Very Computer

>>are to be made during installation?

> Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
> you all will be able to figure out the sticky problem I'm stuck with
> and may even know how to help me out of it. I currently am running
> Windows 98 on one hard disk. However, since it is 7.5 GB and it's
> 32-bit, Linux  won't recognize it when I first install Linux. At least
> that's what I have been told and eventually found out. Besides, sure I
> can download 500 MB in 2 hrs without any trouble via my cable modem,
> but I would still need to copy it to a CD-R or CD-RW disc or something
> and I'm not gonna pay $200 - $400 for CD-R/RW (in case you all wanted
> to know why I would not prefer to copy to a storage device and then
> install). I'm not sure if Linux will do it off my zip disks if I copy
> linux to 6 zip discs. In any case, these wonderful people keep on
> changing the versions of RH Linux. Therefore having got fed up with
> it, I looked in the book which talked about RH Linux and how to
> install. Well, I had versions 3 and 4 of RH but since some of my
> crucial hardware at that time could not be recognized I abandoned RH
> until I finally found out that if I had a direct connection with

> connection with their T1, T3, OC-3, etc... server, then you don't even
> have to download RH linux. All you really have to download are the
> boot.img and supp.img files and transfer them to two blank but
> formatted 3.5" high density disks. So I did just that and booted up my
> machine and when I got to the installation method option, I chose ftp
> method. When I got to the ethernet card question, I 3c509 driver. By
> the way, I still have the 3c509b PnP 16-bit Ethernet adaptor which I
> obtained when I used to attend another university. Rather than sell
> it, I kept it for something like a cable modem. In fact that same
> ethernet card I had was part of the requirements for my cable modem
> installation. Anyway, RH Linux never in the past had any trouble
> recognizing my ethernet card. The only trouble was recognizing my
> video cards,my parallel port zip drive, and my higher capacity hard
> drive. here, in 5.2 that was not the problem. however, when I got to
> the options of DHCP, BOOTP, and Static Address, I chose the Static
> option and filled in my fields correctly. However, I got an error
> message saying unable to connect to host. I fully verified the ftp
> site address and typed it correctly. So I then went back and tried the
> other two options only to get the "no response" error message from
> bootp and dhcp. So the question still remains, isn't it possible to

> are to be made during installation?

> P.S:
> PLEASE DO NO TELL ME TO USE ANOTHER VERSION OF UNIX SINCE I KINDA AM
> USED TO RH LINUX. ALSO, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO PARTITION MY HARD
> DRIVE SINCE MY 75. GB HARD DRIVE IS NEARLY FILLED UP. I PLAN TO
> INSTALL REDHAT LINUX 5.2 TO MY OLDER 730 MB HARD DRIVE SO PLEASE DO
> NOT BRING IN 7.5 GB INTO THE PICTURE UNLESS YOU ARE GONNA GIVE ME A
> FREE CD-RW DRIVE FIRST !!! ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU GIVE ME A
> SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM I GOT. DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
> SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!

> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM I GOT. DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
> SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!

>>>are to be made during installation?
>Yes but do not know how.

>http://www.cheapbytes.com      <<   $1.99 Redhat 5.2 as well as many other Linux
>and Frebsd partitions
>Don't Post to so many newsgroups again

>> Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
>> you all will be able to figure out the sticky problem I'm stuck with
>> and may even know how to help me out of it. I currently am running
>> Windows 98 on one hard disk. However, since it is 7.5 GB and it's
>> 32-bit, Linux  won't recognize it when I first install Linux. At least
>> that's what I have been told and eventually found out. Besides, sure I
>> can download 500 MB in 2 hrs without any trouble via my cable modem,
>> but I would still need to copy it to a CD-R or CD-RW disc or something
>> and I'm not gonna pay $200 - $400 for CD-R/RW (in case you all wanted
>> to know why I would not prefer to copy to a storage device and then
>> install). I'm not sure if Linux will do it off my zip disks if I copy
>> linux to 6 zip discs. In any case, these wonderful people keep on
>> changing the versions of RH Linux. Therefore having got fed up with
>> it, I looked in the book which talked about RH Linux and how to
>> install. Well, I had versions 3 and 4 of RH but since some of my
>> crucial hardware at that time could not be recognized I abandoned RH
>> until I finally found out that if I had a direct connection with

>> connection with their T1, T3, OC-3, etc... server, then you don't even
>> have to download RH linux. All you really have to download are the
>> boot.img and supp.img files and transfer them to two blank but
>> formatted 3.5" high density disks. So I did just that and booted up my
>> machine and when I got to the installation method option, I chose ftp
>> method. When I got to the ethernet card question, I 3c509 driver. By
>> the way, I still have the 3c509b PnP 16-bit Ethernet adaptor which I
>> obtained when I used to attend another university. Rather than sell
>> it, I kept it for something like a cable modem. In fact that same
>> ethernet card I had was part of the requirements for my cable modem
>> installation. Anyway, RH Linux never in the past had any trouble
>> recognizing my ethernet card. The only trouble was recognizing my
>> video cards,my parallel port zip drive, and my higher capacity hard
>> drive. here, in 5.2 that was not the problem. however, when I got to
>> the options of DHCP, BOOTP, and Static Address, I chose the Static
>> option and filled in my fields correctly. However, I got an error
>> message saying unable to connect to host. I fully verified the ftp
>> site address and typed it correctly. So I then went back and tried the
>> other two options only to get the "no response" error message from
>> bootp and dhcp. So the question still remains, isn't it possible to

>> are to be made during installation?

>> P.S:
>> PLEASE DO NO TELL ME TO USE ANOTHER VERSION OF UNIX SINCE I KINDA AM
>> USED TO RH LINUX. ALSO, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO PARTITION MY HARD
>> DRIVE SINCE MY 75. GB HARD DRIVE IS NEARLY FILLED UP. I PLAN TO
>> INSTALL REDHAT LINUX 5.2 TO MY OLDER 730 MB HARD DRIVE SO PLEASE DO
>> NOT BRING IN 7.5 GB INTO THE PICTURE UNLESS YOU ARE GONNA GIVE ME A
>> FREE CD-RW DRIVE FIRST !!! ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU GIVE ME A
>> SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM I GOT. DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
>> SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
>> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!

>> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
>> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

>HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!!:

>> SORRY, DOUGY BOY BUT I AIN'T GONNA PAY. Besides, I still have to make
>> sure my ethernet card works. As for posting, I CAN POST ALL I WANT
>> UNTIL I FIND A DECENT SOLUTION !!!

>You can post until hell itself freezes over, if you don't read the=20
>responses, it isn't going to do a damned bit of good.  As far as I,=20
>and probably most of the other folks here that could help you, are=20
>concerned, you can stick with microsoft for the rest of your life. =20

> Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
> you all will be able to figure out the sticky problem I'm stuck with
> and may even know how to help me out of it. I currently am running
> Windows 98 on one hard disk. However, since it is 7.5 GB and it's
> 32-bit, Linux  won't recognize it when I first install Linux. At least
> that's what I have been told and eventually found out. Besides, sure I
> can download 500 MB in 2 hrs without any trouble via my cable modem,
> but I would still need to copy it to a CD-R or CD-RW disc or something
> and I'm not gonna pay $200 - $400 for CD-R/RW (in case you all wanted
> to know why I would not prefer to copy to a storage device and then
> install). I'm not sure if Linux will do it off my zip disks if I copy
> linux to 6 zip discs. In any case, these wonderful people keep on
> changing the versions of RH Linux. Therefore having got fed up with
> it, I looked in the book which talked about RH Linux and how to
> install. Well, I had versions 3 and 4 of RH but since some of my
> crucial hardware at that time could not be recognized I abandoned RH
> until I finally found out that if I had a direct connection with

> connection with their T1, T3, OC-3, etc... server, then you don't even
> have to download RH linux. All you really have to download are the
> boot.img and supp.img files and transfer them to two blank but
> formatted 3.5" high density disks. So I did just that and booted up my
> machine and when I got to the installation method option, I chose ftp
> method. When I got to the ethernet card question, I 3c509 driver. By
> the way, I still have the 3c509b PnP 16-bit Ethernet adaptor which I
> obtained when I used to attend another university. Rather than sell
> it, I kept it for something like a cable modem. In fact that same
> ethernet card I had was part of the requirements for my cable modem
> installation. Anyway, RH Linux never in the past had any trouble
> recognizing my ethernet card. The only trouble was recognizing my
> video cards,my parallel port zip drive, and my higher capacity hard
> drive. here, in 5.2 that was not the problem. however, when I got to
> the options of DHCP, BOOTP, and Static Address, I chose the Static
> option and filled in my fields correctly. However, I got an error
> message saying unable to connect to host. I fully verified the ftp
> site address and typed it correctly. So I then went back and tried the
> other two options only to get the "no response" error message from
> bootp and dhcp. So the question still remains, isn't it possible to

> are to be made during installation?

> P.S:
> PLEASE DO NO TELL ME TO USE ANOTHER VERSION OF UNIX SINCE I KINDA AM
> USED TO RH LINUX. ALSO, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO PARTITION MY HARD
> DRIVE SINCE MY 75. GB HARD DRIVE IS NEARLY FILLED UP. I PLAN TO
> INSTALL REDHAT LINUX 5.2 TO MY OLDER 730 MB HARD DRIVE

> <snip>
> DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
> SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!

> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> <snip>
>> DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
>> SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
>> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!

>> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
>> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>  using umsdos might be your ticket...

>i agree with doug 'n darren... the tone of your posts does tend discourage the help
>you're seeking...

>> Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
>> you all will be able to figure out the sticky problem I'm stuck with
>> and may even know how to help me out of it. I currently am running
>> Windows 98 on one hard disk. However, since it is 7.5 GB and it's
>> 32-bit, Linux  won't recognize it when I first install Linux. At least
>> that's what I have been told and eventually found out. Besides, sure I
>> can download 500 MB in 2 hrs without any trouble via my cable modem,
>> but I would still need to copy it to a CD-R or CD-RW disc or something
>> and I'm not gonna pay $200 - $400 for CD-R/RW (in case you all wanted
>> to know why I would not prefer to copy to a storage device and then
>> install). I'm not sure if Linux will do it off my zip disks if I copy
>> linux to 6 zip discs. In any case, these wonderful people keep on
>> changing the versions of RH Linux. Therefore having got fed up with
>> it, I looked in the book which talked about RH Linux and how to
>> install. Well, I had versions 3 and 4 of RH but since some of my
>> crucial hardware at that time could not be recognized I abandoned RH
>> until I finally found out that if I had a direct connection with

>> connection with their T1, T3, OC-3, etc... server, then you don't even
>> have to download RH linux. All you really have to download are the
>> boot.img and supp.img files and transfer them to two blank but
>> formatted 3.5" high density disks. So I did just that and booted up my
>> machine and when I got to the installation method option, I chose ftp
>> method. When I got to the ethernet card question, I 3c509 driver. By
>> the way, I still have the 3c509b PnP 16-bit Ethernet adaptor which I
>> obtained when I used to attend another university. Rather than sell
>> it, I kept it for something like a cable modem. In fact that same
>> ethernet card I had was part of the requirements for my cable modem
>> installation. Anyway, RH Linux never in the past had any trouble
>> recognizing my ethernet card. The only trouble was recognizing my
>> video cards,my parallel port zip drive, and my higher capacity hard
>> drive. here, in 5.2 that was not the problem. however, when I got to
>> the options of DHCP, BOOTP, and Static Address, I chose the Static
>> option and filled in my fields correctly. However, I got an error
>> message saying unable to connect to host. I fully verified the ftp
>> site address and typed it correctly. So I then went back and tried the
>> other two options only to get the "no response" error message from
>> bootp and dhcp. So the question still remains, isn't it possible to

>> are to be made during installation?

>> P.S:
>> PLEASE DO NO TELL ME TO USE ANOTHER VERSION OF UNIX SINCE I KINDA AM
>> USED TO RH LINUX. ALSO, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO PARTITION MY HARD
>> DRIVE SINCE MY 75. GB HARD DRIVE IS NEARLY FILLED UP. I PLAN TO
>> INSTALL REDHAT LINUX 5.2 TO MY OLDER 730 MB HARD DRIVE

>DOWNLOAD the RH files to your   FAT32 hard drive  and install using hard
>disk...........................................................................................................................

>> SO PLEASE DO
>> NOT BRING IN 7.5 GB INTO THE PICTURE UNLESS YOU ARE GONNA GIVE ME A
>> FREE CD-RW DRIVE FIRST !!! ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU GIVE ME A
>> SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM I GOT. DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
>> SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
>> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!

>> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
>> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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>Hash: SHA1

>[newsgroup line trimmed to get rid of ridiculous crossposting]

>    drg> P.S: PLEASE DO NO TELL ME TO USE ANOTHER VERSION OF UNIX
>    drg> SINCE I KINDA AM USED TO RH LINUX. ALSO, PLEASE DO NOT TELL
>    drg> ME HOW TO PARTITION MY HARD DRIVE SINCE MY 75. GB HARD DRIVE
>    drg> IS NEARLY FILLED UP. I PLAN TO INSTALL REDHAT LINUX 5.2 TO MY
>    drg> OLDER 730 MB HARD DRIVE SO PLEASE DO NOT BRING IN 7.5 GB INTO
>    drg> THE PICTURE UNLESS YOU ARE GONNA GIVE ME A FREE CD-RW DRIVE
>    drg> FIRST !!! ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU GIVE ME A SOLUTION FOR
>    drg> THE PROBLEM I GOT. DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH** SUCH AS
>    drg> TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
>    drg> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM
>    drg> !!!

>Dang, you're a rude bastard, aren't you.  I wonder why anyone would
><want> to help you.  Hmm, maybe they're just nice people ... unlike
>you.

>BTW, nobody here is <required> to help you, no matter how many rude
>messages you post.  They may ... they may not.

>mp

>8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8

>while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
>if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
>if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
>substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
>$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
>printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
>8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8

>- --
>                         Michael Powe

>                     Portland, Oregon USA

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>> Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
>> you all will be able to figure out the sticky problem I'm stuck with
>> and may even know how to help me out of it. I currently am running
>> Windows 98 on one hard disk. However, since it is 7.5 GB and it's
>> 32-bit, Linux  won't recognize it when I first install Linux... <snip>

>> P.S:
>> PLEASE DO NO TELL ME TO USE ANOTHER VERSION OF UNIX SINCE I KINDA AM
>> USED TO RH LINUX. ALSO, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO PARTITION MY HARD
>> DRIVE SINCE MY 75. GB HARD DRIVE IS NEARLY FILLED UP...  <snip>

>> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
>> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>This may not be the complete solution, but it is something to consider. The first
>issue is your vfat32 partition. That is a kernel issue and not RedHat specific. I
>have read that kernel 2.0.36 is able to access a vfat32 partition. I can't verify
>that, but I am using a development kernel 2.1.132 which has no problem with my
>Win98 vfat32 partition. Your problem as I see it, is that the basic kernel image
>you have downloaded isn't set up to handle a vfat32 partition. I know with your
>wining personality you could find someone who can build you a custom kernel image
>with the necessary modules built in so that it can access your vfat32 partition.
>Then use windows to download everything you need, to your 7 GB drive. Oh and you
>need loadlin. There's HOWTOs available via HTML on how to use loadlin. Reboot to a
>dos prompt and boot linux from your vfat32 partition using loadlin and the
>customized kernel image. This would get around your ethernet card problem, until
>you have a full Linux system running.

>Also I would think you need more then just 2 floppy disks. You would need the
>entire base system on floppys. That way you would have all the basic drivers
>available, such as the ethernet drivers,  vfat driver and a basic ftp application.
>I might be wrong, but on kernel versions before 2.0.36 the vfat driver allowed you
>to access a win95 partition with its long file names. Starting with kernel 2.0.36
>it is able to access a vfat32 partition. I'm sure that would require more then  2
>floppy disks. For example, with Debian, it requires a total of 6 floppy disks. But
>what do I know

>For what it's worth - Good Luck

>--
>Mike Thoreson

> Fine, I'll take it there then. I ask a question and end up with most
> people giving mentally retarded answers in return but that's o.k. The
> world's full of stupid idiots.

> On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 03:25:00 +0900, Mike Thoreson

> >> Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
> >> you all will be able to figure out the sticky problem I'm stuck with
> >> and may even know how to help me out of it. I currently am running
> >> Windows 98 on one hard disk. However, since it is 7.5 GB and it's
> >> 32-bit, Linux  won't recognize it when I first install Linux... <snip>

> >> P.S:
> >> PLEASE DO NO TELL ME TO USE ANOTHER VERSION OF UNIX SINCE I KINDA AM
> >> USED TO RH LINUX. ALSO, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO PARTITION MY HARD
> >> DRIVE SINCE MY 75. GB HARD DRIVE IS NEARLY FILLED UP...  <snip>

> >> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
> >> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).

> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >This may not be the complete solution, but it is something to consider. The first
> >issue is your vfat32 partition. That is a kernel issue and not RedHat specific. I
> >have read that kernel 2.0.36 is able to access a vfat32 partition. I can't verify
> >that, but I am using a development kernel 2.1.132 which has no problem with my
> >Win98 vfat32 partition. Your problem as I see it, is that the basic kernel image
> >you have downloaded isn't set up to handle a vfat32 partition. I know with your
> >wining personality you could find someone who can build you a custom kernel image
> >with the necessary modules built in so that it can access your vfat32 partition.
> >Then use windows to download everything you need, to your 7 GB drive. Oh and you
> >need loadlin. There's HOWTOs available via HTML on how to use loadlin. Reboot to a
> >dos prompt and boot linux from your vfat32 partition using loadlin and the
> >customized kernel image. This would get around your ethernet card problem, until
> >you have a full Linux system running.

> >Also I would think you need more then just 2 floppy disks. You would need the
> >entire base system on floppys. That way you would have all the basic drivers
> >available, such as the ethernet drivers,  vfat driver and a basic ftp application.
> >I might be wrong, but on kernel versions before 2.0.36 the vfat driver allowed you
> >to access a win95 partition with its long file names. Starting with kernel 2.0.36
> >it is able to access a vfat32 partition. I'm sure that would require more then  2
> >floppy disks. For example, with Debian, it requires a total of 6 floppy disks. But
> >what do I know

> >For what it's worth - Good Luck

> >--
> >Mike Thoreson