ZFS not available yet?

ZFS not available yet?

Post by Dragan Cvetkovi » Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:45:18



       Hi,

I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
introduced in SE program?

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ZFS not available yet?

Post by Scott Howar » Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:46:01



Quote:> I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
> introduced in SE program?

It's still coming - possibly SX 08/04

  Scott

 
 
 

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Post by Casper H.S. Di » Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:22:31



>I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
>introduced in SE program?

Not in s10_58.  Patience.

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Post by Alan Coopersmit » Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:36:38



|I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
|introduced in SE program?

"in the second half of this year"
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Post by Joerg Schilli » Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:22:08




Quote:>       Hi,

>I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
>introduced in SE program?

From a note in Heise.de http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/47954
ZFS will never be released.....

Sun will publish DFS instead ;-)

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Post by Joerg Schilli » Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:28:37





>|I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
>|introduced in SE program?

>"in the second half of this year"

Being logically correct, this will become true in 20 days..... ;-)

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Post by Roland Main » Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:10:36



> >I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
> >introduced in SE program?

> From a note in Heise.de http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/47954
> ZFS will never be released.....

> Sun will publish DFS instead ;-)

Isn't "DFS" already used by IBM's "Distributed File System" ? I am sure
IBM's lawyers will be happy to get new work... =:-)

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Post by Markus Gyg » Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:14:59



> Isn't "DFS" already used by IBM's "Distributed File System" ?

Sun seems to call it "Dynamic FS" though...

Markus

 
 
 

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Post by Casper H.S. Di » Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:26:17




>> >I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
>> >introduced in SE program?

>> From a note in Heise.de http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/47954
>> ZFS will never be released.....

>> Sun will publish DFS instead ;-)
>Isn't "DFS" already used by IBM's "Distributed File System" ? I am sure
>IBM's lawyers will be happy to get new work... =:-)

I think the same holds true for all single letter filesystems
(I'm sure there's even more than one DFS).

The official name marketing came up with is "Dynamic FS", not DFS.

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Post by Rich Tee » Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:41:19



> (I'm sure there's even more than one DFS).

Yes, ISTR an alternative to NFS called DFS, a few years back when
I worked at ICL.

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Post by Alan Coopersmit » Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:03:20






|>|I can't find any mentioning of zfs in s10_58. When is it going to be
|>|introduced in SE program?
|>
|>"in the second half of this year"
|
|Being logically correct, this will become true in 20 days..... ;-)

Or it could not be released for another 199 days and still be true.
The planned release is somewhere between those extremes, but I can't
narrow it down more than that.

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Post by Alan Coopersmit » Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:08:09



|I think the same holds true for all single letter filesystems
|(I'm sure there's even more than one DFS).

I know it's annoying to do searches for "xfs" (the X Font Server) and
keep hitting "xfs" (SGI's file system for Irix & Linux).  But with more
than 26 file systems in existence, it's impossible to avoid collisions
unless you go beyond the ASCII character set or just don't use the
three-letter acronym to refer to it.  (For instance, I don't think I've
ever heard anyone use "RFS" to refer to ReiserFS - but then perhaps
enough people remembered the original SysV RFS.)

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Post by Thomas Na » Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:48:43



| |I think the same holds true for all single letter filesystems
| |(I'm sure there's even more than one DFS).
|
| I know it's annoying to do searches for "xfs" (the X Font Server) and
| keep hitting "xfs" (SGI's file system for Irix & Linux).  But with more
| than 26 file systems in existence, it's impossible to avoid collisions
| unless you go beyond the ASCII character set or just don't use the
| three-letter acronym to refer to it.  (For instance, I don't think I've
| ever heard anyone use "RFS" to refer to ReiserFS - but then perhaps
| enough people remembered the original SysV RFS.)

Hmm, ZFS would have fit into the scheme without collision at least none I
would know of. But then some droids came along and 'found' a new name...
Haven't seen the commands yet but it's probably safe to assume that the
Solaris commands to manage start with a 'z' and not with a 'd'

Sometimes I get the impression that those droids get payed by RPMs
(renames per month)

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Post by M?rten Svantess » Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:43:06




> |I think the same holds true for all single letter filesystems
> |(I'm sure there's even more than one DFS).

> I know it's annoying to do searches for "xfs" (the X Font Server) and
> keep hitting "xfs" (SGI's file system for Irix & Linux). But with more
> than 26 file systems in existence, it's impossible to avoid collisions
> unless you go beyond the ASCII character set or just don't use the
> three-letter acronym to refer to it.  (For instance, I don't think I've
> ever heard anyone use "RFS" to refer to ReiserFS - but then perhaps
> enough people remembered the original SysV RFS.)

It's shows good judgement from the arla team that they renamed their
kernel module from xfs ("eXtensible file system") to nnpfs. ;)
Unfortunately the web is still littered with remnants from before the
change...

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Post by Alan Coopersmit » Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:30:45



|Hmm, ZFS would have fit into the scheme without collision at least none I
|would know of.

Do a google search for "ZFS" - two other filesystems show up on the
first page of results alone.

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