Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Rich Tee » Sun, 29 May 2005 07:30:03



Hi all,

Seeing my wife's shiny new(ish) 18.1" LCD monitor has got me
thinking that I need to treat myself to a new monitor or two.
I like the crisp display and low power cunsumption (and weight!)
of LCD monitors, so that's what I'm looking at.

I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
be enough.

Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

Thanks for all the input,

--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Elia » Sun, 29 May 2005 08:35:00



> Hi all,

> Seeing my wife's shiny new(ish) 18.1" LCD monitor has got me
> thinking that I need to treat myself to a new monitor or two.
> I like the crisp display and low power cunsumption (and weight!)
> of LCD monitors, so that's what I'm looking at.

> I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
> question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
> 24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
> I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
> be enough.

> Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
> goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
> seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

> Thanks for all the input,

I had the opportunity to bring one of the 24" LCDs home for a few days
and all I can say is, wow it's really nice.  I prefer the one monitor
approach as you don't need to setup xinerama and don't have the
dividing line between the two screens.  It's just works and is seamless.

Elias

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Dan Espe » Sun, 29 May 2005 08:49:50



> Hi all,

> Seeing my wife's shiny new(ish) 18.1" LCD monitor has got me
> thinking that I need to treat myself to a new monitor or two.
> I like the crisp display and low power cunsumption (and weight!)
> of LCD monitors, so that's what I'm looking at.

> I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
> question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
> 24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
> I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
> be enough.

> Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
> goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
> seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

Unless you have money to burn, go with the DELL 24 inch.
Almost half the cost.

If I hadn't recently bought the DELL 21 inch I'd definitely
go for the DELL 24.  I absolutely love the DELL 21 inch.

I've got a Sun 21 inch CRT at work and it doesn't even come close
to this for clarity.

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by KJ » Sun, 29 May 2005 09:38:31




>>Hi all,

>>Seeing my wife's shiny new(ish) 18.1" LCD monitor has got me
>>thinking that I need to treat myself to a new monitor or two.
>>I like the crisp display and low power cunsumption (and weight!)
>>of LCD monitors, so that's what I'm looking at.

>>I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
>>question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
>>24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
>>I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
>>be enough.

>>Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
>>goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
>>seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

> Unless you have money to burn, go with the DELL 24 inch.
> Almost half the cost.

> If I hadn't recently bought the DELL 21 inch I'd definitely
> go for the DELL 24.  I absolutely love the DELL 21 inch.

> I've got a Sun 21 inch CRT at work and it doesn't even come close
> to this for clarity.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=product...

no mention of the pixel size on the Dell "ultrasharp".  any idea of the
pixel size?

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Dan Espe » Sun, 29 May 2005 12:44:19





>>>Hi all,

>>>Seeing my wife's shiny new(ish) 18.1" LCD monitor has got me
>>>thinking that I need to treat myself to a new monitor or two.
>>>I like the crisp display and low power cunsumption (and weight!)
>>>of LCD monitors, so that's what I'm looking at.

>>>I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
>>>question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
>>>24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
>>>I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
>>>be enough.

>>>Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
>>>goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
>>>seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

>> Unless you have money to burn, go with the DELL 24 inch.
>> Almost half the cost.

>> If I hadn't recently bought the DELL 21 inch I'd definitely
>> go for the DELL 24.  I absolutely love the DELL 21 inch.

>> I've got a Sun 21 inch CRT at work and it doesn't even come close
>> to this for clarity.
> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=product...

> no mention of the pixel size on the Dell "ultrasharp".  any idea of the
> pixel size?

Is that the same as pixel pitch? (.27mm):

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2405fpw/English/about.htm

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Matt » Sun, 29 May 2005 12:52:13



> Hi all,

> Seeing my wife's shiny new(ish) 18.1" LCD monitor has got me
> thinking that I need to treat myself to a new monitor or two.
> I like the crisp display and low power cunsumption (and weight!)
> of LCD monitors, so that's what I'm looking at.

> I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
> question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
> 24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
> I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
> be enough.

> Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
> goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
> seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

> Thanks for all the input,

I can't speak to the Sun LCDs, but I adore my Apple 23" cinema display.
It makes coding and surfing tons of fun! :)
 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by I R A Darth Agg » Sun, 29 May 2005 13:08:19


30" Apple LCD. If you can afford it, and you can drive it in all it's
full glory of 2560x1600.

I have neither the means or hardware to do it. But it's still
drool-worthy.

James
--
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow
isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated.

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Bruno Delbon » Sun, 29 May 2005 16:12:05


Hi Rich,



Quote:> Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
> goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
> seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

Don't waste money on Sun LCD's. They are too expensive (what's new!) and  
you'll probably need a $99/yr contract just to look at the specs </end  
sarcasm>. I bought a BenQ FP231W from FutureShop locally for CAD 1399  
which does 1920x1200 over DVI and analog. It's gorgeous!!

http://www.benq.ca/Products/LCD/index.cfm?product=435
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_...

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Logan Sha » Sun, 29 May 2005 16:56:21



> Seeing my wife's shiny new(ish) 18.1" LCD monitor has got me
> thinking that I need to treat myself to a new monitor or two.
> I like the crisp display and low power cunsumption (and weight!)
> of LCD monitors, so that's what I'm looking at.

> I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
> question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
> 24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
> I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
> be enough.

I recently upgraded from an aging 21" CRT to a new 21" LCD.

The interesting thing is, despite them both being nominally '21"'
monitors, the new LCD is actually about 1.5" larger in actual
monitor area.  And that doesn't count the *truly* viewable
area, because on the CRT, the edges of the picture are not
exactly straight and not exactly square, so I have to give it
about a 1/4" safety margin on all sides so that I can see the
whole thing from all reasonable angles; whereas, on the LCD,
the picture goes RIGHT up to the edge of the display -- I mean
about 1/8" away.

The next result is that the actual image you see on the screen
is nearly 2" larger on the '21"' LCD than it is on the '21"' CRT.

Add to that the the LCD doesn't flicker at all, and I feel fine
running it at full resolution, whereas I was never happy running
my CRT at 1600x1200 because the refresh rate wasn't good enough.

Anyway, the point is that a LCD actually gives you a tad more
real estate, and (if your eyes are good), things are much sharper,
so you can stand using a bit smaller font in some cases, making
the real estate you have more helpful.

The other point is that the LCD got is a Samsung 213T, and I
*really* like it.  Right now, they have a rebate, and at
newegg.com (for example), they are only $570 after rebate.
For that price, you really could get two and not feel bad
about having spent the money.  They even swivel 90 degrees,
so that you could put them both in portrait mode next to each
other if you wished.  (However, the OS has to support this.
I tried it with Mac OS X and found that, while it does support
it, it's VERY slow to do screen updates, so it's totally not
worth it.)

If you are interested in the Samsung 213T, be forewarned about
one thing:  the rebate form says the rebate takes 10-12 weeks
instead of the usual 4-6 or 6-8, and from what I can tell,
they're absolutely not exaggerating.  My $100 rebate has been
in the "processing" stage (according to the tracking web site)
for something like 2 months now.  (I have a feeling they just
process everything, then intentionally wait 10 weeks and accrue
some interest on the money, then send out the checks...)

   - Logan

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by KJ » Mon, 30 May 2005 00:15:53






>>>>Hi all,

>>>>Seeing my wife's shiny new(ish) 18.1" LCD monitor has got me
>>>>thinking that I need to treat myself to a new monitor or two.
>>>>I like the crisp display and low power cunsumption (and weight!)
>>>>of LCD monitors, so that's what I'm looking at.

>>>>I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
>>>>question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
>>>>24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
>>>>I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
>>>>be enough.

>>>>Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
>>>>goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
>>>>seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

>>>Unless you have money to burn, go with the DELL 24 inch.
>>>Almost half the cost.

>>>If I hadn't recently bought the DELL 21 inch I'd definitely
>>>go for the DELL 24.  I absolutely love the DELL 21 inch.

>>>I've got a Sun 21 inch CRT at work and it doesn't even come close
>>>to this for clarity.

>>http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=product...

>>no mention of the pixel size on the Dell "ultrasharp".  any idea of the
>>pixel size?

> Is that the same as pixel pitch? (.27mm):

> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2405fpw/English/about.htm

Yep, same thing.  That should be nice at .270mm and is tighter than my
current Samsung SyncMaster 191T (19" LCD w/ .29mm pitch), although the
contrast ratio of the Dell at only 500:1 isn't anything to write home about.

I will concur with the other poster about Apple's displays.  Very Nice!

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Barbie LeVil » Mon, 30 May 2005 00:50:54


On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:30:03 GMT


> I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
> question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
> 24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
> I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
> be enough.

> Sun's current 19" LCD monitor is out of the question as it only
> goes up to 1280x1024, and a 1600x1280-capable 21" one doesn't
> seem to be forthcoming from them.  :-(

Well, i use a 24" monitor here, at work i had dual 22" running.
I prefere the single large 24", simply because, no annoying split
of the screen area in the middle of it.
Plus, widescreen aspect is imo underrated by most people, it makes the
whole screen feel much larger then it actually is.
The Sun 24" is a very sweet monitor indeed, have ssen it live.

I would go with a single larger monitor, then two smaller ones.

--
Barbie - Prayers are like junkmail for Jesus

I have seen things you lusers would not believe.
I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab.
I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate.
All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last
week. Time to die.

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Ade Fewing » Mon, 30 May 2005 02:00:01


Quote:> I currently have two 21" CRTs, each running at 1600x1280.  My
> question is: what do people who have compared them think of Sun's
> 24.1" widescreen LCD monitor vs (say) a pair of Samsung 21"s?
> I like a lot of screen space, so one 21" monitor probably wouldn;t
> be enough.

I get to compare the Sun 24" and the older Sun 18" TFTs on a daily
basis.  Whilst I believe the statistics suggest the 24" to have a better
display quality, I often end up thinking that the 18"s are nicer to look
at for extended periods.  I'm thinking in terms of definition and color
quality primarily.  Then again, having 1920x1200 pixels is nice,
particularly when editing a few pieces of code simultaneously or
monitoring a load of machines in Ganglia.  Also, the 24" here is one of
the first ones, back when it was brand new I think, so is getting on a
bit now - although I wouldn't expect it to 'age' and it is of the same
vintage as the 18".  I'd probably really miss it if it went away.

Makes for a hell of a KDE backdrop, though........  :-)

Ade

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Dan Espe » Mon, 30 May 2005 04:57:56





>>>no mention of the pixel size on the Dell "ultrasharp".  any idea of the
>>>pixel size?

>> Is that the same as pixel pitch? (.27mm):

>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2405fpw/English/about.htm
> Yep, same thing.  That should be nice at .270mm and is tighter than my
> current Samsung SyncMaster 191T (19" LCD w/ .29mm pitch), although the
> contrast ratio of the Dell at only 500:1 isn't anything to write home about.

OK, the dot pitch on the DELL 2100FP is .255, (I knew those were really tiny
pixels).

The contrast ratio on the 2100FP is only 400:1.  I noticed that right away.
It's nowhere close to a CRT.  At first I thought it might bother me but
I've stopped noticing it.  The brilliant colors and steadyness of the
image more than make up for it.

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Rich Tee » Mon, 30 May 2005 11:37:08



> I had the opportunity to bring one of the 24" LCDs home for a few days
> and all I can say is, wow it's really nice.  I prefer the one monitor
> approach as you don't need to setup xinerama and don't have the
> dividing line between the two screens.  It's just works and is seamless.

Yes, it's that which is making me lean towards the one biggun approach.
Thanks everyone for your thoughts and comments!

--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

 
 
 

Thoughts: 24.1" vs 2 x 21" monitors

Post by Rich Tee » Mon, 30 May 2005 11:39:07



> Unless you have money to burn, go with the DELL 24 inch.
> Almost half the cost.

I don't have money to burn (but I wish that I did!), but I couldn't
get a Dull one: it just wouldn't be right...

Quote:> I've got a Sun 21 inch CRT at work and it doesn't even come close
> to this for clarity.

I believe you: my wife's LCDs (and the one on this Ferrari laptop) are
better than my CRTs.  The colour is better on them too..

--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich