NEC CD-ROM Driver

NEC CD-ROM Driver

Post by KimonoMa » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00



Looked everywhere I could think of trying to find a driver for an old
NEC-3XP CD-ROM. It's a SCSI version and I'll need it if I ever intend to
try installing Linux.

I know: I could buy a different CD but, lack of funds prevents that for
now.

I finally worked up a method to make a ZIP SCSI work thru a
parallel-port adapter (installing to a laptop) so I can make a backup of
the drive before starting. But, without a good working CD driver, the
ZIP is pointless.

Anyone have one that works?

 
 
 

NEC CD-ROM Driver

Post by Roy Stogn » Thu, 01 Jan 1998 04:00:00



>Looked everywhere I could think of trying to find a driver for an old
>NEC-3XP CD-ROM. It's a SCSI version and I'll need it if I ever intend to
>try installing Linux.

If it's a SCSI CD-ROM, odds are it will work without any special drivers;
there is a standard for SCSI CD-ROM commands, unlike IDE-connected models.

You may want to make sure you have a supported SCSI host adapter card,
however again I don't know of any unsupported models off hand.
---
Roy Stogner

 
 
 

NEC CD-ROM Driver

Post by Anthony W. Youngma » Fri, 02 Jan 1998 04:00:00





>>Looked everywhere I could think of trying to find a driver for an old
>>NEC-3XP CD-ROM. It's a SCSI version and I'll need it if I ever intend to
>>try installing Linux.

>If it's a SCSI CD-ROM, odds are it will work without any special drivers;
>there is a standard for SCSI CD-ROM commands, unlike IDE-connected models.

>You may want to make sure you have a supported SCSI host adapter card,
>however again I don't know of any unsupported models off hand.

Is that one that goes *in* the pc? Adaptec are *NOT* supported. Advansys
write the Linux driver for their own cards. Go for Advansys, Buslogic or
NCR (the JazDirect is also supposedly both good and cheap).

--
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to a doughnut. These sugarcoated trousers have yet to catch on at fast-food
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NEC CD-ROM Driver

Post by Roy Stogn » Sun, 04 Jan 1998 04:00:00






>>>Looked everywhere I could think of trying to find a driver for an old
>>>NEC-3XP CD-ROM. It's a SCSI version and I'll need it if I ever intend to
>>>try installing Linux.

>>If it's a SCSI CD-ROM, odds are it will work without any special drivers;
>>there is a standard for SCSI CD-ROM commands, unlike IDE-connected models.

>>You may want to make sure you have a supported SCSI host adapter card,
>>however again I don't know of any unsupported models off hand.

>Is that one that goes *in* the pc? Adaptec are *NOT* supported. Advansys
>write the Linux driver for their own cards. Go for Advansys, Buslogic or
>NCR (the JazDirect is also supposedly both good and cheap).

Adaptec cards are supported; "make menuconfig" and look for yourself.
Doubtless, these drivers are written by a Linux hacker supporting Adaptec
instead of Adaptec programmers supporting Linux, but they are there.
---
Roy Stogner
 
 
 

NEC CD-ROM Driver

Post by Anthony W. Youngma » Mon, 05 Jan 1998 04:00:00








>>>>Looked everywhere I could think of trying to find a driver for an old
>>>>NEC-3XP CD-ROM. It's a SCSI version and I'll need it if I ever intend to
>>>>try installing Linux.

>>>If it's a SCSI CD-ROM, odds are it will work without any special drivers;
>>>there is a standard for SCSI CD-ROM commands, unlike IDE-connected models.

>>>You may want to make sure you have a supported SCSI host adapter card,
>>>however again I don't know of any unsupported models off hand.

>>Is that one that goes *in* the pc? Adaptec are *NOT* supported. Advansys
>>write the Linux driver for their own cards. Go for Advansys, Buslogic or
>>NCR (the JazDirect is also supposedly both good and cheap).

>Adaptec cards are supported; "make menuconfig" and look for yourself.
>Doubtless, these drivers are written by a Linux hacker supporting Adaptec
>instead of Adaptec programmers supporting Linux, but they are there.

By "unsupported" I meant "if it doesn't work for you, then it probably
won't get fixed". The old adaptec drivers *usually* work with the new
cards. But if for some reason they don't you're on your own. Adaptec do
not release the information required to write a proper driver. If it
doesn't work, you cannot determine whether the card is faulty or the
driver is buggy.

On the other hand, the interface definition for the NCR is, I believe,
freely available so it is possible to ask the question "is the card
behaving as per spec" and get a meaningful answer. And if a buslogic
card doesn't work, they are responsible for card AND driver, so the
problem can only lie in one place. So those two *are* supported, because
the necessary information is available.

There is bit of a move in c.o.l.hardware (I think) to get people to buy
NCR, buslogic etc and fax the receipt to adaptec with a message "you
lost this sale because you refuse to make available the information
required to support your cards". Apparently Diamond video cards are now
supported hardware because a lot of people did just that.

In short, the adaptec drivers are *old*. They do not keep pace with new
cards because adaptec refuse to make the required information available.
There are people who try and keep the drivers up-to-date, but they are
not supported hardware because it is *impossible* to modify the drivers
in accordance with the hardware spec, because the hardware spec is *not*
available.
--
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Trousers with a single hole in their waistband are topologically equivalent
to a doughnut. These sugarcoated trousers have yet to catch on at fast-food
outlets! (SuperStrings by F. David Peat)

If replying by e-mail please mail wol. Anything else may get missed amongst
the spam.

 
 
 

1. NEC CDR-260 CD-ROM (Gateway IDE CD-ROM)

Has anyone had success with the alpha CDR-260 driver on sunsite?  I
tried patching and compiling on both 1.0.9 and 1.1.18 sources
(slackware) and while both patched and compiled, neither could accesss
the CD.  I tried a cat /dev/idecd (which I created according to the
insructions) and it gave me an I/O error.

If anyone has made this work, please mail me.  (Include kernal
version).  I'll summarize if there is interest.

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