solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Le-Chin Eugene L » Wed, 19 Jul 1995 04:00:00



I am interested in hearing your experience on upgrading solaris 2.3 to
2.4. I heard from a few people at the Sun Solaris Admin class that
upgrading from 2.3 to 2.4 was not very smooth and caused them a lot of
trouble at the time. I was wondering if things have been improved.
Would you share your story? Thanks.

-Phil

 
 
 

solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Jay Sco » Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:00:00




Quote:

>I am interested in hearing your experience on upgrading solaris 2.3 to
>2.4. I heard from a few people at the Sun Solaris Admin class that
>upgrading from 2.3 to 2.4 was not very smooth and caused them a lot of
>trouble at the time. I was wondering if things have been improved.
>Would you share your story? Thanks.

>-Phil

        If your machine is small, you're likely to escape unscathed.
I have large machines, and did an unscientific survey of other large
machines, and only one claimed to have accomplished an upgrade.  There
are about half a dozen ways the upgrade is broken, some of them are
readily fixable, some aren't.
        So I'm forced to reinstall.  Given Sun's woeful performance
on the 2.2 to 2.3 upgrade, and since this one is clearly non-functional
also, I'm planning now to be forced to reinstall when 2.5 comes out.

        Of course, if your machine is just a workstation, you're
probably ok.
j.
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University of Texas at Austin

 
 
 

solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Rob McMah » Fri, 21 Jul 1995 04:00:00



Quote:Scott) writes:
>If your machine is small, you're likely to escape unscathed.  I have large
>machines, and did an unscientific survey of other large machines, and only
>one claimed to have accomplished an upgrade.

Hmm, I sucessfully upgraded 5 of our bigger multi-user machines from 2.3 to
2.4 with nothing insurmountable.  The only two major problems I had were with
an FDDI/3.0 card that didn't want to play until a patch was installed, and an
install that bombed out if I tried to delete packages from the upgrade (but
worked if I removed the packages before the installation.  YMMV.

Cheers,

Rob
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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Le-Chin Eugene L » Fri, 21 Jul 1995 04:00:00






>>I am interested in hearing your experience on upgrading solaris 2.3 to
>>2.4. I heard from a few people at the Sun Solaris Admin class that
>>upgrading from 2.3 to 2.4 was not very smooth and caused them a lot of
>>trouble at the time. I was wondering if things have been improved.
>>Would you share your story? Thanks.

>>-Phil

>    If your machine is small, you're likely to escape unscathed.
>I have large machines, and did an unscientific survey of other large
>machines, and only one claimed to have accomplished an upgrade.  There
>are about half a dozen ways the upgrade is broken, some of them are
>readily fixable, some aren't.
>    So I'm forced to reinstall.  Given Sun's woeful performance
>on the 2.2 to 2.3 upgrade, and since this one is clearly non-functional
>also, I'm planning now to be forced to reinstall when 2.5 comes out.

>    Of course, if your machine is just a workstation, you're
>probably ok.
>j.
>--
>Jay Scott           512-835-3553

>Applied Research Labs, Computer Science Div.
>University of Texas at Austin

This is exactly what I am afraid of. We have SPARCserver 100E with 4 cpus,
480 MB memory, a 20GB file system mounted (RAID 5). Sounds like we are out
of luck. I really don't think reinstall is gonna cut it for us since we
have too narrow a time window to do it that way. Thanks for the input. This
does confirm what I heard.

-Phil

 
 
 

solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Andrew R. Tef » Sat, 22 Jul 1995 04:00:00


We had some sort of corruption in our pkg files which caused the 2.3 to
2.4 upgrade to fail miserably. The resulting corruption from that forced
us to restore from backup.

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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Michael Mcknig » Mon, 24 Jul 1995 04:00:00



: I am interested in hearing your experience on upgrading solaris 2.3 to
: 2.4. I heard from a few people at the Sun Solaris Admin class that
: upgrading from 2.3 to 2.4 was not very smooth and caused them a lot of
: trouble at the time. I was wondering if things have been improved.
: Would you share your story? Thanks.

It probably depends on your environment, but my upgrade was seemless.
I had to re-modify a couple of system files, but for the most part,
things went along nicely.

Just be sure to back up first.  And maybe make hard copies of
important system files.

-Michael McKnight

 
 
 

solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Richard Pier » Tue, 25 Jul 1995 04:00:00



Quote:>>> I am interested in hearing your experience on upgrading solaris 2.3
>>> to 2.4. I heard from a few people at the Sun Solaris Admin class
>>> that upgrading from 2.3 to 2.4 was not very smooth and caused them a
>>> lot of trouble at the time. I was wondering if things have been
>>> improved. Would you share your story? Thanks.

I upgraded my SparcClassic from 2.3 to 2.4 about a month.5 ago, with
absolutely no problems whatsoever.

One caveat: make sure you have a *lot* of space free on your /opt
partition. The upgrade needs to move a lot of stuff around and that's
where it wants to do it's work.

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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Frank Wey » Wed, 26 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Hello Sunners all over the world,

Here is my upgrade story.........

Configuration : 1 SS20 256M (NIS+ server), 3 SS2 64M.

After a Total of 24 hours .... Everything works fine except
the automounter on the SS20... :-(

Comments :

Make A GOOD backup before you start.
Disconnect the router if your on a subnet ( otherwise you lose maybe some mail)
Printout every systemfile in /etc & if possible cp them to an preserved disk.
( Dont forget the rcx.d/* files ......)
Don't forget restoring your Calendars and mailboxes /var/mail, etc
The upgrade option didn't work ......
Never Panic, everything is fixable.....
Dump your nistables to /etc/formats, just in Case off.......
Get the recommended patchluster......

Get Proctool 2.4.2 and See a performance increase about 15% .......

It was heavy but I succeeded, The main fault I made was the following.....
only root could login after the the first installation, I thought it were
the credentials of nisplus but it was the automounter....

He gave even errors after an sys-unconfig .... Couldn't create SVC_tli (some thing
like that.)

Frank "2.4" Weyns,
PS: If all would go without any problem........
                 Would You have the same jobsatisfaction when all is ready ????

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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Scott Farro » Fri, 04 Aug 1995 04:00:00


I have done an upgrade from Solaris 2.3 to 2.4 and one complete install
of 2.4 on two IPX's this week.

The upgrade worked "better", but both machines are experiencing bizarre
name service/NIS problems.

When I try to log in anywhere but the console, the login session seems to hang
or just go very slowly for several minutes.  Sometimes you can actually log in,
other times it just times out.

On the freshly installed machine, I can't get dns or NIS to work at all.  Even
shutting down ypbind and changing the /etc/nsswitch.conf file to add dns on the
hosts line didn't help.  My network parameters and /etc/resolv.conf file are
just fine, but I still get this bizarre timeout on any hostname or NIS map
lookups.

Any clues?  As you can imagine, I'm not terribly impressed, but I don't know
anyone who has had this problem.

Thanks,

- Scott

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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Scott Farro » Fri, 04 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Re my upgrade woes with Solaris 2.4 on an IPX:

Installing the latest jumbo patch, 101945-27, has fixed the NIS problem.  
However, I still can't get DNS to work by itself.

- Scott

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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Pete Clin » Sat, 05 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Sun told our IT Services people that the SC2000 they ise *had* to be
reinstalled rather than upgraded, if memory serves correctly.

The upgrade on my SS10 server failed with not enough spare disk space, so
I had to reinstall.  It was a pain, but there again I did some
reconfiguring and improved the overall system balance, so there was a
sort of silver lining...

SUMMARY: on a SPARCstation you might get away with it.  Assume you might
not, and have a reliable backup *before* you put the CD in the drive and
cross your fingers.
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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Kocherlakota Sitara » Sat, 05 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Have you installed NSkit 1.2 ?
you can get it from
        http://www.sun.com/smcc/solaris-migration/tools/nskit

if you still have problems you can call 1-800-363-6200 or send email to

I had severe problems with NSkit 1.2 and DNS lookups.
Am happy with NSKit 1.1 Beta 12.

Swamy

: Re my upgrade woes with Solaris 2.4 on an IPX:

: Installing the latest jumbo patch, 101945-27, has fixed the NIS problem.  
: However, I still can't get DNS to work by itself.

: - Scott

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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Jay Sco » Tue, 08 Aug 1995 04:00:00




>Sun told our IT Services people that the SC2000 they ise *had* to be
>reinstalled rather than upgraded, if memory serves correctly.

I've been haranguing (sp?) on this subject forever.  Aug 4-5 was our
re-install.  There are about six fatal problems with the upgrade, and
most large machines (690 and above) fall victim to them.  My unscientific
survey yielded one claim of success on large machines, to about twelve
nays.  It can be done, I guess, but you've got to be lucky.

For another thing, everybody acts like re-installing is trivial.
It is far from it.  Oh, sure, it is for a small machine, but let's
remember, I have two SSAs, prestoserve, 10 total tape drives, 1.5 GB
mem, wide and narrow differential scsi controllers, two fddi interfaces,
and so on.  You don't just "re-install".  You lose all of your NIS, DNS,
syslog, inittab, etc/system, /etc/*.conf configurations.  You lose all
your mount points in /, /etc/vfstab, and so on.  Think /etc/vfstab is
simple?  If you have a trivial SS10, I'll bet.  But remember, I have to
restore /etc/vfstab in stages -- because the SSA software isn't automatically
there.  Furthermore, because we wish to share X with other machines, and
because we want all of our shared material to be on the file server,
the SUNWits package will be put into /opt by the re-install, but will
have to be deleted and re-installed AFTER the networking is restored
else you'll have inconsistencies in /var/sadm/install/contents.

There's about ten other things like this in a large installation.
If the upgrade would work, it should be able to do a pkgchk and
determine that xgl and xil are not in /opt, they're in /opt/depot.
But the upgrade won't play ball, because /opt/depot is partly on
an SSA -- which the upgrade can't operate.

sorry.  the upgrade is a hot button for me....
j.
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solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade experience?

Post by Pete Clin » Tue, 08 Aug 1995 04:00:00


: sorry.  the upgrade is a hot button for me....

Don't *you* go apologising!

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1. Upgrading from Solaris 2.3 to 2.4 ....

Greetings,

        We are thinking of upgrading our 2 Sparc 10s running Solaris 2.3 to
Solaris 2.4.  I wanted to check if this could prove to be a headache.  Do I
have to recompile some of the indispensable applications like emacs, tcsh, gcc
xv, xmosaic etc. which seem to be running fine under Solaris 2.3?  

        Also, if there is a FAQ in connection with Solaris 2.3 to 2.4 upgrade
please let me know.

        Thank you very much.

Vijay.

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