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Hi,

I'd like to know whether it's possible to connect an internal IDE Zip drive
from Iomega into a Sun Ultra 10 WorkStation running Solaris 2.6.

Has anybody tried it yet ?

Thanks for your answers !

Jacques-Olivier

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: Since there's no IDE interface card for the SBUS (or I could be wrong
: on this, but then WHY would a company make such a beast), I would say
: NO.  Buy the SCSI version which runs on a MAC.  That should work.
: Or the ZIP+.

        The Ultra 10 uses an IDE disk interface so the original
question is a reasonable one.  Unfortunately, since Solaris x86
doesn't support IDE Zip drives it's almost certain that the SPARC
version doesn't either.  I assume no removable IDE devices of any sort
are supported.  One wonders if this is planned for 2.7....

James

Quote:>Hi,

>I'd like to know whether it's possible to connect an internal IDE Zip drive
>from Iomega into a Sun Ultra 10 WorkStation running Solaris 2.6.

>Has anybody tried it yet ?

Should someone from Sun (or someone interested in writing a device
driver) want to see the kernel core image from such a crash, feel
free to contact me.

We are quite interested in having zip drives working on our Ultra 10's.
Specifically we would like to have it supported by volmgt and be able
to access FAT (and VFAT) filesystems.  UFS would also be nice, but
students that take their zip disks home are mostly running Windows or
some other OS that can recognize FAT filesystems.  Please, Sun?

I hear that the SCSI zip drives do work, but have not yet verfied it.
One of the key reasons for buying the Ultra 10 is for the price... if
I have to buy a SCSI card to use a zip drive, I lose a huge part of
the savings.

Mike

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Michael Gerdts
UNIX Systems Administrator
Computer-Aided Engineering Center
University of Wisconsin - Madison

From IOMega Site:
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How do I install my Zip Drive on a Sun Workstation?

This document applies to the following:

                       Operating System : UNIX
                       Device Type : Zip 100 SCSI
                       Software Version : UNIX

This document contains the steps that are needed to install an Iomega drive
onto a SUN Workstation.

Supported Drives:
The Zip 100 SCSI drive is supported on the following Operating Systems using
the built-in drivers, which are
not provided nor supported by Iomega. Zip disks can not be formatted using
these Operating Only standard,
non-write protected disks can be used.

    SunOS 4.1.1
    SunOS 4.1.2
    Solaris 2.0

How do I install my Iomega drive?
Set the SCSI ID Switch...
For SunOS 4.1.1, 4.1.2, or 4.1.3, use SCSI ID 0, 1, or 2. Be sure to select
an unused setting. For Solaris 2.0, SCSI
IDs 3 & 7 are reserved, use any other unused SCSI ID setting.

Attach the Iomega Drive to your SCSI adapter or chain..
Create a Device Entry Point (For Solaris 2.0 only). After attaching the
Iomega device and starting your
SPARCstation, enter the following command at the OK prompt: boot -r

Entries for format.dat...
Enter the appropriate entry into the /etc/format.dat file. Use the system
editor and be careful not to change
other file entries. The entries are case sensitive!

Solaris 2.0;

 disk_type="Zip 100"\
             :ctlr=SCSI\
             :ncyl=2406:acyl=2:pcyl=2408:nhead=2\
             :nsect=40:rpm=3600:bpt=20480
 partition="Zip 100"\
             :disk="Zip 100":ctlr=SCSI\
             :2=0,192480
             :2=0,1159168

SunOS 4.1.1, 4.1.2, 4.1.3 (for SunOS 4.1.1, replace the controller type SCSI
with MD21)

 disk_type="Zip 100"\
             :ctlr=SCSI\
             :ncyl=2406:acyl=2:pcyl=2408:nhead=2\
             :nsect=40:rpm=3600:bpt=20480
 partition="Zip 100"\
             :disk="Zip 100":ctlr=SCSI\
             :c=0,192480:2=0,192480

Data Disk Preparation Procedure:

  1.Insert the correct Iomega disk in the Iomega drive prior to booting the
SPARCstation.
  2.Run the SunOS format program at the # prompt type: format
    Note: In the following examples, X represents the sd number shown on
your monitor for the drive that
    contains the working disk.
  3.Select the sd number related to the drive that contains the disk you are
formatting. If the disk has never
    been formatted, the program should enter the Drive Type menu. Select the
appropriate disk type from
    the list.
  4.Use the partition sub-command to choose the partition information.
  5.Use the print option to verify the existence of the C partition.
  6.Use the label sub-command to write a label on the disk
  7.Use the quit command twice to exit the format program.
  8.Run the newfs utility to make a file system on the disk. At the # prompt
type:newfs -v /dev/rsdXc

Using a Disk:

  1.After the file system has been placed on the disk, you can mount it into
the UNIX file system. (Replace
    mount_point with an appropriate mountable directory eg. /mnt). At the #
prompt type:mount /dev/sdXc
    /mount_point
  2.When you are through using the disk, it can be removed from the UNIX
file system. At the # prompt
    type: umount /dev/sdXc or: umount /mount_point
  3.To check the file system, make sure the disk is not mounted and use the
fsck command. At the # prompt
    type:fsck /dev/rsdXc

I have tried this but we opted for DVD and optical drives instead of Zips.

Robert Artusy
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 > How do I install my Zip Drive on a Sun Workstation?

 > This document applies to the following:
 >
 >                        Operating System : UNIX
 >                        Device Type : Zip 100 SCSI
 >                        Software Version : UNIX

Good information except that the drive in question is an IDE internal
Zip drive, and the system in question is an Ultra 10, which doesn't have
SCSI (see the subject header if you don't believe me :).

AFAIK, IDE/ATAPI Zip drives only work in PCs. They're ATAPI "floppy"
devices. Sun's implementation of EIDE is only guaranteed to work with
the 4.2GB hard drives and 32X CDROM drives you can buy with the systems.

I really don't know why Sun went with EIDE. They had to develop an
entire EIDE implementation and interface for the SPARC, and the price
difference between the low-speed crappy EIDE drives they put in the
systems and the same level SCSI drives is about $30.

Is it possible to mount this drive from Solaris?

-Vlad