Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Gregory Abb » Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:00:00



I'm seeking more information on the NetGear FA310TX 100Mbps Ethernet
adapters (~$35) and the NetGear FE104 100Mbps 4 port Hub (~$95).  How
stable are the NICs in RH 5.1?? . . what is the latest driver??

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Frank Sweetse » Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> I'm seeking more information on the NetGear FA310TX 100Mbps Ethernet
> adapters (~$35) and the NetGear FE104 100Mbps 4 port Hub (~$95).  How
> stable are the NICs in RH 5.1?? . . what is the latest driver??

should work fine with the latest tulip driver, from
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Trever Adam » Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> I'm seeking more information on the NetGear FA310TX 100Mbps Ethernet
> adapters (~$35) and the NetGear FE104 100Mbps 4 port Hub (~$95).  How
> stable are the NICs in RH 5.1?? . . what is the latest driver??

Make sure that the NetGear is based on the DEC Tulip and not the PNIC
clone chipset.  From the whisper in the wind says the PNIC chip is good
but the current drivers have problems with it due to media negotiation.
The hub is good.  Card is good (but may need to be avoided for a bit).

Trever

 
 
 

Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Eric Lee Gre » Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:00:00





>> I'm seeking more information on the NetGear FA310TX 100Mbps Ethernet
>> adapters (~$35) and the NetGear FE104 100Mbps 4 port Hub (~$95).  How
>> stable are the NICs in RH 5.1?? . . what is the latest driver??

>Make sure that the NetGear is based on the DEC Tulip and not the PNIC
>clone chipset.  From the whisper in the wind says the PNIC chip is good
>but the current drivers have problems with it due to media negotiation.
>The hub is good.  Card is good (but may need to be avoided for a bit).

The 0.88 driver included in the Linux 2.0.34 (and up) kernel has
problems with media negotiation on the PNIC chip. The latest driver
from the Tulip web site works quite well, as it should (since Donald
Becker got a crateload of the things to install in student
machines). I'm serving as a guinea pig for the thing (I pulled my
Tulip chipset card out and put in the latest NetGear PNIC-based card)
and so far, no problems, even under heavy network loads.

Right now I'd have to give the PNIC-based NetGears a tentative "okay".
Tentative only because support for them is not yet in the default
kernels put out by the distributions. As far as works, they appear to work
fine.

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Phil Howa » Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:00:00



| The 0.88 driver included in the Linux 2.0.34 (and up) kernel has
| problems with media negotiation on the PNIC chip. The latest driver
| from the Tulip web site works quite well, as it should (since Donald

...

| Tentative only because support for them is not yet in the default
| kernels put out by the distributions. As far as works, they appear to work
| fine.

FWIW, you don't need to go to the web site to get the driver.  It comes
on the floppy in the "linux" directory.  I've already compiled 2.0.35 with
that driver and it works OK.

Incidentally, these things don't work very well on NT, even though we are
installing the drivers from the floppy.  No experience with them on any
other OS, yet.

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Norm » Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:00:00


Gregory,


> I'm seeking more information on the NetGear FA310TX 100Mbps Ethernet
> adapters (~$35) and the NetGear FE104 100Mbps 4 port Hub (~$95).  How
> stable are the NICs in RH 5.1?? . . what is the latest driver??

Netgear sells a great kit that comes with 2 NICs, a hub and two 25' cables;
I got mine for $90!  But definitely download the latest version of tulip.c
and recompile the kernel with it.  Also, make sure you read the Linux readme
that comes on the floppy with the card; it tells of TWO special options you
have to select when you are configuring the kernel -- make sure you choose
BOTH!

All in all, a GREAT cheap setup!

Norm

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Gregory Abb » Sun, 18 Oct 1998 04:00:00


I just bought two of the FA310TX cards with the official Digital
21140-AF chip on board . . one for my new Linux box and the other for
my NT workstation.  I was going to use them for a 100Mbps local IP
network and after researching this card for Linux compatibility . .
assumed they would be 'ok' in NT.  

What kinds of things are you seeing in NT with these adapters??  Were
you able to get them working at the full 100Mb rate??  Do you think I
can make the two communicate at full speed??

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>FWIW, you don't need to go to the web site to get the driver.  It comes
>on the floppy in the "linux" directory.  I've already compiled 2.0.35 with
>that driver and it works OK.

>Incidentally, these things don't work very well on NT, even though we are
>installing the drivers from the floppy.  No experience with them on any
>other OS, yet.

 
 
 

Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Eric Lee Gre » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00




>| The 0.88 driver included in the Linux 2.0.34 (and up) kernel has
>| problems with media negotiation on the PNIC chip. The latest driver
>| from the Tulip web site works quite well, as it should (since Donald

>FWIW, you don't need to go to the web site to get the driver.  It comes
>on the floppy in the "linux" directory.  I've already compiled 2.0.35 with
>that driver and it works OK.

The driver that comes with the new FA310TX has been thoroughly dissed
by Donald Becker. He says he did not do the work on that version, that
whoever did the work on that version put some delays into it that
adversely affect the performance of the card, and that it is an older,
buggy version of the Tulip driver that some unknown person hacked for
Netgear (Netgear says that the PNIC folks provided the hacked driver,
the PNIC folks say that Netgear must have done it -- doesn't inspire
confidence, eh? :-).

Since Donald is "The Man" when it comes to the Tulip driver, I accept
his word on it and use his driver rather than Netgear's. It means we
have to add another floppy to the "ship packet" on the machines we
ship with an FA310TX installed (an "updated drivers" disk that also
has an updated Yellowfin Ethernet driver for the DigitalScape combo
SCSI/Ethernet card), but so it goes.

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Paul S. Aspinwa » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00





: >
: >| The 0.88 driver included in the Linux 2.0.34 (and up) kernel has
: >| problems with media negotiation on the PNIC chip. The latest driver
: >| from the Tulip web site works quite well, as it should (since Donald
: >
: >FWIW, you don't need to go to the web site to get the driver.  It comes
: >on the floppy in the "linux" directory.  I've already compiled 2.0.35 with
: >that driver and it works OK.

: The driver that comes with the new FA310TX has been thoroughly dissed
: by Donald Becker. He says he did not do the work on that version, that
: whoever did the work on that version put some delays into it that
: adversely affect the performance of the card, and that it is an older,
: buggy version of the Tulip driver that some unknown person hacked for
: Netgear (Netgear says that the PNIC folks provided the hacked driver,
: the PNIC folks say that Netgear must have done it -- doesn't inspire
: confidence, eh? :-).

: Since Donald is "The Man" when it comes to the Tulip driver, I accept
: his word on it and use his driver rather than Netgear's. It means we
: have to add another floppy to the "ship packet" on the machines we
: ship with an FA310TX installed (an "updated drivers" disk that also
: has an updated Yellowfin Ethernet driver for the DigitalScape combo
: SCSI/Ethernet card), but so it goes.

The driver that comes on the floppy is marked 0.89F and the official
latest version is 0.89H. For me only the 0.89F version works (even though
it has been dissed!)

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Rod Roar » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00



Quote:>The driver that comes on the floppy is marked 0.89F and the official
>latest version is 0.89H. For me only the 0.89F version works (even though
>it has been dissed!)

Please be explicit as to which revision of the card you're talking about,
or we'll never get this sorted out.  I just got in a batch that I believe
was marked "FA310TX-D1" and is recognized by the Tulip driver as a
"Lite-on" chipset.  0.89H seems to work with it - I didn't try the (0.89F)
driver from the included diskette.

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by John Simmo » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00




>: Since Donald is "The Man" when it comes to the Tulip driver, I accept
>: his word on it and use his driver rather than Netgear's. It means we
>: have to add another floppy to the "ship packet" on the machines we
>: ship with an FA310TX installed (an "updated drivers" disk that also
>: has an updated Yellowfin Ethernet driver for the DigitalScape combo
>: SCSI/Ethernet card), but so it goes.

>The driver that comes on the floppy is marked 0.89F and the official
>latest version is 0.89H. For me only the 0.89F version works (even
though
>it has been dissed!)

Nope - it's 0.89K now...

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Seeking more info on Netgear 100Mbps NICs and HUB

Post by Eric Lee Gre » Tue, 27 Oct 1998 04:00:00





>>: Since Donald is "The Man" when it comes to the Tulip driver, I accept
>>: his word on it and use his driver rather than Netgear's. It means we
>>: have to add another floppy to the "ship packet" on the machines we
>>: ship with an FA310TX installed (an "updated drivers" disk that also
>>: has an updated Yellowfin Ethernet driver for the DigitalScape combo
>>: SCSI/Ethernet card), but so it goes.

>>The driver that comes on the floppy is marked 0.89F and the official
>>latest version is 0.89H. For me only the 0.89F version works (even
>though
>>it has been dissed!)

>Nope - it's 0.89K now...

Actually, I could not get 0.89K to work with the PNIC version of the FA310TX.
Both the 0.89H and the hacked 0.89F version worked fine.

I suppose this is why the 0.89H is what's actually online at the tulip
home page.

Ain't progress fun? :-}.

(Now to see if 0.89K works on the PNIC-based LinkSys cards, sigh).

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1. 10BASE-T NIC and 100mbps NIC to a dual-speed hub doesn't work?

This question may be too dumb. In my home network configuration, I have
a DFE-530TX in a linux (RH6.0) box, a PCMCIA 10base-t card in a win98
laptop. Both of them are connected to a dual speed (Ethernet/Fast
Ethernet) hub. I assigned the linux box to 192.168.1.1 and win98 to
192.168.1.2. From the hub, I can see the 10mbps light is on of the port
connecting laptop's NIC and 100mbps light on of the port connecting the
linux. But when I ping from linux to the win98, it just does not have
any response. The same thing to the laptop. Simply, these two machines
don't know each other at all. Strangely, if I assign same IP address to
both machines, pinging from linux, a window popped in the win98 saying
"The system has detected a conflict for IP address 192.168.1.1 with the
system having hardware address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx". The address is my
linux NIC.

I must missed something basic in network wiring. Please someone tell me
what's wrong with the above configuration.

Thanks,

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