1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Larry Snyd » Sat, 24 Jun 1995 04:00:00



I just purchased an Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium and
am getting kernel panics and various other strange errors
when running in the 90mhz mode (if I change switch 7 to
reduce the clock speed, the motherboard works just fine -
I assume I am changing the clock speed to 75 mhz - but the
manual states that switch 7 changes the external clock speed
from 60 to 50 mhz).  Norton reports an SI of 284 with the clock
speed in the "60" position and 249 in the 50 (a 66 mhz Pentium
according to Norton is around 228).

1.2.8 panics and yields "segmentation faults and general
protection errors EIP WID ..." in the higher speed but works
just fine in the lower speed

Is this a general problem with this motherboard?  Other
hardware is a Connor 1275A EIDE drive connected to the motherboard
controller, an PCI ATI mach 64 with 2 megs of VRAM and 2
on board serial and parallel ports..

I have 32 megs of 70ns SIMMs on board with 256 of cache

Any ideas?

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1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by David F » Sun, 25 Jun 1995 04:00:00


] 1.2.8 panics and yields "segmentation faults and general
] protection errors EIP WID ..." in the higher speed but works
] just fine in the lower speed
]
] Is this a general problem with this motherboard?...
]
] I have 32 megs of 70ns SIMMs on board with 256 of cache

You may have a SIMM that can't quite keep up.  If the
triton chipset could do parity checking you would get
parity errors in this case, but it can't.
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1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Larry Snyd » Mon, 26 Jun 1995 04:00:00





writes:

>] 1.2.8 panics and yields "segmentation faults and general
>] protection errors EIP WID ..." in the higher speed but works
>] just fine in the lower speed
>]
>] Is this a general problem with this motherboard?...
>]
>] I have 32 megs of 70ns SIMMs on board with 256 of cache

>You may have a SIMM that can't quite keep up.  If the
>triton chipset could do parity checking you would get
>parity errors in this case, but it can't.

A couple of additional comments --

first, the CPU is a 100 mhz Pentium and the MB is rated according
to the "Advanced ZP expandable desktop baseboard preliminary
documentation dated version 0.4 in Feb 95" and will handle 75 &
90 mhz parts.  The MB has a 100 mhz CPU and if the switches are set
for a 75 mhz part, the machine boots in the 75 mhz mode, likewise 90
and likewise 100 mhz.  In the 75mhz mode, everything runs just dandy
(DOS, Windows 3.11 and Linux).  In the 90 and 100 mhz modes, both
Windows and Linux develop errors - general protection errors.

The memory passes the 7 hours of norton's comprehensive memory test
(32 megs of 70NS simms) in both the 90 and 100 mhz modes.

The 100mhz CPU was working fine in another motherboard (plus, how
often to CPU's fail?)

The drive is a 1275 meg connor CFS model - and hda1 is a 450 meg DOS
6.22 partition, /dev/hda2 is a 40 meg swap and /dev/hda3 is a 700 meg
Linux partition.  The drive is connected to the onboard EIDE controller.

The only cards on the bus are a ATI Mach64 with 2 megs of VRAM in a
PCI slot and a Creative Labs SB16 in a ISA slot.  Both board were moved
to different slots, and the Creative Labs SB16 board was even removed.

Any ideas?

 
 
 

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Christopher J. Reim » Mon, 26 Jun 1995 04:00:00


        It still could be your memory, I know you ran 7 hours of
mem tests, but the best memory testers are 32 bit OSes, and linux
and windoze are that.  If you could introduce addition RAM and cache
wait states in the 90 and 100 MHz modes do it and see if it is your ram.



: >

Quote:: writes:

: >
: >] 1.2.8 panics and yields "segmentation faults and general
: >] protection errors EIP WID ..." in the higher speed but works
: >] just fine in the lower speed
: >]
: >] Is this a general problem with this motherboard?...
: >]
: >] I have 32 megs of 70ns SIMMs on board with 256 of cache
: >
: >You may have a SIMM that can't quite keep up.  If the
: >triton chipset could do parity checking you would get
: >parity errors in this case, but it can't.

: A couple of additional comments --

: first, the CPU is a 100 mhz Pentium and the MB is rated according
: to the "Advanced ZP expandable desktop baseboard preliminary
: documentation dated version 0.4 in Feb 95" and will handle 75 &
: 90 mhz parts.  The MB has a 100 mhz CPU and if the switches are set
: for a 75 mhz part, the machine boots in the 75 mhz mode, likewise 90
: and likewise 100 mhz.  In the 75mhz mode, everything runs just dandy
: (DOS, Windows 3.11 and Linux).  In the 90 and 100 mhz modes, both
: Windows and Linux develop errors - general protection errors.

: The memory passes the 7 hours of norton's comprehensive memory test
: (32 megs of 70NS simms) in both the 90 and 100 mhz modes.

: The 100mhz CPU was working fine in another motherboard (plus, how
: often to CPU's fail?)

: The drive is a 1275 meg connor CFS model - and hda1 is a 450 meg DOS
: 6.22 partition, /dev/hda2 is a 40 meg swap and /dev/hda3 is a 700 meg
: Linux partition.  The drive is connected to the onboard EIDE controller.

: The only cards on the bus are a ATI Mach64 with 2 megs of VRAM in a
: PCI slot and a Creative Labs SB16 in a ISA slot.  Both board were moved
: to different slots, and the Creative Labs SB16 board was even removed.

: Any ideas?

 
 
 

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Edmund Ronal » Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:00:00


I had a bad Simm, caused me a totally junked file-system. At the time
I was new to Linux, and thought it was my fault I had corrupted files :)

Use Checkit as a memory tester, not Norton! My Simms passed Norton, but
Checkit nailed them (and the retailer :)

Someone might write a cycle-eating memory tester for Linux !

Edmund.

 
 
 

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Larry Snyd » Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:00:00



Quote:

>        It still could be your memory, I know you ran 7 hours of
>mem tests, but the best memory testers are 32 bit OSes, and linux
>and windoze are that.  If you could introduce addition RAM and cache
>wait states in the 90 and 100 MHz modes do it and see if it is your ram.

would you have any *other* suggestions of what I could use to test
the memory?  I really would like to get this taken care of --

According to the documentation, there are no ways to add wait states to
the memory with this bios and or motherboard -- I'm using the original
BIOS and I have no idea if there are any updates available or not -

larr

 
 
 

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Jerry Shekh » Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:00:00


Folks,

Does anyone know if the NCR 53c810 PCI SCSI driver will ever support
the Rev 2 chip?  Mine still fails "Test 1" during bootup (kernel
1.2.10), but works fine with DOS/Win and WinNT.  Please e-mail me if
you know anything.  Your help is greatly appreciated.

Jerry J. Shekhel

 
 
 

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Drew Eckhar » Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:00:00




>Folks,

>Does anyone know if the NCR 53c810 PCI SCSI driver will ever support
>the Rev 2 chip?  

Yes.

Quote:>Mine still fails "Test 1" during bootup (kernel
>1.2.10),

The problem probably isn't that it's rev-2; you have some interrupt
or other problem.
 
 
 

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Adam Goldbe » Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:00:00



: >
: >        It still could be your memory, I know you ran 7 hours of
: >mem tests, but the best memory testers are 32 bit OSes, and linux
: >and windoze are that.  If you could introduce addition RAM and cache
: >wait states in the 90 and 100 MHz modes do it and see if it is your ram.

: would you have any *other* suggestions of what I could use to test
: the memory?  I really would like to get this taken care of --

: According to the documentation, there are no ways to add wait states to
: the memory with this bios and or motherboard -- I'm using the original
: BIOS and I have no idea if there are any updates available or not -

Yup:  They sell SIMM memory testers, they look somethine like EPROM
programmers, but with one SIMM socket on top.  You plug in the SIMM,
(depending on the model, tell it how big the SIMM is), and hit 'go'.

Some time later it tells you pass/fail.

If you are in the Bay Area, I've seen them at Fry's.  Maybe you could
just 'demo' one.

Adam
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1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Sven Palm » Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:00:00


Quote:>first, the CPU is a 100 mhz Pentium and the MB is rated according
>to the "Advanced ZP expandable desktop baseboard preliminary
>documentation dated version 0.4 in Feb 95" and will handle 75 &
>90 mhz parts.  The MB has a 100 mhz CPU and if the switches are set
>for a 75 mhz part, the machine boots in the 75 mhz mode, likewise 90
>and likewise 100 mhz.  In the 75mhz mode, everything runs just dandy
>(DOS, Windows 3.11 and Linux).  In the 90 and 100 mhz modes, both
>Windows and Linux develop errors - general protection errors.

Hi,
As you say, the board supports 75Mhz (50Mhz ext x1.5)
                           and 90Mhz (60Mhz ext x1.5) CPU`s
If you put a 100MHz CPU into the board it will be often configured as
                                     (50Mhz ext x2.0)
The Switches look like the 75MhzConfiguration
However, it should work with         (66MHz ext x1.5)
To do so you have to set the switches 6&7 oposite to the 60Mhz configuration
- well this was pointed out here in the news - so you
should grep through ... since I`m not sure about that.

Well, but why dosn`t it work ...
perhaps the switches say that your CPU should double the external clock
then it works fine with 75Mhz configuration (50Mhz extern)
But it will fail if you use 60Mhz external clock (for 90`er CPUs)
because you CPU will then run at 120Mhz which causes errors.

Howerver, you say you use a 100Mhz Switch_Combination
Is this supported by Your board?

Quote:>The 100mhz CPU was working fine in another motherboard (plus, how
>often to CPU's fail?)

Which external clock (x2 or x1.5 Mode?)

CIAO

 
 
 

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Jim Ourad » Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

> >] 1.2.8 panics and yields "segmentation faults and general
> >] protection errors EIP WID ..." in the higher speed but works
> >] just fine in the lower speed
> >]
> >] Is this a general problem with this motherboard?...
> >]
> >] I have 32 megs of 70ns SIMMs on board with 256 of cache

> Any ideas?

Are you using Gold Plated Simms? The symptons you describe would suggest
that that is the case. Gold Simms and the Tin Sockets on the zp board
are completely incompatible, and will cause all kinds of weird problems,
GPFs being very common.


4229 and #4357, you can see some documetation on this issue.

Good Luck Jim O..

 
 
 

1.2.8 and Intel ZP triton 90mhz pentium

Post by Maynard Ka » Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:00:00


: >] 1.2.8 panics and yields "segmentation faults and general
: >] protection errors EIP WID ..." in the higher speed but works
: >] just fine in the lower speed
: >]
: >] Is this a general problem with this motherboard?...
: >]
: >] I have 32 megs of 70ns SIMMs on board with 256 of cache
: >
: >You may have a SIMM that can't quite keep up.  If the
: >triton chipset could do parity checking you would get
: >parity errors in this case, but it can't.

Hey I seem to be having the exact same problem that you're facing.
I haven't tried configuring my CPU to 75mhz yet though, I'll
try it and see what happens. I have a Pentium-90 on a
Intel Triton motherboard, 32mb RAM.

At first I thought the segmentation faults might be due to the
BusLogic Controller that I am using, but now I'm beginning to
suspect the motherboard itself.

regards

: A couple of additional comments --

: first, the CPU is a 100 mhz Pentium and the MB is rated according
: to the "Advanced ZP expandable desktop baseboard preliminary
: documentation dated version 0.4 in Feb 95" and will handle 75 &
: 90 mhz parts.  The MB has a 100 mhz CPU and if the switches are set
: for a 75 mhz part, the machine boots in the 75 mhz mode, likewise 90
: and likewise 100 mhz.  In the 75mhz mode, everything runs just dandy
: (DOS, Windows 3.11 and Linux).  In the 90 and 100 mhz modes, both
: Windows and Linux develop errors - general protection errors.

: The memory passes the 7 hours of norton's comprehensive memory test
: (32 megs of 70NS simms) in both the 90 and 100 mhz modes.

: The 100mhz CPU was working fine in another motherboard (plus, how
: often to CPU's fail?)

: The drive is a 1275 meg connor CFS model - and hda1 is a 450 meg DOS
: 6.22 partition, /dev/hda2 is a 40 meg swap and /dev/hda3 is a 700 meg
: Linux partition.  The drive is connected to the onboard EIDE controller.

: The only cards on the bus are a ATI Mach64 with 2 megs of VRAM in a
: PCI slot and a Creative Labs SB16 in a ISA slot.  Both board were moved
: to different slots, and the Creative Labs SB16 board was even removed.

: Any ideas?

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