More than one class C network on one network

More than one class C network on one network

Post by Daniel Fiel » Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:00:00



We currently have one class C network 194.73.142.0.

How can we use another class C network on the same physical network?

Is it just a case of running another set of DNS records for the new class
C?

Thanks in advance.
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Daniel Field
Technical Manager
Internet Access Ltd.

 
 
 

More than one class C network on one network

Post by B.A.McCau.. » Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:00:00



>We currently have one class C network 194.73.142.0.

>How can we use another class C network on the same physical network?

Just do it.

Quote:>Is it just a case of running another set of DNS records for the new class
>C?

DNS only maps IP names to/from IP numbers - it is is *completely*
unaffected by the physical network topology.

Just put and extra route/ip address on your router's dowstream
interface.  For details see the answer I gave to the same question
last week (thread mutatated into a far more interesting question about
ICMP_REDIRECTs and IP aliasing).

Alternatively use a 255.255.254.0 netmask.  (I think someone else
explained that approach).

>Daniel Field
>Technical Manager
>Internet Access Ltd.


I think you shouldn't have put that on your post - do you really want
to advertise to the world that the Technical Manager of Internet
Access Ltd. doesn't fully understand TCP/IP subnetting?

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More than one class C network on one network

Post by Phil Lewi » Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:00:00



> We currently have one class C network 194.73.142.0.

> How can we use another class C network on the same physical network?

> Is it just a case of running another set of DNS records for the new class
> C?

> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Daniel Field
> Technical Manager
> Internet Access Ltd.


Hmmm,

In my experience there is a bit more to it than just DNS. You will need
to have a default gateway for network A and Network B.

A lot of OSs cannot handle having a Network A address while using a
Network B default address. OK, linux usually will but IRIX won't and
windows sometimes has trouble for example.

So basically you could use a router which can appear as two ip addresses
at once on the same interface. I tried to use proxy arp on the router to
achieve this but it caused so much network gridlock that I scrapped that
method.

Also you must remember that using two default gateways on the same
network will cause A-B and B-A traffic to be duplicated on the ethernet
hence using twice the expected bandwidth.

The solution was to use two routers - one internet router from Network A
to the outside world and the other router needs to have two ethernet
ports (physical) so that the interface doesnt cause a bottleneck. I used
a unix server with two ethernet cards then set the routes accordingly
making the network B interface the default gateway for the other B
machines.  All is well for several weeks of intense use so far.

Good Luck - email me if you have any more queries..

Bye

Phil Lewis

 
 
 

More than one class C network on one network

Post by Arnoud de Jon » Fri, 11 Oct 1996 04:00:00



>We currently have one class C network 194.73.142.0.
>How can we use another class C network on the same physical network?
>Is it just a case of running another set of DNS records for the new class
>C?

This can be done with aliassing. To make an alias use:

ifconfig eth0:0 194.73.143.1  etc...
route add -host 194.73.143.1 dev eth0:0
route add -net 194.73.143.0 dev eth0:0

For more information see
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/alias.txt.

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I have a rather perplexing TCP/IP configuration question...

We have two Class C network addresses, 192.148.222.x and 204.130.218.x.
We have over 1,000 computers on one physical network, any of which could
use TCP/IP services.  We are attempting to implement a dynamic IP allocation
scheme, using BOOTP.

First question:  Does anyone know of a good BOOTP Server, under UNIX, that
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Hellsoft that does the job, but we need something for UNIX.

Second question:  We have had the 192.148.222.x Class C network for some
time.  Our netmask, of course, is 255.255.255.0.  Is it possible to use
the 204.130.218.x Class C network on the same physical network?  In my
mind, it seems possible with the right netmask and router.  We are directly
connected to the Internet via a Cisco Router.  Can anyone steer me in the
right direction to create the proper netmask and possible hardware purchase
to allow these two different Class C networks to exist on the same physical
network?

Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.  Larry.

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