Very Computer

I have read and performed as per Celleste's excellent guide, but still once I have
configured and enabled the monitor, I cannot dial out.  To add insult to injury, the *y thing doesn't give me a login when I dial in either! (On the protocol analyser, I can see the CD go up, but no login message).

The port works fine as a dial out (disable the bidirectional stuff).  If there is some magic in STTY settings, I have yet to find it.

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Richard Paton

I apologise for impuning Sun's good name by suggesting that bidirectional modem
control didn't work on x86.  I have got it to work by removing the module-load
declaration from:

pmadm -a -p rpmon -s tty$PORT -i root -v `ttyadm -V` -fu -m \
"`ttyadm -b -d /dev/term/$PORT -s /usr/bin/login -l  $TTYSPEED \
-S n -m ldterm,ttcompat`" -y "dial in/out on serial port"
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

making it

pmadm -a -p rpmon -s tty$PORT -i root -v `ttyadm -V` -fu -m \
"`ttyadm -b -d /dev/term/$PORT -s /usr/bin/login -l  $TTYSPEED \
-S n `" -y "dial in/out on serial port"

If you don't do this, it won't work.  Perhaps the answerbook could be fixed instead.

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Richard Paton

However, another logged problem :-
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1150795  asy    N/A        x86                                    12/01/93
Description:  Bi-directional modems not working on X86
Status 12/02/93:  Rono has been assigned
Status 12/09/93:  Working with customer to replicate problem
Status 12/17/93:  Still having problems replicating it.
Status 01/13/94:  Ron and John Stossel are scheduled to go to customer site
                  next week to look at problem.
Status 01/20/94:  Closed as not a Bug

*****
It seems that this is not a bug but an installation problem.

Quote:> Has anyone got bidirectional serial ports going with x86?  Does anyone know whether SUN recognises that it's broken?  Is there a patch?  
> I have read and performed as per Celleste's excellent guide, but still once I have
> configured and enabled the monitor, I cannot dial out.  To add insult to injury, the *y thing doesn't give me a login when I dial in either! (On the protocol analyser, I can see the CD go up, but no login message).
> The port works fine as a dial out (disable the bidirectional stuff).  If there is some magic in STTY settings, I have yet to find it.

> ---
> Richard Paton

I think that sloppy serial ports are one of those things that sun is in
self denial over. (Like the cursor tur-dettes, some `little' problems
have always been there, probably aways will be...)

I did add a patch, 101196, which I thought was supposed to add modem flow
control. It didn't _appear_ to because I had tremendous problems receiving
files via uucp. And, as you point out, I couldn't take incoming calls.

I did create the port monitor with a script from the faq and it did work
okay for outgoing calls except there was no flow control, BUT ...

Using Sun's uucp, a downstream partner kept telling me I was sending half
empty packets! (G protocol, 2048 bytes) I never heard of such a thing, (but
that doesn't mean much. :-) And when receiving, I got packet read errors
almost all the time.

God, do I feel good! I have completely trashed x86's serial driver and uucp
and replaced them with a Digiboard 2Port and Taylor uucp and FINALLY I

EVERYTHING WORKS!

Even my port monitor works bi-direcitionally now!

Spending more money may not be the answer that you want to hear, but none
of it went to Sun! I payed low 200's for the 2port board and FTP'd the
driver from Digi ... I net-surfed for Taylor, that was free.

BTW: On my UnixWare box, I installed the freeware SAS 16550 serial drivers,
they seem to work well (to about 38.4k, anyway,) but I haven't found a port
of that package to x86...

When I installed Taylor uucp, I started sending `full' packets and my
downstream partner at speeds up to 2000 bytes/second, basically
his full DTE speed. (The 2port board claims to be good up to 115 kilobaud,
but I've nothing yet to test that claim.)

There maybe more patches-etc for all these problems but it has been
_extremely_ difficult for me to get any stuff from Sun.

In print, Sun is really pushing the new x86 release. I hope it lives up
to half of the press. But reading all the posts from the 2.3 guys over
the past months, I know I won't be first on my block to update ...

 - Ed.

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  Ed Taychert   | Disclaimer:  I pay for the machine, I pay for the

<Large amounts of stuff about x86's pile for serial I/O deleted>

Quote:>In print, Sun is really pushing the new x86 release. I hope it lives up
>to half of the press. But reading all the posts from the 2.3 guys over
>the past months, I know I won't be first on my block to update ...

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David Holland

Tonights forcast: Increasing dark, with dark continuing through out the night.

I have pulled several different Solaris xv binaries off several places
on the net and all of them segmentation fault when I run them with
the "-nopos" option (which I want to do because xv and tvtwm don't
interact well otherwise). Is this some idiosyncrasy with my machine,
or does everyone else have the same problem?

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