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I'm fairly new to Linux, so these may be dumb questions.

1. Is it even possible to get Linux(Slackware 8, Kernel 2.4.5)
online(Internet, but this should apply to any kind of TCP/IP network.),
without using KDE? Nothing appears to work, and I've found no
documentation to the contrary.

2. How does one set up X properly under Slackware? I've done it easily
with other distributions, but it just doesn't seem to work with Slack. I
invariably get a corrupted display.

Any help would be much appreciated.

now, let's see... linux is ten years old. KDE five. so that means
linux did without network support for five years...

X (and certainly KDE, which runs on top of X), has nothing to do with
networking. so whatever your networking problem is, getting X to work
wont solve it.

Quote:> 2. How does one set up X properly under Slackware?

sure it is. just read the slack book at <http://www.slackware.com/book/>.

if you tell us what problems you're having, we might be able to point
you in the right direction. but please make sure you read the slack
book and the faq that is posted here daily. most newbie problems are
solved in those docs.

HTH

--
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments

http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers

now, let's see... linux is ten years old. KDE five. so that means
linux did without network support for five years...

X (and certainly KDE, which runs on top of X), has nothing to do with
networking. so whatever your networking problem is, getting X to work
wont solve it.

Quote:> 2. How does one set up X properly under Slackware?

read the slack book at <http://www.slackware.com/book/>.

if you tell us what problems you're having, we might be able to point
you in the right direction. but please make sure you read the slack
book and the faq that is posted here daily. most newbie problems are
solved in those docs.

HTH

--
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments

http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers

They are.

Quote:>1. Is it even possible to get Linux(Slackware 8, Kernel 2.4.5)
>online(Internet, but this should apply to any kind of TCP/IP network.),
>without using KDE?

Kde has absolutely nothing to do with TCP/IP networking. All it is is a
window manager.

Nothing appears to work, and I've found no

Quote:>documentation to the contrary.

What do you mean nothing? Nothing what? What's not working, your car,
Windows (forgone conclusion), the garbage disposal... What?

And what documentation to the contrary???? Documentation that says nothing
does, in fact, work?

Brother..

Quote:>2. How does one set up X properly under Slackware? I've done it easily
>with other distributions, but it just doesn't seem to work with Slack.

Why don't I believe this? I don't think you have EVER, NOT ONCE, setup
a Linux distribution, See the question about KDE and networking for the
reasons for my disbelief. Anyone who has ever had X setup and working has to
know that KDE and X have nothing to do with TCP/IP netowrking.

You're lying.

Quote:>I
>invariably get a corrupted display.

Lies

Quote:>Any help would be much appreciated.

Go back to Windows.

Oh, and stop lying.

No they are not.

Quote:>>1. Is it even possible to get Linux(Slackware 8, Kernel 2.4.5)
>>online(Internet, but this should apply to any kind of TCP/IP network.),
>>without using KDE?

Yes. However, not being a slacker, I'm not the best
person to tell you how.

Quote:> Kde has absolutely nothing to do with TCP/IP networking. All it is is a
> window manager.

Dumb ass, KDE is not a window manager. And does a lot with
TCP/IP networking. WTF you think Konqueror is all about??

Quote:> Nothing appears to work, and I've found no
>>documentation to the contrary.

Use google from another machine to check out the
Slackware groups.

Quote:> What do you mean nothing? Nothing what? What's not working, your car,
> Windows (forgone conclusion), the garbage disposal... What?

Why don't you shut the fsck up!?

[...]

Quote:>>2. How does one set up X properly under Slackware? I've done it easily
>>with other distributions, but it just doesn't seem to work with Slack.

The same way you do it with the others, xf86config should work.
Make sure you install the correct X packages and that your
graphics card is supported by the version of X you want to
use.

Quote:> Why don't I believe this? I don't think you have EVER, NOT ONCE, setup
> a Linux distribution, See the question about KDE and networking for the
> reasons for my disbelief. Anyone who has ever had X setup and working has to
> know that KDE and X have nothing to do with TCP/IP netowrking.

Most likely because you have something stuck up your #!se

Quote:> You're lying.

>>I
>>invariably get a corrupted display.

> Lies

>>Any help would be much appreciated.

> Go back to Windows.

> Oh, and stop lying.

If you do not have anything constructive to write, shut up!
Better to keep your mouth shut and everyone think you an idiot
than to open it and confirm the fact to the world!

--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Certified: 40% bastard, 22% of which is tard.
http://www.thespark.com/bastardtest

konqueror *uses* TCP/IP networking, it has absolutely *nothing* to do
with setting it up.

--
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments

http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers

Yes.

Quote:>but this should apply to any kind of TCP/IP network.),
> without using KDE?

Yes.

Nothing appears to work, and I've found no

Quote:> documentation to the contrary.

Divide by zero errorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........

Quote:> 2. How does one set up X properly under Slackware? I've done it easily
> with other distributions, but it just doesn't seem to work with Slack. I
> invariably get a corrupted display.

Like all the other Linux distro's, Slackware uses Xfree86.  The difference
with Slackware is that you must configure it yourself.  

Quote:> Any help would be much appreciated.

You will have to be more specific about your problem. Statements like:
'Nothing appears to work' don't give us a lot to work with.

Read the a.o.l.s FAQ's, chapter 6 of the SlackWare book and the XF86 documentation.
Read the man pages for SuperProbe and xf86config.  If you still have problems,
give us detailed information about your problem and we will try to help you.

Good Luck.

E.S.

--
Remove 'X' to reply.
http://homepage.eircom.net/~ei9gq
Linux 2.4.17

Slackware does it for you, too.  later releases also include a "netconfig"
script that takes you to the correct place in the "install" utility for
network
config.

   --Loren

Quote:

> > Any help would be much appreciated.

> You will have to be more specific about your problem. Statements like:
> 'Nothing appears to work' don't give us a lot to work with.

> Read the a.o.l.s FAQ's, chapter 6 of the SlackWare book and the XF86
documentation.
> Read the man pages for SuperProbe and xf86config.  If you still have
problems,
> give us detailed information about your problem and we will try to help
you.

> Good Luck.

> E.S.

> --
> Remove 'X' to reply.
> http://homepage.eircom.net/~ei9gq
> Linux 2.4.17

Then why in the hell are you in this NG?

Quote:

>> Kde has absolutely nothing to do with TCP/IP networking. All it is is a
>> window manager.
>Dumb ass, KDE is not a window manager. And does a lot with
>TCP/IP networking. WTF you think Konqueror is all about??

Uh manipulating files??? You know a FILE MANAGER????
I believe that's what it's humble beginnings were.

Quote:>> Nothing appears to work, and I've found no
>>>documentation to the contrary.
>Use google from another machine to check out the
>Slackware groups.

>> What do you mean nothing? Nothing what? What's not working, your car,
>> Windows (forgone conclusion), the garbage disposal... What?
>Why don't you shut the fsck up!?

Hmmmm, how about because I don't want to.    (:

Quote:

>>>2. How does one set up X properly under Slackware? I've done it easily
>>>with other distributions, but it just doesn't seem to work with Slack.
>The same way you do it with the others, xf86config should work.
>Make sure you install the correct X packages and that your
>graphics card is supported by the version of X you want to
>use.

>> Why don't I believe this? I don't think you have EVER, NOT ONCE, setup
>> a Linux distribution, See the question about KDE and networking for the
>> reasons for my disbelief. Anyone who has ever had X setup and working has to
>> know that KDE and X have nothing to do with TCP/IP netowrking.
>Most likely because you have something stuck up your #!se

So you're saying that having something stuck up my ass is the reason for:

 Anyone who has ever had X setup and working has to
 know that KDE and X have nothing to do with TCP/IP netowrking.

Wow, my ass and a foreign object (the _whatever_ that is stuck up it)
have a lot of  power.

Quote:

>> You're lying.

>>>I
>>>invariably get a corrupted display.

>> Lies

>>>Any help would be much appreciated.

>> Go back to Windows.

>> Oh, and stop lying
.
>If you do not have anything constructive to write, shut up!
>Better to keep your mouth shut and everyone think you an idiot
>than to open it and confirm the fact to the world!

I think we have all established who the idiot is here.

Have a nice day.

oh really ? this has nothing to do with slackware, it's basic knowledge.

Quote:>>Kde has absolutely nothing to do with TCP/IP networking. All it is is a
>>window manager.
> Dumb ass, KDE is not a window manager. And does a lot with
> TCP/IP networking. WTF you think Konqueror is all about??

allright Mr. dumbass.
Konqueror has as much to do with TCP/IP as let's say... xmms.
if you haven't set up your networking (which is handeled by the kernel
btw...) you can only use it locally.

now, i'd suggest to get your facts straight before you call someone a
dumbass. now crawl back under the rock you came from, or to the distro
that's been keeping you stupid, and stay there.

Jurgen.
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Linux sparkie 2.4.19-pre2 #3 Fri Mar 1 15:33:35 CET 2002 sparc64 unknown
   6:00pm  up 14 days, 21:34, 11 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.05

This doesn't make much sence, I'm afraid.

Quote:>> > 2. How does one set up X properly under Slackware? I've done it easily
>> Like all the other Linux distro's, Slackware uses Xfree86.  The difference
>> with Slackware is that you must configure it yourself.
> Slackware does it for you, too.  later releases also include a "netconfig"

I think perhaps you were meaning to mention xf86config, or the xfreesetup
script that comes with Slackware. xfreesetup just asks the server to probe
for what it can. I suggest xf86config.

Cameron Kerr
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http://thelinuxangel.dyndns.org/

err..., i thought we were talking about networking?     --Loren

So what was the question???

it started out asking about tcp/ip setup, then i missed
the change in the orig post, which turned into a kind
of a rant...

  --Loren

So what do you want to know?