running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by Markus Schneide » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00



Is it possible to start a windowmanager (such as kdm or fvwm2) on
MIXServer 5.6?

Thanks in advance,

Doc Snyder

 
 
 

running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by David Fo » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00




Quote:>Is it possible to start a windowmanager (such as kdm or fvwm2) on
>MIXServer 5.6?

Hi
I couldn't get it to work :-(

I ended up with superX and WinX32 both are Win95 Xservers and allow you to
use the Windows window manager.

WinX32 gives you two hours then warns you and shuts down. SuperX is a sixty
day trial (then you have to reinstall).

Dave

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running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by Raphael Leiteri » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00


On Tue, 26 May 1998 22:09:27 +0200, Markus Schneider


>Is it possible to start a windowmanager (such as kdm or fvwm2) on
>MIXServer 5.6?

>Thanks in advance,

>Doc Snyder

Perhaps you should have a look at the VNC-Server. It is free
and is for many needs even better than a X-Server:

http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/

Raphael

 
 
 

running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by David Limbric » Tue, 09 Jun 1998 04:00:00


I use Xwin32 http://www.starnet.com (which I suppose is similar) running
under win95 and NT and it works quite happily using xdm or kdm.
Regards,
David Limbrick.


> On Tue, 26 May 1998 22:09:27 +0200, Markus Schneider

> >Is it possible to start a windowmanager (such as kdm or fvwm2) on
> >MIXServer 5.6?

> >Thanks in advance,

> >Doc Snyder
> Perhaps you should have a look at the VNC-Server. It is free
> and is for many needs even better than a X-Server:

> http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/

> Raphael

 
 
 

running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by Mark Eva » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00




: >Is it possible to start a windowmanager (such as kdm or fvwm2) on
: >MIXServer 5.6?
: >
: Hi
: I couldn't get it to work :-(

You can only run *one* window manager at a time.

: I ended up with superX and WinX32 both are Win95 Xservers and allow you to
: use the Windows window manager.

As these are already running a window manager you can't run another one.

i.e. you probably can't run a remote window manager with a MS windows, OS/2,
etc X-Server. You can with a proper X-Terminal. (Or if you can find
something which will actually work as one, i.e. if will give you a grey
hatched screen with an 'X' shaped cursor when you start it up.)

--
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Fax: +44 1392 204763

 
 
 

running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by Mark Eva » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00


: I use Xwin32 http://www.starnet.com (which I suppose is similar) running
: under win95 and NT and it works quite happily using xdm or kdm.

xdm (and kdm) are not window managers. Also they are not usually run
with a window manager active, even though they could be.

--
Mark Evans
St. Peter's CofE High School
Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109
Fax: +44 1392 204763

 
 
 

running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by John D. Hard » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00







>: >Is it possible to start a windowmanager (such as kdm or fvwm2) on
>: >MIXServer 5.6?

{snip}

Quote:> i.e. you probably can't run a remote window manager with a MS windows,
> OS/2, etc X-Server. You can with a proper X-Terminal. (Or if you can find
> something which will actually work as one, i.e. if will give you a grey
> hatched screen with an 'X' shaped cursor when you start it up.)

In the case of MIXserver, this is not true. MIX puts the X desktop in a
single Windows window, so you still need to run an X window manager to
manage the X windows. MIX comes with an NT version of TWM, so if you like
TWM just run both MIX and TWM by running the MIX startup batch file.

I prefer fvwm. Here's the script I run on my Linux box after logging in via
telnet. MIX is running on the box I logged in from.

  cd
  server=`ps f | perl -ne 'print $1 if /login -h ([-_A-Za-z0-9]+)/;'`
  export DISPLAY=$server:0.0
  exec ~/.Xclients &
  ( sleep 30; rm core ) &

It figures out which system I logged in from, sets $DISPLAY appropriately,
and runs my .Xclients script (which starts fvwm and a few clients.) This
give me the same desktop I see when I run startx on the Linux console.

Deleting the core file is handy because MIX does not implement some shape
extensions, so some of the clients in my .Xclients file bomb out (for
instance, xclock).

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running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by Arthur Corli » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00


On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:26:07 +0100, Mark Evans





>: >Is it possible to start a windowmanager (such as kdm or fvwm2) on
>: >MIXServer 5.6?
>: >
>: Hi
>: I couldn't get it to work :-(

>You can only run *one* window manager at a time.

>: I ended up with superX and WinX32 both are Win95 Xservers and allow you to
>: use the Windows window manager.

>As these are already running a window manager you can't run another one.

>i.e. you probably can't run a remote window manager with a MS windows, OS/2,
>etc X-Server. You can with a proper X-Terminal. (Or if you can find
>something which will actually work as one, i.e. if will give you a grey
>hatched screen with an 'X' shaped cursor when you start it up.)

That's not entirely correct.  If you use Exceed in single window mode, you can
get a desktop sized window that is in direct control of a window manager
launced remotely.  It even supports the pagers and virtual desktops.  :-)

I have yet to see anything this fancy in freeware, so if you want a fully
functional, fully X11R6 compliant X server for Windows, you may have to shell
out some bucks.  Personally, I'm very satisfied with the purchase.

        --Arthur Corliss
          "Live Free or Die--the Only Way to Live" (NH State Motto)

 
 
 

running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by Steve Clark » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Check out MicroImages Free TNT Lite X Server
www.microimages.com

It supports a lot of the XWindows protocol - enough
for their application - so they give it away for free.

It doesn't have a font server, so you must manually transfer
any fonts you need from the Linux box, but that said, it
is free, and it works !

S.

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>On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:26:07 +0100, Mark Evans




>>: >Is it possible to start a windowmanager (such as kdm or fvwm2) on
>>: >MIXServer 5.6?
>>: >
>>: Hi
>>: I couldn't get it to work

>>You can only run *one* window manager at a time.

>>: I ended up with superX and WinX32 both are Win95 Xservers and allow you
to
>>: use the Windows window manager.

>>As these are already running a window manager you can't run another one.

>>i.e. you probably can't run a remote window manager with a MS windows,
OS/2,
>>etc X-Server. You can with a proper X-Terminal. (Or if you can find
>>something which will actually work as one, i.e. if will give you a grey
>>hatched screen with an 'X' shaped cursor when you start it up.)

>That's not entirely correct.  If you use Exceed in single window mode, you
can
>get a desktop sized window that is in direct control of a window manager
>launced remotely.  It even supports the pagers and virtual desktops.  :-)

>I have yet to see anything this fancy in freeware, so if you want a fully
>functional, fully X11R6 compliant X server for Windows, you may have to
shell
>out some bucks.  Personally, I'm very satisfied with the purchase.

> --Arthur Corliss
>   "Live Free or Die--the Only Way to Live" (NH State Motto)

 
 
 

running a windowmanager on remote x-server (win95)?

Post by Harry Philli » Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:00:00




>xdm (and kdm) are not window managers. Also they are not usually run
>with a window manager active, even though they could be.

uh, nobody said they were windows managers.

also, your previous post was similarly non-responsive.

just thought you should know.

H.

 
 
 

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