Awful Netscape crashes under Linux -- are they libc-related?

Awful Netscape crashes under Linux -- are they libc-related?

Post by Igor Chudov » Sun, 05 Jan 1997 04:00:00



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Hello,

By some reason, my Netscape Navigator Gold v 3.01 crashes from time to
time. Most of the time it crashes when Java is turned on and it is much
more stable when Java is off -- although its editor also is not very
reliable and editing HTML tables causes Mozilla to crash.

I am using linux v.2.0.27, on a pentium 90 with 32 mb memory.
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root     13 Oct 20 12:04 /lib/libc.so -> libc.so.5.4.7
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root     13 Oct 20 12:04 /lib/libc.so.5 -> libc.so.5.4.7
- -rwxr-xr-x   1 bin    bin 1773160 Sep 24 18:20 /lib/libc.so.5.4.7

Seems like some time ago someone mentioned that Netscape problems were
somehow related to bugs in libc. I wonder is it still the case? Would
you recommend to upgrade to libc-5.4.17? Or it is a better idea to wait
for a newer version of libc?

Thank you.

        - Igor.

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Awful Netscape crashes under Linux -- are they libc-related?

Post by John Timmer » Sun, 05 Jan 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

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> Hello,

> By some reason, my Netscape Navigator Gold v 3.01 crashes from time to
> time. Most of the time it crashes when Java is turned on and it is much
> more stable when Java is off -- although its editor also is not very
> reliable and editing HTML tables causes Mozilla to crash.

> I am using linux v.2.0.27, on a pentium 90 with 32 mb memory.
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root     13 Oct 20 12:04 /lib/libc.so -> libc.so.5.4.7
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root     13 Oct 20 12:04 /lib/libc.so.5 -> libc.so.5.4.7
> - -rwxr-xr-x   1 bin    bin 1773160 Sep 24 18:20 /lib/libc.so.5.4.7

> Seems like some time ago someone mentioned that Netscape problems were
> somehow related to bugs in libc. I wonder is it still the case? Would
> you recommend to upgrade to libc-5.4.17? Or it is a better idea to wait
> for a newer version of libc?

Have a look at this page:

http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html
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Awful Netscape crashes under Linux -- are they libc-related?

Post by J. Maynard Gelin » Sun, 05 Jan 1997 04:00:00


        [followups trimmed for excessive posting]

        No, use libc-5.2.18 specifically with Netscape.  Write a wrapper
shell script which sets the enviornment variable
LD_PRELOAD=$PATH_TO_libc-5.2.18, and then launch netscape from within this
shell.  Your problems *will* disapear.  And Next time, be more selective
where you post.  This newsgroup header line is *way* too big!

Good Luck,
Maynard


: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

: Hello,

: By some reason, my Netscape Navigator Gold v 3.01 crashes from time to
: time. Most of the time it crashes when Java is turned on and it is much
: more stable when Java is off -- although its editor also is not very
: reliable and editing HTML tables causes Mozilla to crash.

: I am using linux v.2.0.27, on a pentium 90 with 32 mb memory.
: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root     13 Oct 20 12:04 /lib/libc.so -> libc.so.5.4.7
: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root     13 Oct 20 12:04 /lib/libc.so.5 -> libc.so.5.4.7
: - -rwxr-xr-x   1 bin    bin 1773160 Sep 24 18:20 /lib/libc.so.5.4.7

: Seems like some time ago someone mentioned that Netscape problems were
: somehow related to bugs in libc. I wonder is it still the case? Would
: you recommend to upgrade to libc-5.4.17? Or it is a better idea to wait
: for a newer version of libc?

: Thank you.

:       - Igor.

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Awful Netscape crashes under Linux -- are they libc-related?

Post by Jason Burre » Sun, 05 Jan 1997 04:00:00


[Followups redirected to an appropriate set of groups]


Quote:>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

>Hello,

>By some reason, my Netscape Navigator Gold v 3.01 crashes from time to
>time. Most of the time it crashes when Java is turned on and it is much
>more stable when Java is off -- although its editor also is not very
>reliable and editing HTML tables causes Mozilla to crash.

>I am using linux v.2.0.27, on a pentium 90 with 32 mb memory.
>lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root     13 Oct 20 12:04 /lib/libc.so -> libc.so.5.4.7
>lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root     13 Oct 20 12:04 /lib/libc.so.5 -> libc.so.5.4.7
>- -rwxr-xr-x   1 bin    bin 1773160 Sep 24 18:20 /lib/libc.so.5.4.7

>Seems like some time ago someone mentioned that Netscape problems were
>somehow related to bugs in libc. I wonder is it still the case? Would
>you recommend to upgrade to libc-5.4.17? Or it is a better idea to wait
>for a newer version of libc?

No. This is a bug in Netscrape. I've been told that Netscrape acknowledges
that the bug exists, but refuse to fix it. (I haven't asked them myself,
though, so that information is second-hand).

When it crashes over here, it takes down the entire system. _That_ may be a
bug in X, but there is a bug in Netscape that triggers the bug in X. It's
the only application that does that. It's crashed on every libc version I've
tried from 5.3.12 to 5.4.18, with and without Java turned on. It's crashed
on XFree86 versions 3.1, all the 3.1 betas, and 3.2. I just got done
removing it from all my systems.

But as far as I'm concerned personally, it's just as well because pages written
by people who can't use HTML correctly usually aren't worth reading anyway.
"Using HTML correctly" means actually naming your links, not putting USEMAPs and
IMAGEMAPs all over the place, not framing things particularly without a
non-framed version, putting in some ALT tags, etc. HTML was not designed to require
5MB browsers that eat resources, take forever to load, feed corporate giants,
encourage incompatability, suck bandwidth, and crash continuously just to _read_
the pages.)

The worst web page I've seen yet: http://www.direcpc.com. Hit that one with
a non-graphical browser and see what happens.

Flames to /dev/null.

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1. Netscape Java crashes with libc, which libc should I use?

Hello.. it is fairly commonly known that Netscape won't work with linux
using various Libc's out there. Right now I'm using libc.so.5.3.12 which
came with Slackware 3.1 (96). Which I run netscape 3.01 or 4.03 they
both quit with the usual Bus Error.  I know people have said that
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runs the Java, but lately it will crash my whole machine. I'm sure
there's newer libc's out there, but  has anyone found one that will let
Netscape run Java without a Bus Error, or crashing my machine? Thanks in
advance..  
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