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Hello,

I have a PM7300 and a PC w/ K6-166 networked together. Linux is running on
the PC, it acts as a dial-up server, file server and print server. I would
like to share the ZIP drive between these two machines within the network.
Can anyone suggest a method? Right now I have to connect the zip drive to
different machine by using switchbox but reboot is needed.

Thanks and have a nice day!
Kelvin

Quote:> Hello,

> I have a PM7300 and a PC w/ K6-166 networked together. Linux is running on
> the PC, it acts as a dial-up server, file server and print server. I would
> like to share the ZIP drive between these two machines within the network.
> Can anyone suggest a method? Right now I have to connect the zip drive to
> different machine by using switchbox but reboot is needed.

> Thanks and have a nice day!
> Kelvin

Hi,

Yes, it's an Apple , running MacOS 8. So, how can I do that? You mean run
NFS on the MacOS?

Kelvin

You'll prolly know the rest... mail me if you need more info, but its
simple to set up.

Quote:> Hi,

> Yes, it's an Apple , running MacOS 8. So, how can I do that? You mean run
> NFS on the MacOS?

> Kelvin

Additionally, the NET-2-HOWTO talks about supporting Appletalk. eg:

     Appletalk
        Or is this EtherTalk ? Either way, I think this will let you
        shares files and printers with your Macintosh. See `Experimental
        and Developmental modules.'  below.

  13.9.  Appletalk support.

  If you have some Apple machines on your network that you'd like your
  linux machine to be able to share filesystems and printers with then
  the linux appletalk support is what you are after.

  The following information was supplied mostly by Cees de Groot


  the net.

  13.9.1.  Building the kernel with Appletalk DDP support

  Alan Cox has developed some experimental and working support for the
  Apple Ethertalk specification. It is now a part of the later 1.2.*
  revision kernels and the new linux 1.3.* revision kernels so to build
  the kernel support for it you need only compile up a recent kernel,
  make sure you select the following configuration option:

  #
  # cd /usr/src/linux
  # make config
   ...
   ...
      Appletalk DDP ? y
   ...
   ...
  #

  13.9.2.  Building the Appletalk configuration tools and daemons.

  You will need some additional software as the kernel support only
  provides enough to do basic networking, none of the higher layer
  protocols are implemented in the kernel.

  Systems Unix Group at the University of Michigan and they have
  produced a package called netatalk which provides software that
  implements the Appletalk protocol stack and some useful utilities.

  You can obtain it from:

  University of Michigan
  <ftp://terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu/unix/netatalk/>

  you will need at least version 1.3.3b2 as earlier versions did not
  support Linux.

  To build and install that package something like:

   # cd /usr/src
   # tar xvfz .../netatalk
   - You may want to edit the `Makefile' at this point, specifically to change
     the DESTDIR variable which defines where the files will be installed later.
     The default of /usr/local/atalk is fairly safe.
   - You should then just have to make the software. My `uname' program wasn't
     in the /bin directory so I edited the Makefile to reflect this change too.
   # make
   - as root:
   # make install

  You should then end up with a whole range of new commands to play
  with.

  13.9.3.  Configuring the Appletalk software.

  The first thing you need to do to make it all work is add the contents
  of the services.atalk file to your /etc/services file, just append it
  to the end of the file.

  The next step is to create the appletalk configuration files in the
  /usr/local/atalk/etc directory (or wherever you installed the
  package).

  The first file to create is the /usr/local/atalk/etc/Atalkd.conf file.
  To start this file needs only one line that gives the name of the
  network device that support the network that your Apple machines are
  on:

       eth0

  The Appletalk daemon program will add extra details after it is run.
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How do you want to *share* your ZIP drive? If you just want to
access the drive from both the Linux and the Mac, stick it to
the Linux and mount it to the Mac through netatalk, as James
implies. But this way the disk contents will be in Linux format
and not directly accessible by the Mac off-line. If you want to
use the drive as if you had two, the only way would be to use a
switch box or physical removal and attaching. But this way you
may need to reboot the Linux because it never recognizes drives
that were not found at a boot time.

Spend $100 on a refurbished ZIP drive, or $80 on such a parallel
version. It'll save much of your time and hassle.

hiro
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ARK> NFS is not available for the Mac.

(I think there are some third party products that provide nfs for the
mac. Nothing free that I know of tho. )

ARK> How do you want to *share* your ZIP drive? If you just want to
ARK> access the drive from both the Linux and the Mac, stick it to the
ARK> Linux and mount it to the Mac through netatalk, as James
ARK> implies. But this way the disk contents will be in Linux format
ARK> and not directly accessible by the Mac off-line. If you want to

unless you compile in mac HFS support into your linux kernel. Then you
can mount the mac zips and serve them to the mac with netatalk.
Should work fine.

ARK> use the drive as if you had two, the only way would be to use a
ARK> switch box or physical removal and attaching. But this way you
ARK> may need to reboot the Linux because it never recognizes drives
ARK> that were not found at a boot time.

You can get the linux box to reset and re-read the scsi bus, but I
think it's not a good idea. ;)

kevin
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Quote:

> ARK> use the drive as if you had two, the only way would be to use a
> ARK> switch box or physical removal and attaching. But this way you
> ARK> may need to reboot the Linux because it never recognizes drives
> ARK> that were not found at a boot time.

> You can get the linux box to reset and re-read the scsi bus, but I
> think it's not a good idea. ;)

Hallow

: >Assuming you can mount it, you'd share it like you would any other drive or
: >subdirectory, just enter it in the exports file etc., and the fstab file on
: >the other system.  Look in the NFS howto and man pages for more info.

: NFS is not available for the Mac.

It used to be.  I have a copy of Wollongong's "Pathways" MacOS NFS client
somewhere. It's several years old, and it may not work under system 7...

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<http://www.opensystems.com.au/netmanag/nfs_mac.htm>

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http://prozac.eeap.cwru.edu/jude/macnfs/Macnfsd.html

True.  It is beta but it works great