atapi ide cd-rom not detected when using idecd boot disk????!!!!

atapi ide cd-rom not detected when using idecd boot disk????!!!!

Post by Brian Hass » Fri, 07 Jun 1996 04:00:00



Dear Benevolent, Knowledgeable Reader Who can Help Me,

        i have tried booting about seven times using a boot disk with idecd
rawritten onto it and then using a root disk with color.gz rawritten onto it.  
Before i thought that i needed to use a boot disk with mitsumi rawritten onto
it, which i also tried about four times, but someone told me that Mitsumi is
just a manufacturer and that i shouldn't necessarily be using the mitsumi boot
file.  Well, now i'm using the idecd one because it's supposed to work for
"IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM's" according to "Special Edition: Using Linux", and when i
boot DOS it says, on the scrren, "IDE ATAPI CD-ROM driver installed" so i
figure that's the one i should be using.
        EVERY TIME i go into setup, the SOURCE option fails to detect my CD-ROM
drive.  The setup procedure could not possibly be more straightforward, and yet
it isn't working.  Please, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE tell me what is wrong?!?!
        i have also tried booting with the "aidecd" and "bare" boot files
instead.  Nothing works.  The only clue that my computer has given me is the
line: "ide0: primary interface on IRQ 14" when i use any of these on my boot
disk.  i checked System Properties under Win95 and it says that IRQ 14 is
mapped to "Standard IDE/ESDI Hard Disk Controller".  Is that good?
        The name "ide0" makes it sound like i ought to be able to find the
file "/dev/ide0" in the Linux file hierarchy (i CAN get that far; it's during
the installation that the system complains about not being able to find my
CD-ROM).  The file /dev/ide0 is NOT THERE.  Is that bad?
        -P-L-E-A-S-E- -H-E-L-P-!-!-!-!-!-!-

        -Brian

 
 
 

atapi ide cd-rom not detected when using idecd boot disk????!!!!

Post by Ludo Pagi » Fri, 07 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Did you check the jumper settings on the CD_ROM? Should be in 'master'
position if it is the only/first drive on the IDE port, else in 'slave'.
I should know since my new computer came also with a CD_ROM in the
second IDE port (as only drive), configured as slave. Works fine for dos
but not for Linux.

Hope this helps.
Ludo.

 
 
 

atapi ide cd-rom not detected when using idecd boot disk????!!!!

Post by Wilhelm Wienema » Mon, 10 Jun 1996 04:00:00


On 6 Jun 1996 01:47:35 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup, Brian Hassan
: Dear Benevolent, Knowledgeable Reader Who can Help Me,

:       i have tried booting about seven times using a boot disk with
: idecd rawritten onto it and then using a root disk with color.gz
: rawritten onto it. Before i thought that i needed to use a boot disk
: with mitsumi rawritten onto it, which i also tried about four times,
: but someone told me that Mitsumi is just a manufacturer and that i
: shouldn't necessarily be using the mitsumi boot file.  Well, now
: i'm using the idecd one because it's supposed to work for "IDE/ATAPI
: CD-ROM's" according to "Special Edition: Using Linux", and when i
: boot DOS it says, on the scrren, "IDE ATAPI CD-ROM driver installed"
: so i figure that's the one i should be using.
:
:       EVERY TIME i go into setup, the SOURCE option fails to detect
: my CD-ROM drive.  The setup procedure could not possibly be more
: straightforward, and yet it isn't working.  Please, PLEASE, PLEASE,
: PLEASE tell me what is wrong?!?!
:
:       i have also tried booting with the "aidecd" and "bare" boot
: files instead.  Nothing works.  The only clue that my computer has
: given me is the line: "ide0: primary interface on IRQ 14" when i use
: any of these on my boot disk.  i checked System Properties under
: Win95 and it says that IRQ 14 is mapped to "Standard IDE/ESDI Hard
: Disk Controller".  Is that good?
:
:       The name "ide0" makes it sound like i ought to be able to
: find the file "/dev/ide0" in the Linux file hierarchy (i CAN get
: that far; it's during the installation that the system complains
: about not being able to find my CD-ROM).  The file /dev/ide0 is
: NOT THERE.  Is that bad?
:       -P-L-E-A-S-E- -H-E-L-P-!-!-!-!-!-!-

What Type of Mitsumi CD-ROM are you using?

If you are using a Slackware distribution then I'm afraid that
is a classic bug in Slackware. Slackware ist not smart enough to
actually put the installation kernel onto your hard drive. The
result is that installation works, but the crummy standard kernel
on the hard drive cannot find everything.

Just rebuild the kernel from the source code in /usr/src/linux,
being sure to configure support for your cdrom.

        cd /usr/src/linux ; 'make config' or if you are using  
                            the X-Window do a 'make xconfig'
        'make dep'
        'make clean'
        'make zImage'

and then install the resulting zImage file and tell lilo about it.
Therefore it is IMPORTANT that you read the 'Kernel-HOWTO'

If you don't use the Slackware distribution try the following
boot-parameters with starting LINUX:

for an ATAPI CD-ROM:
        'hdx=cdrom' (where 'x' is 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e'
                         depending of the numbers of hard drives)

for Mitsumi CD-ROM:
        'mcd=Port,IRQ[,mcdwait]  (Default: 0x320,10)
        (take 'mcdwait' only after 'timeout'-messages e.g. '2')

Hope it helps.
ciao,
--

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"And since you are the future keepers of everything, including music,
we hope you will keep it well, with love, and in joy." (Frederick Fennell)
 
 
 

atapi ide cd-rom not detected when using idecd boot disk????!!!!

Post by Theodore Sternber » Thu, 13 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:>for an ATAPI CD-ROM:
>    'hdx=cdrom' (where 'x' is 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e'
>                     depending of the numbers of hard drives)

This will work with Slackware too.  As the man says, just enter

        hdb=cdrom

when the boot disk gives you the "boot:" prompt.  Then you'll be ok.  
Your cdrom's files will appear under a directory /cdrom.

Ted Sternberg
San Jose, California, USA

 
 
 

atapi ide cd-rom not detected when using idecd boot disk????!!!!

Post by Mark Niels » Fri, 14 Jun 1996 04:00:00




Quote:>Did you check the jumper settings on the CD_ROM? Should be in 'master'
>position if it is the only/first drive on the IDE port, else in 'slave'.
>I should know since my new computer came also with a CD_ROM in the
>second IDE port (as only drive), configured as slave. Works fine for dos
>but not for Linux.

>Hope this helps.
>Ludo.

I always install dos on my computer when I use unknown architecture just to
verify that there are noe hardware problems. I preset everything in dos.

Mark

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atapi ide cd-rom not detected when using idecd boot disk????!!!!

Post by Marcus Port » Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:00:00






>>Did you check the jumper settings on the CD_ROM? Should be in 'master'
>>position if it is the only/first drive on the IDE port, else in 'slave'.
>>I should know since my new computer came also with a CD_ROM in the
>>second IDE port (as only drive), configured as slave. Works fine for dos
>>but not for Linux.

>>Hope this helps.
>>Ludo.

>I always install dos on my computer when I use unknown architecture just to
>verify that there are noe hardware problems. I preset everything in dos.

I had a similar problem in that an ATAPI IDE cdrom that appeared under
dos was not visable to Linux.  Adding the line hdc=cdrom as a boot option
cleared it up. Of course, you would substitue hdx where x was the (linux)
drive letter of the cd.
Thus, to get the cd containing Slackware 3.0 to be visable to the bootdisk
I made, I typed:
ramdisk hdc=cdrom
at the first prompt I saw when booting from the floppy.
 
 
 

atapi ide cd-rom not detected when using idecd boot disk????!!!!

Post by Lorenzo Di Gregori » Fri, 28 Jun 1996 04:00:00





> >Did you check the jumper settings on the CD_ROM? Should be in 'master'
> >position if it is the only/first drive on the IDE port, else in 'slave'.
> >I should know since my new computer came also with a CD_ROM in the
> >second IDE port (as only drive), configured as slave. Works fine for dos
> >but not for Linux.
> I always install dos on my computer when I use unknown architecture just to
> verify that there are noe hardware problems. I preset everything in dos.

I had the same problem: my cdrom was an eide slave (/dev/hdd) and the "idecd"
bootdisk from Slackware 3.0 didn't recognize it.  I solved this using a
kernel 1.3.20 and making a bootdisk with it.  Just get the kernel and a
friend to compile it, then do: rdev zImage /dev/fd0 and
dd if=zImage of=/dev/fd0 ... put a diskette in the disk drive before ! ;-)

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