RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Bill Oliv » Thu, 03 May 2001 21:10:28



Hi!  I just installed RedHat 7.1 on a dual-boot Compaq E4600 (Pentium
4, 30GB HD, 256MB RAM) system, with Windoze 2000 on the other
partition.

Most things worked fine out of the box -- dual boot (in spite of dire
warnings that I might have to use the boot floppy), video, network,
etc.

The sound card, however, isn't working.  

Sndconfig correctly identifies it as a Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live!
EMU10000

Looking at the /var/log/messages file after running
sndconfig, I find:

May  2 07:40:12 butner kernel: Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver,
version 0.7, 20:53:49 Apr 8 2001

May  2 07:40:12 butner kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 02:0a.0

May  2 07:40:12 butner kernel: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8032 found, IO at
0xdf80-0xdf9f, IRQ 3

May  2 07:40:12 butner modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
sound-service-0-0

On the Windoze side, the card is noted to be a Creative SB Live!(WDM),
but at IRQ number 9.  The IO address 0xdf80-0xdf9f is the same.
It's identified at PCI slot 2 (PCI bus 2, device 10, function 0).

So, I see two differences and one worrying error:

I don't know if there is a difference between a SoundBlaster Live!
EM10000 and a SoundBlaster Live! (WDM)

I don't know if the IRQ 3 vs IRQ 9 thing is a problem or reflects
a software reset.

I don't know what the  "can't locate module sound-service-0-0"
error implies -- is this a module I should find somewhere on
the distribution diskette?  If so, how can I force it to load?

Any pointers would be appreciated!
Thanks!

 
 
 

RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Rasmus B?g Hanse » Thu, 03 May 2001 21:50:31



Quote:> The sound card, however, isn't working.

Have you turned up the volume? This is more often a problem, than one
would think.

Quote:> I don't know if there is a difference between a SoundBlaster Live!
> EM10000 and a SoundBlaster Live! (WDM)

Emu10000 (or emu10k) is the name of the chip on the soundblaster live.
WDM is some strange win2k-ism (some kinf of driver name I think).

Quote:> I don't know if the IRQ 3 vs IRQ 9 thing is a problem or reflects
> a software reset.

Just reflects that Windows 2000 is messing around with the IRQ's.

Quote:> I don't know what the  "can't locate module sound-service-0-0"
> error implies -- is this a module I should find somewhere on
> the distribution diskette?  If so, how can I force it to load?

This should be no problem - I get it a lot of times. You could, however,
try to put 'alias sound-service-0-0 emu10k' in /etc/modules.conf.

Rasmus

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RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Bill Oliv » Thu, 03 May 2001 23:12:26





>> The sound card, however, isn't working.

>Have you turned up the volume? This is more often a problem, than one
>would think.

Heh.  Yeah, it's one of those "is it plugged in" kind of things that
is so basic that nobody actually checks.

Well, to be honest, I'm not sure.  I have the sound on the *speakers*
turned all the way up, and Windoze is loud.  I tried setting the
volume high with the XPlayCD and CDPlayer, etc. (which is the
only way I know to set the volume) and it is still silent.  There
is *nothing* coming out of  sndconfig -- which is rather loud on my other
boxes.

Quote:>> I don't know what the  "can't locate module sound-service-0-0"
>> error implies -- is this a module I should find somewhere on
>> the distribution diskette?  If so, how can I force it to load?

>This should be no problem - I get it a lot of times. You could, however,
>try to put 'alias sound-service-0-0 emu10k' in /etc/modules.conf.

I suspected it wasn't a big deal -- that line is an intermittent
one, while the problem is constant.

I looked at the RedHat discussion boards and there was a discussion
of SoundBlaster cards in RH 7.0.  One solution suggested was to
turn off automatic PnP probing at the BIOS level.  Unfortunately,
that option was not present when I looked at the the Gateway
boot options.  Sigh.

billo

 
 
 

RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Rasmus B?g Hanse » Thu, 03 May 2001 23:42:14



Quote:> >> The sound card, however, isn't working.

> >Have you turned up the volume? This is more often a problem, than one
> >would think.

> Heh.  Yeah, it's one of those "is it plugged in" kind of things that
> is so basic that nobody actually checks.

> Well, to be honest, I'm not sure.  I have the sound on the *speakers*
> turned all the way up, and Windoze is loud.  I tried setting the
> volume high with the XPlayCD and CDPlayer, etc. (which is the
> only way I know to set the volume) and it is still silent.  There
> is *nothing* coming out of  sndconfig -- which is rather loud on my other
> boxes.

aumix is normally always installed on RedHat systems. Start a console
and run aumix. Here you should be able to set volumes. You have to turn
up 'master' and 'PCM' (for digitized sound like mp3) and
'CD' or 'Line in' for cd. I do not know the mixer in the sbLive in
details, so you'll have to figure out more details yourself.

If aumix starts and show different channels to turn up/down, it is
_probably_ not a driver problem...

Quote:> I looked at the RedHat discussion boards and there was a discussion
> of SoundBlaster cards in RH 7.0.  One solution suggested was to
> turn off automatic PnP probing at the BIOS level.  Unfortunately,
> that option was not present when I looked at the the Gateway
> boot options.  Sigh.

The module is installed (your logs said so), so you probably do not need
to fiddle with those things.

Rasmus

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RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Peter T. Breue » Thu, 03 May 2001 23:42:43






>>> The sound card, however, isn't working.
>>Have you turned up the volume? This is more often a problem, than one
>>would think.
> Well, to be honest, I'm not sure.  I have the sound on the *speakers*
> turned all the way up, and Windoze is loud.  I tried setting the
> volume high with the XPlayCD and CDPlayer, etc. (which is the
> only way I know to set the volume) and it is still silent.  There

And what about the mixer? ([xgk]*mix[er], amixer, alsamixer, ...)

Peter

 
 
 

RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Bill Oliv » Fri, 04 May 2001 00:55:46





>If aumix starts and show different channels to turn up/down, it is
>_probably_ not a driver problem...

Well, it starts and I can move all the "O"s back and forth, but
there's still no sound -- either from an audio CD *or* from the
.wav files in the sound part of the Gnome Control Center.

This is kind of amusing, actually.  I have Linux on a desktop
and my laptop.  RH 7.1 installs beautifully on my laptop (an
HP Pavilion N5190), with full support of the network, video,
CD/DVD, and sound.  It's my new *desktop* that I'm having problems
with.  This is the opposite of the situation I have traditionally
had -- laptop support was always the hassle.

billo

 
 
 

RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Bill Oliv » Fri, 04 May 2001 00:56:41




Quote:

>And what about the mixer? ([xgk]*mix[er], amixer, alsamixer, ...)

>Peter

No joy there, either. Please see my reply to Rasmus.

billo

 
 
 

RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Peter T. Breue » Fri, 04 May 2001 01:27:19





>>And what about the mixer? ([xgk]*mix[er], amixer, alsamixer, ...)
> No joy there, either. Please see my reply to Rasmus.

Please get used to the medium. No quote, no see.

Are you sure you used a mixer, and not the xmcd or kcd controls?
They can't do much good until the output is actually mixed IN, and the
master volume is turned UP.

Peter

 
 
 

RH 7.1 "Can't locate module"/soundcard question

Post by Rasmus B?g Hanse » Fri, 04 May 2001 01:48:14



Quote:> >If aumix starts and show different channels to turn up/down, it is
> >_probably_ not a driver problem...

> Well, it starts and I can move all the "O"s back and forth, but
> there's still no sound -- either from an audio CD *or* from the
> .wav files in the sound part of the Gnome Control Center.

So it's probably not a driver problem when the mixer works.

Quote:> This is kind of amusing, actually.  I have Linux on a desktop
> and my laptop.  RH 7.1 installs beautifully on my laptop (an
> HP Pavilion N5190), with full support of the network, video,
> CD/DVD, and sound.  It's my new *desktop* that I'm having problems
> with.  This is the opposite of the situation I have traditionally
> had -- laptop support was always the hassle.

have you turned all of them all the way up (and turned the speakers up)?

I have a SB PCI64 and I have to turn then up over 80% before I can hear
sound (but then it works fine)...

Rasmus

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