LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

Post by Lewi » Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Folks,

I am building up a new computer, and converting my old Pentium 166/MMX
to a Linux box (my new computer will have Linux on it as well, but it
will primarily be a Windows98 box for my wife).

I plan to network the two computers, and am trying to determine which
NIC cards to use.

I am considering a Linksys Fast Ethernet Kit which contains two
Linksys LNE100TX cards and a hub.  It seems like a good value.

I have been to RedHat's web site, and see that they do not support
this card, but I have been to LinkSys' web site, and see that they do
support it for Linux.

I sure that a few of you have used this kit.  Any words of wisdom on
this kit?

1.  Does it work for Linux? (I know that Linksys states it does, but I
want to hear it from somebody who is actually using it!)

2.  Any "gotchas"?

3.  Any suggestions for any other NIC's and hubs that support 100BaseT
(that don't cost an arm and a leg!)?

Any help/comments/etc. are appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

R.J.

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LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

Post by m » Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:00:00


It works fine for me... The tulip driver is the one I use because it is the
chipset that my card comes with. There are 2 chipsets for this card.

If your are using Red Hat, you need to use 5.2 or newer, otherwise you will
have to either upgrade the kernel to 2.0.36 or to 2.2.x or patch the kernel
with the tulip driver patch.

One thing to note:
If you seem to be transmitting but no signal is coming back, and everything
seems to be correct with ifconfig and route, try shutting your machine down
completely (for a short bit) and restarting. I have had this happen twice
to me where the card freezes. Only shutting down completely worked each
time.

Linksys has a 100bT hub - works.



Quote:> Folks,

snip
> I am considering a Linksys Fast Ethernet Kit which contains two
> Linksys LNE100TX cards and a hub.  It seems like a good value.

> I have been to RedHat's web site, and see that they do not support
> this card, but I have been to LinkSys' web site, and see that they do
> support it for Linux.

> I sure that a few of you have used this kit.  Any words of wisdom on
> this kit?

> 1.  Does it work for Linux? (I know that Linksys states it does, but I
> want to hear it from somebody who is actually using it!)

> 2.  Any "gotchas"?

> 3.  Any suggestions for any other NIC's and hubs that support 100BaseT
> (that don't cost an arm and a leg!)?

> Any help/comments/etc. are appreciated.

> Thanks in advance,

> R.J.

> ---------------------------------------------------
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LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

Post by Rod Smi » Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:00:00


[Posted and mailed]



Quote:> Folks,

> I am building up a new computer, and converting my old Pentium 166/MMX
> to a Linux box (my new computer will have Linux on it as well, but it
> will primarily be a Windows98 box for my wife).

> I plan to network the two computers, and am trying to determine which
> NIC cards to use.

> I am considering a Linksys Fast Ethernet Kit which contains two
> Linksys LNE100TX cards and a hub.  It seems like a good value.

I've got one of these cards in one of my computers, and I've got a LinkSys
hub, but I didn't buy them as part of a kit.

Quote:> I have been to RedHat's web site, and see that they do not support
> this card, but I have been to LinkSys' web site, and see that they do
> support it for Linux.

> I sure that a few of you have used this kit.  Any words of wisdom on
> this kit?

> 1.  Does it work for Linux? (I know that Linksys states it does, but I
> want to hear it from somebody who is actually using it!)

Yes, it'll work with Linux.  You may need to replace one file in the Linux
kernel source tree and recompile, though.  This is because recent LinkSys
10/100 boards use a PNIC chipset (it's labelled "LinkSys" on the chip
itself, though), rather than the original DEC 21x4x.  The latest Tulip
drivers support the PNIC chipset, but they have yet to appear in any
kernel as of 2.2.9 (the latest I've checked).  You can obtain these latest
drivers from:

http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip-devel.html

The drivers on LinkSys' web site are the same (or possibly slightly
older).  LinkSys didn't write Linux drivers themselves, though the source
code includes a comment to the effect that LinkSys did donate a PNIC-based
board.

Quote:> 2.  Any "gotchas"?

See above.  Also, be sure that you're getting a 10/100 hub, as well as
10/100 NICs.  I've heard of kits that bundle 10/100 NICs with cheaper 10
Mbps-only hubs.  I don't know if the LinkSys kit is like this, but it
might be.

Quote:> 3.  Any suggestions for any other NIC's and hubs that support 100BaseT
> (that don't cost an arm and a leg!)?

Intel and 3COM NICs are both reputed to work well in Linux, and without
updating drivers, at least for recent kernels.  They're more expensive,
though (typically $60-$80 apiece).

Most of the inexpensive 10/100 NICs, including models from Netgear,
Kingston, SOHOware, and others now use clones of the Tulip chips,
supplied by PNIC, Macronix, ASIX, and perhaps others.  The actual chips
are often labelled with the board's manufacturer, though, so it's hard to
tell that this is the case until you see the Linux kernel bootup message
confirming the fact.  Most of these board should work fine with Linux
when using recent drivers, but may not work with the kernel "out of the
box."  I've seen reports of both success and failure for each of the
major Tulip clone board brands, though, so there may be subtle
differences from model to model, incompatibilities with some models with
other hardware, or plain old-fashioned user error.

The most popular exception to this rule I'm aware of is the D-Link
DFE-530TX, which uses a VIA Rhine chipset.  It's supported by
2.2.x-series kernels without any driver update.  The kernel source for
this board indicates that the drivers sometimes need to move data to
align it, though, which causes a speed hit.  I don't know how serious
this problem is.  I do have one of these boards in one system, though,
and it's been reliable.

No matter what model you get, I recommend purchasing from a store that
will let you return the whole mess for a refund or exchange with another
model, in case you have problems.

--
Rod Smith

http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que;
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LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

Post by Tony » Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:00:00


I am using Linksys LNE100 cards in both my Linux PC and my Win98 PCs.
Everything is working just fine. I am running RH 52. straight out fo the box
with the most recent tulip drivers. I bought the Linksys FENSK05 kit which
includes a 10/100 Mbs 5 port hub. Like everyone else I have a high speed
internet line (384 DSL) and am using IP Masquerading to allow the Win PCs to
share the connection.

Cheers
TC


>Folks,

>I am building up a new computer, and converting my old Pentium 166/MMX
>to a Linux box (my new computer will have Linux on it as well, but it
>will primarily be a Windows98 box for my wife).

>I plan to network the two computers, and am trying to determine which
>NIC cards to use.

>I am considering a Linksys Fast Ethernet Kit which contains two
>Linksys LNE100TX cards and a hub.  It seems like a good value.

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LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

Post by Lewi » Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Thanks to all for your input!

R.J.

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LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

Post by Lewi » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Thanks for the info.  I'll probably go ahead and get it at CompUsa,
since I believe they have a fairly liberal return policy.

Finally got around to start getting parts for my new computer, now I
just have to find a place for it... :)

Good luck with your book.  I hope it does well!

Sincerely,

R.J.



>[Posted and mailed]



>> Folks,

>> I am building up a new computer, and converting my old Pentium 166/MMX
>> to a Linux box (my new computer will have Linux on it as well, but it
>> will primarily be a Windows98 box for my wife).

>> I plan to network the two computers, and am trying to determine which
>> NIC cards to use.

>> I am considering a Linksys Fast Ethernet Kit which contains two
>> Linksys LNE100TX cards and a hub.  It seems like a good value.

>I've got one of these cards in one of my computers, and I've got a LinkSys
>hub, but I didn't buy them as part of a kit.

>> I have been to RedHat's web site, and see that they do not support
>> this card, but I have been to LinkSys' web site, and see that they do
>> support it for Linux.

>> I sure that a few of you have used this kit.  Any words of wisdom on
>> this kit?

>> 1.  Does it work for Linux? (I know that Linksys states it does, but I
>> want to hear it from somebody who is actually using it!)

>Yes, it'll work with Linux.  You may need to replace one file in the Linux
>kernel source tree and recompile, though.  This is because recent LinkSys
>10/100 boards use a PNIC chipset (it's labelled "LinkSys" on the chip
>itself, though), rather than the original DEC 21x4x.  The latest Tulip
>drivers support the PNIC chipset, but they have yet to appear in any
>kernel as of 2.2.9 (the latest I've checked).  You can obtain these latest
>drivers from:

>http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip-devel.html

>The drivers on LinkSys' web site are the same (or possibly slightly
>older).  LinkSys didn't write Linux drivers themselves, though the source
>code includes a comment to the effect that LinkSys did donate a PNIC-based
>board.

>> 2.  Any "gotchas"?

>See above.  Also, be sure that you're getting a 10/100 hub, as well as
>10/100 NICs.  I've heard of kits that bundle 10/100 NICs with cheaper 10
>Mbps-only hubs.  I don't know if the LinkSys kit is like this, but it
>might be.

>> 3.  Any suggestions for any other NIC's and hubs that support 100BaseT
>> (that don't cost an arm and a leg!)?

>Intel and 3COM NICs are both reputed to work well in Linux, and without
>updating drivers, at least for recent kernels.  They're more expensive,
>though (typically $60-$80 apiece).

>Most of the inexpensive 10/100 NICs, including models from Netgear,
>Kingston, SOHOware, and others now use clones of the Tulip chips,
>supplied by PNIC, Macronix, ASIX, and perhaps others.  The actual chips
>are often labelled with the board's manufacturer, though, so it's hard to
>tell that this is the case until you see the Linux kernel bootup message
>confirming the fact.  Most of these board should work fine with Linux
>when using recent drivers, but may not work with the kernel "out of the
>box."  I've seen reports of both success and failure for each of the
>major Tulip clone board brands, though, so there may be subtle
>differences from model to model, incompatibilities with some models with
>other hardware, or plain old-fashioned user error.

>The most popular exception to this rule I'm aware of is the D-Link
>DFE-530TX, which uses a VIA Rhine chipset.  It's supported by
>2.2.x-series kernels without any driver update.  The kernel source for
>this board indicates that the drivers sometimes need to move data to
>align it, though, which causes a speed hit.  I don't know how serious
>this problem is.  I do have one of these boards in one system, though,
>and it's been reliable.

>No matter what model you get, I recommend purchasing from a store that
>will let you return the whole mess for a refund or exchange with another
>model, in case you have problems.

>--
>Rod Smith

>http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
>NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
>Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que;
>see http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/books.html

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LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

Post by Rod Smi » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00


[Posted and mailed]



Quote:> Thanks for the info.  I'll probably go ahead and get it at CompUsa,
> since I believe they have a fairly liberal return policy.

Not any more.  At least, not the one in Woburn, Massachusetts (just north
of Boston).  Now they carve out a restocking fee if you return is for any
reason other than defective merchandise.  Micro Center's much better that
way, at least the one near me.

--
Rod Smith

http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que;
see http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/books.html

 
 
 

LinkSys NIC LNE100TX: Anybody have any problems with this card?

Post by Jeffrey Scot » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Just bought a LNE100TX myself...works fine after downloading, compiling,
and adding the module for the latest tulip driver from the Linksys
website.

The tulip driver that came with RH 6.0 did not work for my particular
chipset (Proprietary Linksys chip).  There are a few different chipsets
for this particular card.  Linksys states that the latest tulip driver
should work for all versions of their card (of course they don't
officially support Linux, but you gotta like a company that acknowledges
the existance of Linux, and provides helpful info on their website).

 
 
 

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