patches?

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Casper H.S. Dik - Network Security Engine » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


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>> 85Hz works fine on my Creator3D (FFB2+); this might be a problem with
>> older ASICs or software, though I've never seen it on my U60 which is
>> around 15 months old.

>> --- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---
>I have the same hardware configuration, but less resolutions
>(1280x1024x85 is missing, too).
>Looking at the README for patch 106145 (the creator3d patch for
>Solaris 7), bugid 4240890 looks promising:
>(from 106145-10)
>   4240890 setting afb/ffb resolution to 1280x1024x85 on an 21" monitor shows
>           horizontal lines.
>Im on rev. 08, so this might be worth a try.

Indeed, running the S7 FCS ffbconfig binary on my system gives:

Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
        1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 960x680x112s,
        640x480x60
Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x85

The current ffbconfig for S7 reports:

Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
        1024x768x77, 1024x800x84, 1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x800x76,
        1280x1024x60, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 1280x1024x85,
        960x680x112s, 960x680x108s, 640x480x60, 1440x900x76, 1600x1000x66,
        1600x1000x76, 1920x1080x72, 1920x1200x70
Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x85

That old ffbconfig claims that my monitor doesn't support those
interesting resolutions; the later version accepts them.

Casper
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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by News Reade » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00



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> >> 85Hz works fine on my Creator3D (FFB2+); this might be a problem with
> >> older ASICs or software, though I've never seen it on my U60 which is
> >> around 15 months old.

> >> --- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---

> >I have the same hardware configuration, but less resolutions
> >(1280x1024x85 is missing, too).

> >Looking at the README for patch 106145 (the creator3d patch for
> >Solaris 7), bugid 4240890 looks promising:

> >(from 106145-10)
> >   4240890 setting afb/ffb resolution to 1280x1024x85 on an 21" monitor shows
> >           horizontal lines.

> >Im on rev. 08, so this might be worth a try.

> Indeed, running the S7 FCS ffbconfig binary on my system gives:

> Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
>         1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 960x680x112s,
>         640x480x60
> Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x85

> The current ffbconfig for S7 reports:

> Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
>         1024x768x77, 1024x800x84, 1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x800x76,
>         1280x1024x60, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 1280x1024x85,
>         960x680x112s, 960x680x108s, 640x480x60, 1440x900x76, 1600x1000x66,
>         1600x1000x76, 1920x1080x72, 1920x1200x70
> Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x85

> That old ffbconfig claims that my monitor doesn't support those
> interesting resolutions; the later version accepts them.

> Casper
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> Expressed in this posting are my opinions.  They are in no way related
> to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
> Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
> be fiction rather than truth.

I'm currently using a Creator 3D in my U10 clone on a viewSonic 21" monitor
(115kHz). Is it possible to get 1600x1200 at more than 76 Hz ? I'm running Sol8.

Thanks,
Wolfram.

Picard: lib# ffbconfig -dev /dev/ffb0 -prconf

--- Hardware Configuration for /dev/ffb0 ---
Type: double-buffered FFB2+ with Z-buffer
Board: rev 2 (Vertical)

FBC: version 0x3241906d
DAC: Brooktree 9070, version 1 (Pac2)
3DRAM: Mitsubishi 130a, version 1
EDID Data: Not Available
Monitor Sense ID: 7  (Unknown monitor type, defaulting to Sun 19" monitor)
Monitor possible resolution: 1152x900x66
Current resolution setting: 1600x1280x76 Hi-res

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Vincent Cojo » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Hello everyone,

        While we're on this subject.. I too have a Creator3D (rev3) but
the monitor on my Ultra2 is not a SUN Monitor (it's a high-end NEC
22" monitor capable of high-freq resolutions). However, since it's not a
SUN Monitor, ffbconfig thinks it can do much less that this monitor can
actually do:

--- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---
Type: double-buffered FFB1 with Z-buffer
Board: rev 3 (Speedsort)
PROM Information: Not Available
FBC: version 0x1
DAC: Brooktree 9068, version 4 (Pac1)
3DRAM: Mitsubishi 1308, version 5
EDID Data: Not Available
Monitor Sense ID: 6  (Sun monitor)
Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x77, 1024x800x84, 1152x900x66,
        1152x900x76, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 960x680x112s,
960x680x108s
Current resolution setting: 1152x900x76

So I get 76Hz. Is it possible to lead the Xserver into thinking that my
monitor can do 85Hz (yes it can, up to 1600x1200) or better? Is there a
monitor datafile to add in order to do this?



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> >I found all the models at skyblue - but if you want to use 1280x1024 and
> >85Hz/24Bit with a 21 inch Sun monitor (96kHz) - I cannot make it, even
> >with a creator 3d. It only works with 76Hz fine. With 85 Hz some lines
> >are moved to the left or to the right (maybe a 100 lines, it changes
> >dynamical every 2 to 10 seconds dependig on the mouse movements I make)
> >-  Any hints how it could work with 85Hz fine as well?

> 85Hz works fine on my Creator3D (FFB2+); this might be a problem with
> older ASICs or software, though I've never seen it on my U60 which is
> around 15 months old.

> --- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---
> Type: double-buffered FFB2+ with Z-buffer
> Board: rev 2 (Vertical)

> FBC: version 0x3241906d
> DAC: Brooktree 9070, version 1 (Pac2)
> 3DRAM: Mitsubishi 130a, version 1
> EDID Data: Available - EDID version 1 revision 1
> Monitor Sense ID: 4  (Sun 39x29cm RGB color monitor)
> Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
>    1024x768x77, 1024x800x84, 1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x800x76,
>    1280x1024x60, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 1280x1024x85,
>    960x680x112s, 960x680x108s, 640x480x60, 1440x900x76, 1600x1000x66,
>    1600x1000x76, 1920x1080x72, 1920x1200x70
> Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x85

> Casper
> --
> Expressed in this posting are my opinions.  They are in no way related
> to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
> Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
> be fiction rather than truth.

 
 
 

1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by Martin Pau » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>    While we're on this subject.. I too have a Creator3D (rev3) but
> the monitor on my Ultra2 is not a SUN Monitor (it's a high-end NEC
> 22" monitor capable of high-freq resolutions). However, since it's not a
> SUN Monitor, ffbconfig thinks it can do much less that this monitor can
> actually do:

> So I get 76Hz. Is it possible to lead the Xserver into thinking that my
> monitor can do 85Hz (yes it can, up to 1600x1200) or better? Is there a
> monitor datafile to add in order to do this?

AFAIK you can use ffbconfig to set any given resolution, not only
the ones it shows as supported by the monitor. Just use the '-nocheck'
option.  By using "-file machine" the OWconfig file in /etc/openwin
will be created/updated, so the settings persist across reboot.

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1600x1200 on Ultra 5/10?

Post by News Reade » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00




> >       While we're on this subject.. I too have a Creator3D (rev3) but
> > the monitor on my Ultra2 is not a SUN Monitor (it's a high-end NEC
> > 22" monitor capable of high-freq resolutions). However, since it's not a
> > SUN Monitor, ffbconfig thinks it can do much less that this monitor can
> > actually do:

> > So I get 76Hz. Is it possible to lead the Xserver into thinking that my
> > monitor can do 85Hz (yes it can, up to 1600x1200) or better? Is there a
> > monitor datafile to add in order to do this?

> AFAIK you can use ffbconfig to set any given resolution, not only
> the ones it shows as supported by the monitor. Just use the '-nocheck'
> option.  By using "-file machine" the OWconfig file in /etc/openwin
> will be created/updated, so the settings persist across reboot.

Unfortunately this is still mimited to the resolutions ffbconfig knows about.
on my machine (Sol8, U10, Creator 3D) it is not willing to support 1600x1280
at more than 76 Hz (allthough the monitor could handle up to 90 Hz).

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