Using LILO & System Commander

Using LILO & System Commander

Post by Rob Thiel » Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Hello Linux Folks,

It seems that both LILO (RH5.1) & System Commander Dlxe v4.01
want to write to the Master Boot Record, which means if one comes
up when booting ... the other one won't.  Seems there must be a
way to select Linux at the SCD menu, and then be sent to the LILO
prompt.  Thought I read somewhere that LILO has to be installed to
the "root superblock" (partition boot record), rather than to the MBR
in order to accomplish this. If this is the case, how would I go about
it?  Please assume "newbie-speak" when responding, as I'm fairly
new to Linux.  

Will genuinely appreciate your response.

 
 
 

Using LILO & System Commander

Post by trie.. » Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:00:00




>Hello Linux Folks,

>It seems that both LILO (RH5.1) & System Commander Dlxe v4.01
>want to write to the Master Boot Record, which means if one comes
>up when booting ... the other one won't.  Seems there must be a
>way to select Linux at the SCD menu, and then be sent to the LILO
>prompt.  Thought I read somewhere that LILO has to be installed to
>the "root superblock" (partition boot record), rather than to the MBR
>in order to accomplish this. If this is the case, how would I go about
>it?  Please assume "newbie-speak" when responding, as I'm fairly
>new to Linux.  

>Will genuinely appreciate your response.


                Well as one newbie let me say that I fought my RedHat
5.1 install for 2 or 3 weeks trying to get it to connect to my ISP.
The answer was (for me) easy.   Pull the plug and pray Zoom modem and
jumper the sucker as com 2 (remember to disable com 2 in your bios).
It worked easy as can be after that.  

Ted

 
 
 

Using LILO & System Commander

Post by Liz Knu » Sun, 20 Sep 1998 04:00:00


On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:18:25 GMT, Rob Thielen spoke unto the people
of comp.os.linux.setup in these words:

Quote:> It seems that both LILO (RH5.1) & System Commander Dlxe v4.01
> want to write to the Master Boot Record, which means if one comes
> up when booting ... the other one won't.  Seems there must be a
> way to select Linux at the SCD menu, and then be sent to the LILO
> prompt.  Thought I read somewhere that LILO has to be installed to
> the "root superblock" (partition boot record), rather than to the MBR
> in order to accomplish this. If this is the case, how would I go about
> it?  Please assume "newbie-speak" when responding, as I'm fairly
> new to Linux.  

Greetings, fellow newbie.

I also have System Commander Deluxe, v.4.01.  On my machine before I
installed Linux.  And, like you, I have RH5.1.

Even though I asked RH to install LILO in the root superblock (first
part of Linux / partition), it was looking for it in MBR at boot time.  
I had to boot Linux from a floppy for awhile.

When you install, ask for LILO to be in the beginning of the Linux
root partition.  When it asks you about other systems (it will
recognize Win95), say OK.

If you suspect that LILO is in MBR, first boot Linux.  Log in as root.
At the # prompt, type

/sbin/lilo -u

and hit return/enter.

When you see the # prompt again, type

more /etc/lilo.conf

and hit return/enter.

If the first line says,

boot=/dev/hda

(or sda, or any drive without a number at the end), LILO will try to
boot from the MBR.  A little further down will be a line that tells
you where the Linux root partition is, e.g.,

root=/dev/hda2

If the boot and root lines do not match, hit the spacebar until you
see the # prompt again.  Then type

vi /etc/lilo.conf

and hit return/enter.

Then type

a

Don't hit return this time.  Typing "a" puts vi in insert mode.  It
will say --INSERT-- at the bottom left of your screen.  Use the arrow
keys to put the cursor at the end of the boot line.  Any characters
you type will be inserted _a_fter your cursor.  Make boot= match root= .
Hit the "esc" key until INSERT turns off.  Then type

:wq

and return/enter.  You should be back at the # prompt.  Type

/sbin/lilo -v

and hit return/enter.  This updates LILO's boot record.  Try rebooting
from the hard drive, and see if LILO can now boot Linux from the
hard drive.  If so, go into System Commander.  If it doesn't
recognize that you have added Linux, press ALT-s (setup).  Then "Order,
add and remove" menu.  ALT-a to _A_dd.  This shows you a list of
partitions.  Use arrow keys to move highlighted bar down to Linux
root partition.  ALT-t toggles the partition as bootable.

Liz
--
Elizabeth T. Knuth                                "A*roach in a tuxedo

http://www.veryComputer.com/;-Richard K. Bethell,
Internet-Centric Resources                             nanae, 6 Nov 97

 
 
 

Using LILO & System Commander

Post by Liz Knu » Mon, 21 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Bad manners to follow up on my own post, I know.

On 19 Sep 1998 03:05:33 GMT, I spoke unto the people of
comp.os.linux.setup in these words:

Quote:> On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:18:25 GMT, Rob Thielen spoke unto the people
> of comp.os.linux.setup in these words:
> > It seems that both LILO (RH5.1) & System Commander Dlxe v4.01
> > want to write to the Master Boot Record, which means if one comes
> > up when booting ... the other one won't.  

[snippety snip]

Quote:> If the first line says,
> boot=/dev/hda
> (or sda, or any drive without a number at the end), LILO will try to
> boot from the MBR.  A little further down will be a line that tells
> you where the Linux root partition is, e.g.,
> root=/dev/hda2

[snip where I tell Rob how to edit /etc/lilo.conf]

Quote:> Try rebooting from the hard drive, and see if LILO can now boot Linux
> from the hard drive.  If so, go into System Commander.  

Ack!  If you have successfully put LILO in / instead of the MBR, it's
*not* going to boot from the hard drive.  If all goes well, System
Commander will come up, and you can add Linux to the menu.  If it boots
to your earlier OS (Windows, DOS), the SCD manual tells you how to get
System Commander going again from the DOS prompt.  If (God forbid)
*nothing* boots up, use your DOS/Windows boot diskette to get going.

Liz
--
Elizabeth T. Knuth                                "A*roach in a tuxedo

http://www.veryComputer.com/;-Richard K. Bethell,
Internet-Centric Resources                             nanae, 6 Nov 97

 
 
 

Using LILO & System Commander

Post by =-=-=RiP=-=- » Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:00:00


I actually did this with OS/2 Bootmanager and LILO, but I guess it might
work for you. What you need to do is this. First install system commander in
the MBR and then during the LILO installation install it into the beginning
of the partition. This will make system commander boot first. you select
linux from the menu and then it will invoke LILO and LILO will bot Linux.
Hopefully this works. I know it workd with Bootmanager.

RIP


>Hello Linux Folks,

>It seems that both LILO (RH5.1) & System Commander Dlxe v4.01
>want to write to the Master Boot Record, which means if one comes
>up when booting ... the other one won't.  Seems there must be a
>way to select Linux at the SCD menu, and then be sent to the LILO
>prompt.  Thought I read somewhere that LILO has to be installed to
>the "root superblock" (partition boot record), rather than to the MBR
>in order to accomplish this. If this is the case, how would I go about
>it?  Please assume "newbie-speak" when responding, as I'm fairly
>new to Linux.

>Will genuinely appreciate your response.


 
 
 

Using LILO & System Commander

Post by Roy W. Anderse » Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:00:00



>Hello Linux Folks,

>It seems that both LILO (RH5.1) & System Commander Dlxe v4.01
>want to write to the Master Boot Record, which means if one comes
>up when booting ... the other one won't.  Seems there must be a
>way to select Linux at the SCD menu, and then be sent to the LILO
>prompt.  Thought I read somewhere that LILO has to be installed to
>the "root superblock" (partition boot record), rather than to the MBR
>in order to accomplish this. If this is the case, how would I go about
>it?  Please assume "newbie-speak" when responding, as I'm fairly
>new to Linux.

>Will genuinely appreciate your response.


Install LILO onto the first sector of your root partition, and System
Commander to the MBR. That's what I do, and it works fine.

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Hello Linux Folks,

It seems that both LILO (RH5.1) & System Commander Dlxe v4.01
want to write to the Master Boot Record, which means if one comes
up when booting ... the other one won't.  Seems there must be a
way to select Linux at the SCD menu, and then be sent to the LILO
prompt.  Thought I read somewhere that LILO has to be installed to
the "root superblock" (partition boot record), rather than to the MBR
in order to accomplish this. If this is the case, how would I go about
it?  Please assume "newbie-speak" when responding, as I'm fairly
new to Linux.  

Will genuinely appreciate your response.

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