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I have a test box, 486dx33, 8mb memory, 100mb ide, 2serial, 1parallel and when
I load ap 5.2.0.nat33 it only sees 640k of memory.

I can't figure out why it can see the all of the memory, any ideas ?

regards,

dave.

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-- Mike

Homer,

Not so! I use AP/Native (5.2.7), and it recognizes all 16 mb. You are
probably thinking of R83, which did need caching software. When AP/Pro came
out, I tried to upgrade to it, and it (several different releases from Pick
Systems) ate my lunch. I haven't given it a shot at me since, as AP/Native
gives me all I need from this system in my office at home.

Regards,
Charlie

Charlie,

Forgive my ignorance about AP/Native.  I have had R83
and I have AP/PRO and D3 both right now, but I have never
had nor used AP/Native for any length of time.

But I understand that AP/Native while may recognize all 16mb,
but does it actually use it as efficiently as does AP/PRO??
AP/PRO actually uses *ALL* ram in protected mode, and does
not use the portion above 640 as cache.

I don't know why you had problems with your upgrade.
I just upgraded a client from AP/Native to AP/PRO
by doing a file-save - installing AP/PRO, then re-adding
the original accounts with an "ADD-ACCOUNTS 1000"
command.

Didn't even have to recompile.

Larry

David,
Sorry - but AP/Native is not AP/PRO.  If you want AP/Native to see all of
your memory, you will probably have to buy some sort of caching scheme.  Or
- you could just upgrade to AP/PRO and have it not only recognize the extra
memory, but it will also let you use the PicLan interface - assuming you
want to do data transfers and screen paints at much faster rates than 9600
baud.

Larry Hazel.

Quote:> I have a test box, 486dx33, 8mb memory, 100mb ide, 2serial, 1parallel and
when
> I load ap 5.2.0.nat33 it only sees 640k of memory.

> I can't figure out why it can see the all of the memory, any ideas ?

> regards,

> dave.

Quote:> |     o o      |              David Rose,                    |    
--_|\    |
> |      !       |           Holiwill Pty Ltd,                 |     /    
\   |
> |   '''=```    |              Australia.                     |    
\_.--.*/   |

Quote:> Most people I know think that I am crazy            (.. Billy Thorpe
circa 1973)
> Especially the "application programmers" on comp.databases.pick  (me
circa 1994)

Quote:>-- Mike

regards,

dave.

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Especially the "application programmers" on comp.databases.pick  (me circa 1994)

AP/Pro does seem to be more efficient, but my experience is that
AP/Pro actually needs more memory per user than does AP/Native (which
needs more than R83).  This may have to do with frame size.

Doug Dumitru
Modular Software Corporation

Protected mode means it uses 'directly' all the memory. In DOS or R83
(not protected mode) the computer ALWAYS works wit 640 Kb of RAM and the
translate to the rest of the RAM. In any Protected Mode system, AP/PRO,
SCO etc. it uses the complete amount of memory in ONLY one step

Hope this help

joseba real de asua

We're using AP Pro with 128MBytes and find that any process that grinds
through files totaling less than 100MBytes or so get processed 100's of
times faster since there's virtually no disc reads after the first pass.
First pass, of 600,000 item file, may take several minutes, subsequent
passes, sorts, etc only take seconds.

There IS a step at abs load where one tells AP how much memory is
available.  I'm hazy on the exact syntax, don't do this a lot since this
has been an exceptionally stable system.

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I don't know what steps you passed thru, but did you tuch "Enable
extended memory" option or similarly called one while booting from the
1st System floppy?

Sorry for my dull question.

Good luck
Nick
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