286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by <tu.. » Wed, 07 Apr 1999 04:00:00



I have a network with some 286 (1Meg VGA Card) diskless / ethernet card.

How can I make this computers, terminals (X terminals if possible) on a
Linux box?

Thanks,

Tudor

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286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by Greg Wee » Wed, 07 Apr 1999 04:00:00




Quote:> I have a network with some 286 (1Meg VGA Card) diskless / ethernet card.

> How can I make this computers, terminals (X terminals if possible) on a
> Linux box?

I don't know of any X terminal package that runs on a 286. For dumb
terminal emulation simply have a bootable DOS disk and a DOS based
terminal program. There are a bunch of them.

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286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by master.. » Fri, 09 Apr 1999 04:00:00


you will probably want to get a copy of minux since linux doesn't run
on 286's

Quote:>I have a network with some 286 (1Meg VGA Card) diskless / ethernet card.

>How can I make this computers, terminals (X terminals if possible) on a
>Linux box?

>Thanks,

>Tudor

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286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by Jacques THOMA » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00



> I have a network with some 286 (1Meg VGA Card) diskless / ethernet card.

> How can I make this computers, terminals (X terminals if possible) on a
> Linux box?

I know it is not free software, but I suggest you have a look at :
        http://www.qnx.com

Their demo is worth giving it a try : you load an OS + browser + drivers
from a single floppy.

 
 
 

286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by Danny Bisho » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Perhaps this is too easy, but why not run a good DOS terminal emulator.  My
guess is that you'll have poor performance trying to run X on a 286 anyway.
And as I remember, a 286 -- that's not heavily loaded -- runs a nice DOS
teminal app exceptionally well.  I can't remember which freeware terminal
app I ran on mine back in the late 80s, but we dialed into our college shell
accounts on the thing and it acted like a regular terminal on the ethernet.

Just my two cents.

Danny



>> I have a network with some 286 (1Meg VGA Card) diskless / ethernet card.

>> How can I make this computers, terminals (X terminals if possible) on a
>> Linux box?

>I know it is not free software, but I suggest you have a look at :
> http://www.qnx.com

>Their demo is worth giving it a try : you load an OS + browser + drivers
>from a single floppy.

 
 
 

286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by Ralph Zell » Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:00:00


If you need to have X, and you have a fast network, try running vnc.
There is a version that works with dos and a packet driver.
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

>I have a network with some 286 (1Meg VGA Card) diskless / ethernet card.
>How can I make this computers, terminals (X terminals if possible) on a
>Linux box?
>Thanks,
>Tudor

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286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by Vidar Andres » Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:00:00




>Perhaps this is too easy, but why not run a good DOS terminal emulator.  My
>guess is that you'll have poor performance trying to run X on a 286 anyway.
>And as I remember, a 286 -- that's not heavily loaded -- runs a nice DOS
>teminal app exceptionally well.  I can't remember which freeware terminal
>app I ran on mine back in the late 80s, but we dialed into our college shell
>accounts on the thing and it acted like a regular terminal on the ethernet.

>Just my two cents.

Me 'two cents' too! ;-)

URL:http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/uka_ppp.exe

#  Additional software for uka_ppp on mvmpc9
URL:http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/yarnarc.exe
URL:http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/minuarc.exe
URL:http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/lynxarc.exe
URL:http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/xparc.exe
URL:http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/bobcat.exe
URL:http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/arachne.exe

A year ago or so, i hope the URLs still valid.

I have a 286 with 4MB ram running up to a graphical web-browser,
arachne, it works.  But i find it to slow on a 286.  The other packets
are ok on a 286.  (not shure about lynx and 286, bobcat, the smaller
brother of lynx, is ok.)  (maybe not yarn with a lot in the spool, but
for mail, ok.)

The packets above inklude some web-browsers, some telnet-clients, ftp of
different brands, mail, an so on.

Works ok on a machine set up with a card and an packet-driver, talking
to a machine running linux.

(there are packet-drivers for null-modem and paralell-cables as well,
it may work, byt then i guess linux must be running plip or slip.  I
have not tried. There is a howto.)

I think the packet-driver, and a telnet easily can be placed on a
floppy. _not_ using the uka_ppp frontend. With static ip.

There is also a microsoft tcp/ip thing useful for mounting shares, run
on 286.  I dont know if it will run of a floppy, it anyway consumes
much memory, but if, the whole uka_ppp thing could be run diskless.

(or maybe not, if the 'microsoft tcp/ip thing' take the card, it can
not also run the packet driver, maybe a couple of cards will be
needed.  And if memory leftover for other aplications get to low. It
may not work.  )

(Or mounting C:  via a paralell-cable, intersrv/interlnk or maybe
fastlynx.  But that demands another machine as disk-server for the
286.)

(both qnx and dos-vnc need a 386 or better, i belive, at least dos-vnc
do.  I am not into IPX, what can pcnfs do, i dont know.)

Vidar Andresen

 
 
 

286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by Vidar Andres » Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:00:00



>Me 'two cents' too! ;-)

>URL:http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/uka_ppp.exe

And so on. But since then someone mentioned:

    URL:http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html
    URL:http://www.linux.org.uk/ELKS-Home/index.html
    URL:http://www.trinux.org

As "linux"/"unix" distributiones able to run on 286.

For whatever it's worth, have not checked the URL's or anything.

Vidar Andresen

 
 
 

286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by Vidar Andres » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00




[...]
>    URL:http://www.trinux.org

>As "linux"/"unix" distributiones able to run on 286.

The one above is _not_ for 286.

Vidar Andresen

 
 
 

286 diskless computers like terminals on linux

Post by Leslie Mikese » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00



>I have a network with some 286 (1Meg VGA Card) diskless / ethernet card.

>How can I make this computers, terminals (X terminals if possible) on a
>Linux box?

They are probably too slow for decent X operation even if you can find
a program that isn't too expensive.

I'd go with the msdos version of kermit
   (http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html)
which will run over a packet driver and work in character mode in
telnet sessions.

  Les Mikesell

 
 
 

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