PDOX 4.5 Input Form Help Needed

PDOX 4.5 Input Form Help Needed

Post by Peter van Ross » Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:00:00



I'm looking to see if anyone can give me any advice on how to make
a better input form view than seems to be currently available under
Paradox 4.5 for DOS.  What I'd like to be able to do is a make a form
view that will look like the following:

        Rec#1  Rec#2  Rec#3  Rec#4 ... Rec#20
Field1
Field2
Field3
: :  :
Field40

Near as I can tell it's not possible to have more than 23 lines on a
single Paradox 4.5 input form screen, and its also not possible to
display multiple records at the same time on such a form.  Please
correct me if I am wrong about this, Paradox isn't one of my
strong suits.

Is it possible to make such an input view using one of the newer Windows
versions of Paradox?  Preferably is there any add-on program which has
been designed which would let me do this with Paradox 4.5 for DOS?  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Peter van Rossum

 
 
 

PDOX 4.5 Input Form Help Needed

Post by Marilyn Ainsl » Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:00:00




>I'm looking to see if anyone can give me any advice on how to make
>a better input form view than seems to be currently available under
>Paradox 4.5 for DOS.  What I'd like to be able to do is a make a form
>view that will look like the following:

>        Rec#1  Rec#2  Rec#3  Rec#4 ... Rec#20
>Field1
>Field2
>Field3
>: :  :
>Field40

>Near as I can tell it's not possible to have more than 23 lines on a
>single Paradox 4.5 input form screen, and its also not possible to
>display multiple records at the same time on such a form.  Please
>correct me if I am wrong about this, Paradox isn't one of my
>strong suits.

>Is it possible to make such an input view using one of the newer Windows
>versions of Paradox?  Preferably is there any add-on program which has
>been designed which would let me do this with Paradox 4.5 for DOS?  Any
>help would be greatly appreciated.

>Peter van Rossum


If you define your records horizontally, you could use a scrollable window to
see all the records, but it's not ideal.   You could also design the record
layout to cover several lines, possibly using different colours for clarity.  
However if you've got 40 fields to input and display, it's more normal to show
one record per screen, otherwise show fewer fields in multi-record format.  
You can achieve a multi-record layout using Menu | Multi | Records.

You are attempting to show too much data on one screen, whether you're using
DOS or Windows.  You have more flexibilty using PdoxWin with notebooks and
smaller fonts, but you really need to look at your data and decide whether you
can divide it into groups.   Is all the data input at one time or is some
added later?   Is any data duplicated?   Should it all be in one table?

--
Marilyn Ainslie
Cheshire  UK
http://www.cloud9.u-net.com/

 
 
 

PDOX 4.5 Input Form Help Needed

Post by Steven Gree » Sun, 23 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Peter: I agree with every word Marilyn said.. the
data display you are considering is more a report
spec than a table layout.. most often, this type
of layout is the result of a crosstab of a table
with three fields.. your "column" value, your
"row" value, and a "value" value.. this in turn
can be crosstabbed very easily.. and maintains a
table structure that is much easier to query..

--
Steve Green - Diamond Software Group - Waldorf Maryland USA

and Corel's CTech tech support staff, but I don't represent
Borland International or Corel in any official capacity.

 
 
 

PDOX 4.5 Input Form Help Needed

Post by Peter van Ross » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:>Peter: I agree with every word Marilyn said.. the
>data display you are considering is more a report
>spec than a table layout.. most often, this type
>of layout is the result of a crosstab of a table
>with three fields.. your "column" value, your
>"row" value, and a "value" value.. this in turn
>can be crosstabbed very easily.. and maintains a
>table structure that is much easier to query..
>--
>Steve Green - Diamond Software Group - Waldorf Maryland USA

Thank you Steve and Marilyn for the advice.  Unfortunately, the problem I have
is that I really think it is best to represent the data entry form in the
manner I initially outlined.  This is because what we're trying to do is input
data which were already gathered on forms which look like the one I outlined.  
It seems to me that the best way to minimize errors is if the input form looks
like the data sheets.  

While the structure you mention above of 3 fields does have utility, it
suffers from the drawback that the data entry people need to enter the field
values each time.  In the past when I've had people do this I've had to spend
a fair amount of time in error correction (and I still doubt I cleaned up
everything).  So it looks to me like maybe I'll have to do what I wanted to
avoid and look into writing a script program - or does anyone know of another
database program which would do what I originally asked.

Anyway thanks again for your input,

Pete

 
 
 

PDOX 4.5 Input Form Help Needed

Post by Bryan Coy » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00


I agree with the other responders but, since the data collection forms
were already designed with the poor layout, why not input to a
spreadsheet?  A few macros could handle input validation ranges and
output could be to damn near any product.


>I'm looking to see if anyone can give me any advice on how to make
>a better input form view than seems to be currently available under
>Paradox 4.5 for DOS.  What I'd like to be able to do is a make a form
>view that will look like the following:

>        Rec#1  Rec#2  Rec#3  Rec#4 ... Rec#20
>Field1
>Field2
>Field3
>: :  :
>Field40

>Near as I can tell it's not possible to have more than 23 lines on a
>single Paradox 4.5 input form screen, and its also not possible to
>display multiple records at the same time on such a form.  Please
>correct me if I am wrong about this, Paradox isn't one of my
>strong suits.

>Is it possible to make such an input view using one of the newer Windows
>versions of Paradox?  Preferably is there any add-on program which has
>been designed which would let me do this with Paradox 4.5 for DOS?  Any
>help would be greatly appreciated.

>Peter van Rossum