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Hi!

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Solaris 2.8/SPARC with a US/UNIX keyboard, Xsun uses a german keyboard
layout (for example, 'y' and 'z' swapped) _after_ user login (_before_
login, e.g. at dtlogin screen and console (correctly) uses US/UNIX
keyboard layout).
I've ran Richard L. Hamilton's nice keyboard debugging tool (see
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vsuaheef8bmm9b%40corp.supernews....)
and got the following output:
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% cc xxx.c
"xxx.c", line 127: warning: implicit function declaration: ioctl
"xxx.c", line 157: warning: implicit function declaration: close

translation mode: TR_UNTRANS_EVENT
keyboard type: KB_SUN4 4
keyboard layout: 34
compatibility mode: on
key table file: US_UNIX5.kt
-- snip --

Then I modified "keyboard.map" logged out, restarted dtlogin and
logged-in - no change.

Then I modified "keyboard.map" the hard way, replacing any "*German*"
entries like this:
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% gdiff -u keytable.map.original keytable.map
--- keytable.map.original       Mon Nov 24 02:04:45 2003

 4      2       FranceBelg4.kt
 4      3       Canada4.kt
 4      4       Denmark4.kt
-4      5       Germany4.kt
+4      5       US_UNIX5.kt
 4      6       Italy4.kt
 4      7       Netherland4.kt

 4      34      US_UNIX5.kt
 4      35      France5.kt
 4      36      Denmark5.kt
-4      37      Germany5.kt
+4      37      US_UNIX5.kt
 4      38      Italy5.kt
 4      39      Netherland5.kt

 4      81      US_UNIX5_Hobo.kt        # UNIX layout for Hobo keyboard
 4      82      France5_Hobo.kt
 4      83      Denmark5_Hobo.kt
-4      84      Germany5_Hobo.kt
+4      84      US_UNIX5.kt
 4      85      Italy5_Hobo.kt
 4      86      Netherland5_Hobo.kt

 101    34      J3100_x86.kt
 101    35      France_x86.kt
 101    36      Denmark_x86.kt
-101    37      Germany_x86.kt
+101    37      US_UNIX5.kt
 101    38      Italy_x86.kt
 101    39      Netherland_x86.kt

 6      6       Denmark6.kt
 6      7       Finnish6.kt
 6      8       France6.kt
-6      9       Germany6.kt
+6      9       US_UNIX5.kt
 6      14      Italy6.kt
 6      15      Japan6.kt
 6      16      Korea6.kt
-- snip --
... but no change - 'y' and 'z' are still swapped and now keys like "#"
generate beeps instead of any chars (neither wrong nor the correct
ones).

I've been trying to get rid of the problem for several weekends without
success... HEEEEELLLPP...

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Bye,
Roland

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You wouldn't happen to have a $HOME/.keytable or anything in any
dotfiles running xmodmap would you?  Normally, Xsun only checks for
keyboard layout & keytables at startup time.

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~/.Xdefaults contains:
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consed*background: blue
# dtpad*standAlone: true
dtpad*statusLine: true
#
# enable tear-offs for dtfile
# due the fact that "dtfile*tearOffModel: tear_off_enabled" doesn't work
# well with popups we enable them in a per-menu manner:
Dtfile*fileMenu.tearOffModel:      tear_off_enabled
Dtfile*actionMenu.tearOffModel:    tear_off_enabled
Dtfile*viewMenu.tearOffModel:      tear_off_enabled
Dtfile*helpMenu.tearOffModel:      tear_off_enabled
Dtfile*fileMenuTrash.tearOffModel: tear_off_enabled
Dtfile*helpMenuTrash.tearOffModel: tear_off_enabled
# ensure that all session parameters will be saved...
Dtsession*queryServerSettings: true
# enable action logging
*executionHostLogging: true
# allow xterm/dtterm to be controlled via xvkbd
Xterm*allowSendEvents: true
Dtterm*allowSendEvents: true
#
Sdtimage*tearOffModel: tear_off_enabled
Sdtperfmeter*collectWhenIconized: true
# Fix for Nedit 5.2 visual selection bug
nedit*visualID: Default
# EOF.
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Even expliclity enabling/disabling (+kb/-kb) the XKEYBOARD extension
doesn't change the mind of Xsun... still on *... ;-(

Quote:> Normally, Xsun only checks for
> keyboard layout & keytables at startup time.

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Bye,
Roland

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Try loggin in as another user and see if the problem persists.

You can also as a test try a non-graphical session, as that will use
another set of translation tables (/usr/share/lib/keytables).

I say this is most likely something in the users environment messing
up the keyboard.

You will, AFAIK, use the same tables both at the dtlogin screen and
after login, unless the user has a personal .keytable or mucks with
xmodmap.

Quote:

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> Bye,
> Roland

Removing that line cured the problem...

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Bye,
Roland

P.S:: Any idea which application has set that line ?

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Apparently dtsession will write that out when saving your session
settings if the "queryServerSettings" resource is true.  I never knew it
did that.

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