experiences with large (journaling) filesystems wanted

experiences with large (journaling) filesystems wanted

Post by Frank Ratzlo » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 08:12:47



Hi,

we are going to setup a fileserver with a volume/partition size of about 1
TB. I checked there are the following large journaling fs available:
ext3
jfs
xfs

Can anyone give me a hint which one best to use? We will produce a lot of
large tif files. What is the tool support of these fs about? How stable are
they? What about ACLs (as UFS has)? What about performance? ... in a Samba
and NFS environment?

Any comments welcome

TIA

Frank

 
 
 

experiences with large (journaling) filesystems wanted

Post by P60 » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:56:51


My experience with reisefs is very good, excelent, but I don't know for 1
Tb.
Arne

 
 
 

experiences with large (journaling) filesystems wanted

Post by John Murtar » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 02:43:09



> My experience with reisefs is very good, excelent, but I don't know for 1
> Tb.
> Arne

We are using RedHat 7.2 and ext3 journalling --  we have some 25Gig
filesystems and haven't had any problems.  Be sure to mount the
filesystem with "noatime" -- that will make a BIG difference.

Hope this helps.
John Murtari
http://www.thebook.com/

 
 
 

experiences with large (journaling) filesystems wanted

Post by Don Capp » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 07:13:49


You might want to take a peek at:

http://www.osdl.org/reports/

This is a nice performance comparison for many of the
filesystems you are thinking of using.

Enjoy,
Don Capps


Quote:> Hi,

> we are going to setup a fileserver with a volume/partition size of about 1
> TB. I checked there are the following large journaling fs available:
> ext3
> jfs
> xfs

> Can anyone give me a hint which one best to use? We will produce a lot of
> large tif files. What is the tool support of these fs about? How stable
are
> they? What about ACLs (as UFS has)? What about performance? ... in a Samba
> and NFS environment?

> Any comments welcome

> TIA

> Frank

 
 
 

experiences with large (journaling) filesystems wanted

Post by John Evan » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:09:10



> we are going to setup a fileserver with a volume/partition size of about 1
> TB. I checked there are the following large journaling fs available:
> ext3
> jfs
> xfs

Don't forget to take a look at ReiserFS also.  But it really depends on what
you're going to be doing with the filesystem.  Each fs has its own strengths
and weaknesses.

Quote:> Can anyone give me a hint which one best to use? We will produce a lot of
> large tif files. What is the tool support of these fs about? How stable are
> they? What about ACLs (as UFS has)? What about performance? ... in a Samba
> and NFS environment?

Now, since you mentioned that you'll be working with large tiff files, xfs most
likely would be your best choice.  Its the best of the 4 main journaling fs
(from the various stuff that I'v read) for working with large files.  It also
does support ACLs, also ACLs with samba.  And it works very nicely with NFS.
Its tools are really nice (its repair tool (xfs_repair) has saved me a couple
of times).

But I will admit that I'm a little bias (in xfs's favour).

The following two links should give you more then enough information on making
a final choice about which fs to use.

http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1154
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/l-fs9.html?d...

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1. WANTED: Experience in developing large commercial applications on linux

hello,

currently I'm looking for people that either ported a commercial product
to linux already or are doing that right now.
This is because I would like to have information about problems that
are specific to this OS. And of course I don`t want to reinvent the wheel...

So, I'm interested in portings of applications with properties as below:
 - Motif2.0 based
 - high end 3D graphics support
   - 2 Million+ 3D-polygons per second
   - 2 X 8 bit (double buffering): at least
   - 12 bit double buffering, hardware Z-buffer, Gouraud shading: recommended
   - 24 bit       "                   "                 "       : a good choice
 - code mixture of C++, C, LISP
 - reimplementations of malloc and free (new and delete)
   - free will never give memory back to the OS
   - malloc will reuse it later
 - 2 Millions lines of code
 - 32000 files in 6000 directories
 - sophisticated development (ksh) tools to
   - enable access to SCCS/RCS for 100+ developers
   - set up hardware independant development environments
   - generate Makefiles automatically
   - support distributed compilation in workstation clusters
   - support incremental linking
 - multi language support (multi byte characters)
   - us english, german, french, italian, japanese: kanji (!)
 - binary size (of the PA/RISC executable):
   a)     debug version 74 MByte
   b) NON debug version 32 MByte
 - RAM required (NON debug version):
   48  MB to start it up
   128 MB to work with it
   256 MB make sense, the more the better ...
 - swap space required (NON debug version):
   50  MB to start it up
   300 MB recommended
   1   GB ok, the more the better ...

If you have experience with a system like this, please send an email
directly to me.
Especially I'm interested in
 a) system call compatibility (e.g sbreak),
 b) compiler bugs,
 c) ksh <-> bash compatibility,
 d) nmake performance with deeply nested directory structures,
 e) more general information about how the OS's reliability will be
    if there is a high swap load and much traffic on the net.

How often occur FS crashes and how reliable deals fsck with them?
Can I have mirror disks to reduce the risk of disk crashes?
Does linux support VFS? e.g. can I define a file system with
2 GB if I have a 1 GB disk and two 500 MB disks?

Thanks in advance for any comment,
        Stefan
-
  Stefan Freitag, Mechanical Design Division,
  3D CAD Kernel Development, Blending and Parametrics
  Hewlett-Packard GmbH Germany, Herrenberger Str. 130, Boeblingen

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