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I have been told that a product exists which allows Microsoft WindowsNT
to be run as a process within Linux.  That is, the machine can be
booted into Linux and then NT can be started as process within Linux.

What is the name of that product and how may I obtain it?

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Before you buy.

VMWare (www.vmware.com). Pretty expensive though.

MST

Quote:> > I have been told that a product exists which allows Microsoft WindowsNT
> > to be run as a process within Linux.  That is, the machine can be
> > booted into Linux and then NT can be started as process within Linux.

> > What is the name of that product and how may I obtain it?

> VMWare (www.vmware.com). Pretty expensive though.

actually... only $99 as an educational customer.

It works very well - of course you should have some a fast processor and a
healthy amount of RAM.

You can run a variety of *guest* operating systems - I've tried Win98,
FreeBSD, and Linux.

You should be able to get your sound, networking, and video working well...
if it works under Linux.

just for trivia - the computer science department at the university here
runs Linux on Linux... so we can have root access, etc... for an operating
systems class - without harming a *real* installation.

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> MST

I run Windows 98 in a window on my desktop using a great inexpensive
program call Win4Lin.  It works as advertised.  I believe it will run NT
as well.
Brian

Hi
Its prolly vmware. Do a search on the net for vmware. i heard that u
need a lot of ram though

good luck

Quote:> Has anyone compared VMWare and Win4Lin?

I haven't used Win4Lin... but with VMWare you can also choose to 'suspend'
your guest operating system... and then 'power-on' again - much faster than
a full boot from scratch.

Has anyone compared VMWare and Win4Lin?

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Pardon me for butting in, but does VMWare run the guest OS in a linux
process? In other words, do you still enjoy pre-emptive multitasking
between guest OSs? How does VMWare overcome NT's steely determination to
control access to the hardware itself>

Harry

As long as each guest OS is withing a different process, then sure.  How
it handles preemptive multitasking withing a guest OS, I don't know.
Check out www.plex86.org.  You might find some clues there.

Quote:> How does VMWare overcome NT's steely determination to
> control access to the hardware itself>

I believe the VM in VMware stands for Virtual Machine.  You just give NT
a virtual device and it doesn't know the difference.  It's all just bits
and bytes when you get down to it.

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DG

(remove the Z's--they're what I do when I read SPAM!)

Sure. Win4Lin (actually, Trelos) has.  And they are quite honest.  Check
out www.trelos.com for more info.

One big difference is that Win4Lin only runs windows95/98 and probably
dos6.x or dos7.  It won't run other operating systems or windowsNT or
2000.  I don't know about windowsME, but I doubt it.

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DG

(remove the Z's--they're what I do when I read SPAM!)

Think of an entire machine virtually booting in another machine.  This is
not an emulator.  When you boot a VMware session, you see a physical
(virtual) phoenix bios booting.  NT thinks it has control of the hardware
because there are virtual devices it finds for itself.  You can also do
multiple guest sessions and copy and paste between them, etc.

As far as pre-emptive multitasking, you enjoy the benefits and the
limitations inherent in the machine you are booting.  If its prone to blue
screen and crash at unusual times, it will do just that.  

So NT's steely determination is a facade and NT becomes just another
application to Linux.  Linux can run other applications while NT is running
and start processes that control hardware like networking, video, etc.

But... The serious side to this is it takes some guts for the host system.
It kinda goes along with booting one inside another. I run it in a smp dell
box.  It chugs right along.  I also have three other virtual guest OS'es
including a 98 and a linux one to play with.

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Michael Perry          

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