Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Marcus Bachhube » Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:00:00



I was wondering if Linux can coexist with Windows 95.  Also, how would
I go about installing Linux to make it work?

 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Mike Fris » Fri, 25 Oct 1996 04:00:00



>I was wondering if Linux can coexist with Windows 95.  Also, how would
>I go about installing Linux to make it work?

        Perhaps the safest way to do this is to leave a free partition
(or partitions) after your Windows '95 partition(s), install Linux
there, and boot from a floppy.  That way you won't interfere with the
Windows '95 loader (which I believe cannot be made to boot Linux like
the NT loader will).

        If you don't want to boot from a floppy, just remember that only
the kernel loads from the floppy and once it's loaded, it's never
accessing again.  In other words, the only slowdown you see from using a
boot floppy is the initial load time and even still, it's not much
slower than booting from hard drive considering a considering a
compressed kernel is less than 500K.

Mike.

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Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Bob Nielse » Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:00:00




> >I was wondering if Linux can coexist with Windows 95.  Also, how would
> >I go about installing Linux to make it work?

>         Perhaps the safest way to do this is to leave a free partition
> (or partitions) after your Windows '95 partition(s), install Linux
> there, and boot from a floppy.  That way you won't interfere with the
> Windows '95 loader (which I believe cannot be made to boot Linux like
> the NT loader will).

You can set Win95 up to use a boot menu in config.sys, just like DOS 6.
This can be used with LOADLIN to boot Linux.  You will need to copy
loadlin.exe and the zImage file to the Win95 partition.  See the
documentation which comes with LOADLIN for details.

Bob

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Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Rich Abbo » Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:00:00




> >I was wondering if Linux can coexist with Windows 95.  Also, how would
> >I go about installing Linux to make it work?

>         Perhaps the safest way to do this is to leave a free partition
> (or partitions) after your Windows '95 partition(s), install Linux
> there, and boot from a floppy.

Here's what worked for me: Win 95 installed on the first 1/4 of my HD
(a VFAT partition, active and bootable), and Linux installed on the
remaining 3/4 of the drive (a native Linux e2fs partition).  I can
boot from floppy, as Mike suggests, but most of the time I boot into
DOS or Win 95 on the first partition, and then activate Loadlin from
there to start Linux.  Works like a charm, no floppies required.  I
also have a Linux icon on my Win 95 desktop which runs Loadlin.
I use it whenver I need to escape to a saner universe!

Good luck,

Rich

 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Georg Karawa » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00



> I was wondering if Linux can coexist with Windows 95.  Also, how would
> I go about installing Linux to make it work?

Install Win 95
Install Linux in its OWN partition. Mine exists on the
SECOND hard disk. In other words, Linux does NOT need to be on
the first hard disk.
Create a file /etc/lilo.conf that specifies Win95 and Linux
as the two boot options. The first option is the default. Be
careful to install lilo in the MASTER BOOT RECORD of the
first hard disk. Read the LILO documentation carefully, before
activating LILO.
Now when you boot you will see the prompt:
LILO
Hit the CTRL key by itself and you will get a menu like
Win95 Linux
type your choice and hit ENTER.
This allows you to boot either system Win95 or Linux. Mine actually
boots Win95, or WinNT or Linux.
Good Luck
 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Robert Goodw » Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:00:00


: >

: > >I was wondering if Linux can coexist with Windows 95.  Also, how would
: > >I go about installing Linux to make it work?
: >
: >         Perhaps the safest way to do this is to leave a free partition
: > (or partitions) after your Windows '95 partition(s), install Linux
: > there, and boot from a floppy.  That way you won't interfere with the
: > Windows '95 loader (which I believe cannot be made to boot Linux like
: > the NT loader will).

When I first partitioned my drive (540MB) I only did 300MB of it and
loaded Win95.  Then once I had 95 working I booted to my linux boot disk
and fdisked the rest of the drive for linux.  Once linux was installed, I
configured and installed lilo.  No problems at all.

Now when I boot I get a LILO message and a 3sec delay for me to hit the
shift key to get a prompt.  I then can type Windoze_95 or Linux.  If I
don't hit the shift key it goes straight into windows.  No flames please
for having this as the default.  My system in on 24hrs a day and in Linux
95% of that time.  This just made more sense for my needs.

rob

 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Gar » Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:00:00


On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 22:03:54 -0500, Georg Karawas



>> I was wondering if Linux can coexist with Windows 95.  Also, how would
>> I go about installing Linux to make it work?

>Install Win 95
>Install Linux in its OWN partition. Mine exists on the
>SECOND hard disk. In other words, Linux does NOT need to be on
>the first hard disk.
>Create a file /etc/lilo.conf that specifies Win95 and Linux
>as the two boot options. The first option is the default. Be
>careful to install lilo in the MASTER BOOT RECORD of the
>first hard disk. Read the LILO documentation carefully, before
>activating LILO.
>Now when you boot you will see the prompt:
>LILO
>Hit the CTRL key by itself and you will get a menu like
>Win95 Linux
>type your choice and hit ENTER.
>This allows you to boot either system Win95 or Linux. Mine actually
>boots Win95, or WinNT or Linux.
>Good Luck

I highly recommend using System Commander to manager your OS boot
options.  I'm using it to boot WIN311, WIN95, WIN-NT, and Linux.  The
beauty of this boot manager is that each OS is completely isolated
from each other.  It is very easy to install and provides important
install info about each OS.  For more info, go to:

http://www.v-com.com/syscomm.html

Also, I recommend Partition Magic to handle disk partitioning.  For
more info, go to:

http://www.powerquest.com/

-gary

 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Matthew Cummin » Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:00:00




Quote:> Install Win 95
> Install Linux in its OWN partition. Mine exists on the
> SECOND hard disk. In other words, Linux does NOT need to be on
> the first hard disk.
> Create a file /etc/lilo.conf that specifies Win95 and Linux
> as the two boot options. The first option is the default. Be
> careful to install lilo in the MASTER BOOT RECORD of the

I wonder why I can't do this with my system?  I have a WD 420 MB drive for
the first drive, and a 1.2 gb WD for the slave drive, which contains linux
with Win95 being on the 420M drive.

I can't get lilo to do a thing with this, though if I make a floppy and copy
the /boot/* stuff to it (ext2 fs) and then use this lilo.conf it will look
at the floppy and let me select the OS's. Why does it work with a floppy,
but not the MBR of the primary ide drive?  I did change the fd0 reference to
hda and it's no go.

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Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Shaita » Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:00:00



>On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 22:03:54 -0500, Georg Karawas


>>> I was wondering if Linux can coexist with Windows 95.  Also, how would
>>> I go about installing Linux to make it work?

>>Install Win 95
>>Install Linux in its OWN partition. Mine exists on the
>>SECOND hard disk. In other words, Linux does NOT need to be on
>>the first hard disk.
>>Create a file /etc/lilo.conf that specifies Win95 and Linux
>>as the two boot options. The first option is the default. Be
>>careful to install lilo in the MASTER BOOT RECORD of the
>>first hard disk. Read the LILO documentation carefully, before
>>activating LILO.
>>Now when you boot you will see the prompt:
>>LILO
>>Hit the CTRL key by itself and you will get a menu like
>>Win95 Linux
>>type your choice and hit ENTER.
>>This allows you to boot either system Win95 or Linux. Mine actually
>>boots Win95, or WinNT or Linux.
>>Good Luck
>I highly recommend using System Commander to manager your OS boot
>options.  I'm using it to boot WIN311, WIN95, WIN-NT, and Linux.  The
>beauty of this boot manager is that each OS is completely isolated
>from each other.  It is very easy to install and provides important
>install info about each OS.  For more info, go to:
>http://www.v-com.com/syscomm.html

I recomend using LILO. Its free and does the same thing. For more info
look into the man pages. Comes with most disributions of
linux/freeBSD.

Quote:>Also, I recommend Partition Magic to handle disk partitioning.  For
>more info, go to:
>http://www.powerquest.com/

I recomend using fips for the same reason I recomend LILO.

Quote:>-gary

So tell me, do you also pedal snake oil in your free time?

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Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Georg Karawa » Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:00:00






> > Install Win 95
> > Install Linux in its OWN partition. Mine exists on the
> > SECOND hard disk. In other words, Linux does NOT need to be on
> > the first hard disk.
> > Create a file /etc/lilo.conf that specifies Win95 and Linux
> > as the two boot options. The first option is the default. Be
> > careful to install lilo in the MASTER BOOT RECORD of the

> I wonder why I can't do this with my system?  I have a WD 420 MB drive
for
> the first drive, and a 1.2 gb WD for the slave drive, which contains
linux
> with Win95 being on the 420M drive.

> [snip]

If your second hard disk has MORE than 1024 cylinders, chances are
that LILO will complain.
To verify this, create a "/etc/lilo.conf" file by hand and then type:
lilo -t
This will "test" whether lilo works correctly, without actually
changing the master boot record.
If you get an error diagnsotic stating that the number of cylinders
is too big, you are probably out of luck.
Hope this helps.
 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Matthew Cummin » Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:00:00




Quote:> Hope this helps.

Not really.  I put my thinking cap on and solved it though, see I got the
error message L 01 with 01 repeating, I knew (and this was the problem) that
I had 2 drives setup.  My lilo installed correctly, but always gave me the L
01 which meant that the second stage loader wouldn't work, now why when the
disk was there, because it wasn't in Bios.  I assumed it was in my bios
since I put it in a long time ago and had since removed it, and since Linux
was the only OS to use the second drive, and it doesn't use bios it worked.

I accidentally read the boot text bios puts out and noticed it missing,
added it and all worked well.

Do you know how much time I've wasted on this problem when it was so easy to
solve?  Too much!!!
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Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Duncan Simps » Fri, 01 Nov 1996 04:00:00



>If your second hard disk has MORE than 1024 cylinders, chances are
>that LILO will complain.
>To verify this, create a "/etc/lilo.conf" file by hand and then type:
>lilo -t
>This will "test" whether lilo works correctly, without actually
>changing the master boot record.
>If you get an error diagnsotic stating that the number of cylinders
>is too big, you are probably out of luck.

If you use geometry translation or (better) create a small boot
partition with max. cylinder <1024 with a kernel image and the stuff
lilo needs then you should have no problems. You can use the rest of
the space by mounting it somewhere appropiate (or split into several
peices and mount them on /home, /usr or whatever as you see fit).

Duncan (-:

 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Michael Hentg » Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:00:00




>>If your second hard disk has MORE than 1024 cylinders, chances are
>>that LILO will complain.
>>To verify this, create a "/etc/lilo.conf" file by hand and then type:
>>lilo -t
>>This will "test" whether lilo works correctly, without actually
>>changing the master boot record.
>>If you get an error diagnsotic stating that the number of cylinders
>>is too big, you are probably out of luck.
>If you use geometry translation or (better) create a small boot
>partition with max. cylinder <1024 with a kernel image and the stuff
>lilo needs then you should have no problems. You can use the rest of
>the space by mounting it somewhere appropiate (or split into several
>peices and mount them on /home, /usr or whatever as you see fit).
>Duncan (-:

During the RedHat installation I was able to write the LILO
information to a floppy (I used the boot floppy that I used for the
installation - not sure if that was a good idea...) LILO is evidently
small enough that it loads *very* fast from the floppy - it works out
pretty well, and doesn't conflict with my Win95 configuration...

Michael Hentges, Senior Consultant
CSC Consulting and Systems Integration, Minneapolis, MN

http://www.winternet.com/~mhentge

 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by Hrvoje Vul » Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:00:00




: >>If your second hard disk has MORE than 1024 cylinders, chances are
: >>that LILO will complain.
: >>To verify this, create a "/etc/lilo.conf" file by hand and then type:
: >>lilo -t
[deleted]

Why even bother with LILO? I use loadlin.exe (from CDs). All I had to
do was cp /zimage /DOS (if you mounted your dos/win95 disk as /DOS) and
then from DOS : loadlin zimage root=/dev/hda3 rw

or if linux is on second physical disk:
loadlin zimage root=/dev/hdb rw

What's wrong with that? I think it is much easyer than playing with LILO
(especialy if you have a large disk).I even have that loadlin statement
as a menuitem in my config/autoexec files in dos....

bye

--
Hrvoje Vulin at PMF Zagreb , CROATIA

       URL: http://student.math.hr/~hvulin/


 
 
 

Windows 95 Coexisting with Linux

Post by The Ed » Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Actually.... it is possible...using boot disk is better idea as with Win
95 has this habit of re-writing the boot sector (thus killing Lilo), if
you make certain system changes (some which require Windoze to restart.
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