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Can anyone point me towards some documentation on settingup AppleTalk on
a Linux box?  I just installed Red Hat 4.0 and it had an AppleTalk option
which I installed, but I can't find a reference to it in the man pages or
in the HOWTO section.  I want my Linux box to appear in the AppleTalk
zones of my users (on Macs) and I want them to connect (with limited
access similar to Anonymous FTP) as "guest" and "put" things on the server.

Thanks for the help,

Peter Anderson

Look for programs atalkd, afpd, papd on your machine. If you find them
then your distribution came w/ netatalk.  Do man on these things, and
on nbp_name, and you will find out what to do.

If these things are not present, then your distribution only came with
kernel support for appletalk (AARP, DDP). I think this is more likely.
In this case, do as suggested below.

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Try http://thehamptons.com/anders/netatalk/

I got it working on Slakware 3.1, though haven't really tested it yet.

As long as we're talking about Netatalk--I don't have an ethernet card in
my Linux machine, nor do I have an Ethernet-capable Mac.  Is there a way to
set up Netatalk to use the PC serial port and Phonenet connectors like a
Mac network?  (Before anyone says RTFM, I read the source for the Netatalk
drivers and couldn't figure it out...)

TIA,

Alex Chamberlain

Quote:>As long as we're talking about Netatalk--I don't have an ethernet card in
>my Linux machine, nor do I have an Ethernet-capable Mac.  Is there a way to
>set up Netatalk to use the PC serial port and Phonenet connectors like a
>Mac network?  (Before anyone says RTFM, I read the source for the Netatalk
>drivers and couldn't figure it out...)

Later,
Ashok
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Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D.
McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research

Quote:>As long as we're talking about Netatalk--I don't have an ethernet card in
>my Linux machine, nor do I have an Ethernet-capable Mac.  Is there a way to
>set up Netatalk to use the PC serial port and Phonenet connectors like a
>Mac network?  (Before anyone says RTFM, I read the source for the Netatalk
>drivers and couldn't figure it out...)

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$ other duty laid on him.  For one year he is to be free to stay at home and $
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$ So that's why people get divorced--nobody can afford a decent honeymoon.   $

Later,
Ashok
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Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D.
McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research

I have set up MacTCP / dip CSLIP connection... I have a bunch of high
desinsity Mac disks I want to use on my Mac II-- so now I use executor
to create a mac cpt archive (binhexed) and then I use Fetch (ftp) on
the mac to retreive these files.  Somewhat cumbersome- but it's the
best I could come up with.  I'd *like* to share printers but I suppose
that's too much to hope for... ?

- Bob

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LocalTalk is NOT compatible with PC serial ports, nor will it ever be.
The serial chips used in PCs are of the National Semiconductor 8250
legacy.  The 8250 is an async only chip, as are all of its successors
(16450, 16550, 16650, etc...)  LocalTalk was developed around the Zilog
8530, which is a multiprotocol chip.  For LocalTalk operation, the 8530
is programmed for FM0 (bi-phase space) signaling, and communicates
frames using bit-oriented (a la HDLC) framing.  Neither of these
functions are available in 8530 and subsequent chips.  

The only practical method I know of to get a PC to talk LocalTalk
directly is to purchase a LocalTalk PC card from Farallon Systems (do
they still sell them?).  The card was originally developed and sold by
Apple, but they sold off the entire product to Farallon a long time ago
(i.e. at least 5 years).  The card uses a Zilog 8530 chip, plus a Z80
compatible microprocessor to implement LocalTalk with minimal overhead
on the PC.  

I have one of the LocalTalk PC cards, and have used it in the past with
Windows 3.1.  I just saw a posting that indicated that a future version
of the Linux kernel may include support for the LocalTalk PC card.
Luckily, I hadn't sent the card to the trash heap yet.  I'm looking
forward to being able to connect my LaserWriter II directly to Linux via
LocalTalk using this card.

Finally, in case you're interested, PhoneNet is a really simple
technology.  If you crack open a PhoneNet module, all you'll find is a
transformer.  Apple's original equivalent product contains - yep - a
transformer!  I'm at a loss as to the technical difference in
implementations, but I suspect that it's not much more than Apple being
too conservative to risk EMI complaints from emissions from (unshielded)
telephone wiring, whereas Farallon (being at the time, much smaller and
hungrier) didn't find such concerns too daunting.