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is there any product like eudora (windows) 4 linux available?
when i'm using pine i can send mail over a slip connection to
the smtp-server of my internet provider but i cannot request
it with pine. so is there a product available or do i have to
work with smail/sendmail?

TIA

a.h.h.

: is there any product like eudora (windows) 4 linux available?
: when i'm using pine i can send mail over a slip connection to
: the smtp-server of my internet provider but i cannot request
: it with pine. so is there a product available or do i have to
: work with smail/sendmail?

IMHO, Pine and elm are better than Eudora.

When you connect your linux box via slip, the box then becomes a node on
the network.  Eudora did two things - read/send mail and fetch mail -
where elm and pine do only one - read and send mail.

Fortunately, Linux comes with a small program called popclient, which
fetches your mail using either POP2 or POP3 protocol (ask your ISP about
POP).  Unfortunately, popclient is not bug-free, so several parameters
which should be defaults must be set or you WILL lose mail.  My popclient
command line looks something like this:

popclient -3v -u kd6ozk -p *** -f /usr/spool/mail/kd6ozk
-o /usr/spool/mail/root mail.cts.com

where -3 says use POP3 protocol,
       v is verbose results,
      -u kd6ozk is my POP username (not SLIP, more likely a shell ID)
      -p *** is my POP password (deleted here, normally readable)
      -f is the remote mail file to read from
      -o is the local mail file to write to
      mail.cts.com is my POP server

Use man popclient for more information.

You can create a cron file for popclient so that it repeatedly checks for
mail, downloading as necessary.  Use man crontab for more information.

: is there any product like eudora (windows) 4 linux available?
: when i'm using pine i can send mail over a slip connection to
: the smtp-server of my internet provider but i cannot request
: it with pine. so is there a product available or do i have to
: work with smail/sendmail?

: TIA

: a.h.h.

It's called popclient, and it's available with the lastest versions
of slackware.  You can find it on sunsite.unc.edu under the slackware
directory

Erik Monson

: is there any product like eudora (windows) 4 linux available?
: when i'm using pine i can send mail over a slip connection to
: the smtp-server of my internet provider but i cannot request
: it with pine. so is there a product available or do i have to
: work with smail/sendmail?

Smtp requires a "permanent" connection to receive, since the most
Smtp-hosts only store forwarding mail for some hours to 2-3 days
typically. If I where you I'll would talk to the provider about
taking it in with uucp instead (and over normal modem-connection
not over slip/ppp) and have the crate dial out 4-5 times a day
to collect. Then use Xmh, xmailtool or Andrews "messages" mailers
to read/write it with MIME and other stuff locally.

If not otherwise You'll save money not beeing on line reading mail
(and you'v  might get a own subdomain as a fringee ;-). If not a
UNIX popreader is the only way (PC-pine shall have a popmode to
retrieve mail - doesnt the Linux-version have it?). This is
probably the reason for that You'll can't retrieve it with Pine
and SMTP, your mail is not queued, it's stored in a incoming
mailbox on the host.

Lars M

IMHO, IMAP is _much_ better than POP 2 or 3.

The IMAP server code for Linux is on sunsite and there are plenty of
clients out there.

Stephen.

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: IMHO, IMAP is _much_ better than POP 2 or 3.

Sure is, but not every ISP supports IMAP - two I use don't - but I think
they all support at least POP2.