Suggest 'normal' DOS/Win31 tcp/ip stack

Suggest 'normal' DOS/Win31 tcp/ip stack

Post by Dale Ponti » Mon, 31 Aug 1998 04:00:00



I need a tcp/ip stack for DOS/Win31, and am completely unfamiliar
with what's available. I know there are several free ones, but I
suspect most of them won't look 'normal' like Linux or OS/2. (The
OS/2 tcp/ip is a fairly straightforward port of Unix tcp/ip.)

Can some suggest/point to one that 'acts like Unix'?

Thanks,
Dale Pontius
edgehp AT together DOT net

 
 
 

Suggest 'normal' DOS/Win31 tcp/ip stack

Post by Bill Sanche » Thu, 03 Sep 1998 04:00:00



> I need a tcp/ip stack for DOS/Win31, and am completely unfamiliar
> with what's available. I know there are several free ones, but I
> suspect most of them won't look 'normal' like Linux or OS/2. (The
> OS/2 tcp/ip is a fairly straightforward port of Unix tcp/ip.)

> Can some suggest/point to one that 'acts like Unix'?

> Thanks,
> Dale Pontius
> edgehp AT together DOT net

1) fix your return adress, hoser
2) why are you posting in a linux group?
3) believe it or not, the tcp/ip stack for win31 from microsoft
works pretty ok. You'll never find it looking through their
web site, but i think it's mirrored at
http://tucows.mcp.com/softtcp.html
4) I've never actually SEEN a dos-only tcp/ip stack, but I've
heard of them. I keep hearing about something called "Beame and
Whiteside",
a proprietary tcp/ip stack for dos, and something from FTP Software
and OnNet (they may be the same thing, i dunno. It's been a while
since I thought of networking anything in dos).

The most effective answer, of course, is "use linux",
but obviously you already knew that.

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Suggest 'normal' DOS/Win31 tcp/ip stack

Post by Dale Ponti » Thu, 03 Sep 1998 04:00:00




Quote:

> 1) fix your return adress, hoser

I figure it's a feature, anti-spam with no extra work. Better yet, any
'auto-spam' even stays on the spammer's machine. Too bad I can't make
it self-multiply the same way and let the spammer bomb himself.

Quote:> 2) why are you posting in a linux group?

Because I'm used to setting up tcp/ip under Linux. I've done it here,
and on Unix (AIX), and on OS/2, which looks a lot like Unix, in its
handling of tcp/ip. I now have a need for tcp/ip in DOS/Win3.1 (don't
have, won't buy Win9X) and want to use something reasonable. I'd rather
avoid a Win-centric stack, from an aesthetic point of view.

Quote:> 3) believe it or not, the tcp/ip stack for win31 from microsoft
> works pretty ok. You'll never find it looking through their
> web site, but i think it's mirrored at
> http://tucows.mcp.com/softtcp.html

Thanks, I'll look at it, wwwoffle will fetch it when I send this out.

Quote:> 4) I've never actually SEEN a dos-only tcp/ip stack, but I've
> heard of them. I keep hearing about something called "Beame and
> Whiteside",
> a proprietary tcp/ip stack for dos, and something from FTP Software
> and OnNet (they may be the same thing, i dunno. It's been a while
> since I thought of networking anything in dos).

> The most effective answer, of course, is "use linux",
> but obviously you already knew that.

As I said, I need this under DOS/Win3.1, and WINE is -almost- there.

Dale Pontius
edgehp AT together DOT net

 
 
 

Suggest 'normal' DOS/Win31 tcp/ip stack

Post by Marc D. Willia » Thu, 03 Sep 1998 04:00:00



>I need a tcp/ip stack for DOS/Win31, and am completely unfamiliar
>with what's available. I know there are several free ones, but I
>suspect most of them won't look 'normal' like Linux or OS/2. (The
>OS/2 tcp/ip is a fairly straightforward port of Unix tcp/ip.)

>Can some suggest/point to one that 'acts like Unix'?

What do you mean by `stack'? Are you just looking for a PPP packet
driver or something to do development with (WATTCP is good one for
that).
If you're just looking for a packet driver then check out DOSPPPD
which is basically a port of the Linux pppd.
Check out the site below in my sig for more information (as well as
related links).

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Suggest 'normal' DOS/Win31 tcp/ip stack

Post by Doug Smi » Thu, 03 Sep 1998 04:00:00




>> 1) fix your return adress, hoser
>I figure it's a feature, anti-spam with no extra work.

Agreed.  I've tried posting with a working address, but I've got
better things to do than dig through a mailbox that's 95% spam.
(literally)

Quote:>> 3) believe it or not, the tcp/ip stack for win31 from microsoft
>> works pretty ok.

It's also on
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/peropsys/windows/public/tcpip/WFWT32.EXE
(of course also reachable with a FTP program)  I agree, it works
pretty well and is reasonably easy to set up.  

Quote:>> 4) I've never actually SEEN a dos-only tcp/ip stack, but I've
>> heard of them. I keep hearing about something called "Beame and
>> Whiteside", a proprietary tcp/ip stack for dos, and something from FTP Software
>> and OnNet (they may be the same thing, i dunno. It's been a while
>> since I thought of networking anything in dos).

Somewhere on ftp.microsoft.com, there's a DOS client for Windows for
Workgroups that will connect to a Samba server.  However, it doesn't
support other applications like FTP or telnet.  

We have a few machines running the Woolongong Pathway stack.  It works
OK & is quite reliable, though I'm not the one who had to sign the
checks.  (i.e., I suspect it's expensive!)

For non-commercial use, you might find the KA9Q "NOS" program useful.
It should be available on most decent ham radio sites.  

Doug S.