First, let me say. Your cross-posting habits are a littleQuote:>This marks the end of my first week with Linux.
>First, let me state: This is not a troll. I am going to criticize
>Linux, but not bash it. I have a great deal of respect for it and the
>enormous amount of effort so may have put in to developing and advocating
rude. If you are going to start a cross-posted thread,
at least have the decency to set followups.
comp.os.linux.development.system is not particularly relevant.
Live and learn. Your best resource is in /usr/doc/HOWTO.Quote:>It has taken me a full week to even get Linux installed and operating
>correctly with my machine's hardware. The network card itself took 3
>days and calling a Unix geek friend of mine over who ultimately found
>a solution so esoteric that I would have never been able to find it.
>The phrase, "God this sucks" was muttered many many times. Even
>trying to get the desired color depth, resolution, and refresh rate
>from my monitor was scary.
If that fails, try dejanews. If that fails, use the source.
Now, you have it totally wrong. NT is not really biting theQuote:>But Unix is not a modern OS. It is an extension of 20 year old
>philosophies when it comes to computing and UI, and this is one of the
>reasons NT (as bad as it may be) has taken such a huge bite out of the
UNIX market. It is a crappy server, and a decent easy-to-get-
started-on workstation. It is growing in the workstation
market, but not really on the server side, where various
Unix flavors are SO MUCH easier to maintain.
I agree. You should not use Linux.Quote:>This is not to say Unix sucks. At the core, it is a great OS -- very
>reliable, fast, and powerful. But it cannot be reasonably approached
>by anyone but the most savvy and even still, takes considerable time
>to become educated on and gain a reasonable working ability with.
>After using only Macs for 10 years, it took me all of a day to
>install NT 4.0 on a new PC, configure it as a server and put it to
>work in a variety of ways. I rarely needed a manual and even the
>toughest config problems I've run into have yet to take more than a
>day to resolve.
>With Linux, it took me a full day just to figure out how to set my
>monitor's settings the way I wanted it. This is unacceptable.
I agree completely. You should stay with NT and tolerate theQuote:>I know, I know.. Linux is still in its infancy. What I'm trying to
>communicate here is that modern popular expectations from an OS are quite
>different from what many Unix geeks may think.
M$ licensing and pay more for a development environment, and
tolerate repetetive crashes. Did you know that Windows 95 and 98
have a bug that locks the system after 49.7 days of uptime ?
And it took them 4 years to find the bug ?? There is still some
question about whether there was actually a machine on which this
bug could be consistently duplicated.
This is not your corporate OS. If you don't like it, you canQuote:>Linux developers: Study the Mac and Windows GUI's. There's a lot to
>be said in these for what makes a computer truly usable and powerful.
fix it. There is nothing that the developers have that you
don't - it is all in the source.
I suspect you still don't have a good idea of the variety ofQuote:>**** I hope that someday Linux won't look anything like Unix.
looks Unix can take. KDE or GNOME/enlightenment, for example,
look and feel a lot better on the GUI than Windows. CDE, as another
example, is not nearly as nice on the eyes. If you get GNOME 1.0
installed, for example, it will be a brave new world of computing.
Well, you may want to keep trying. Unlike Windows, linuxQuote:>Sorry for all the ranting... You all talked me into trying Linux and
>I'm a bit peeved over my initial experience, and I felt the need to
>express some of that. I want to encourage a thread that will discuss
>where Linux is going in the terms of what I laid out above.
gets more accessible every day, and you only need to configure
it once. Once configured, crashes are rare to non-existent.
I have found linux is consistently easier to install than
Windows. And you have to reboot a whole lot less.