Very Computer

Sorry I didn't get back sooner.  I got involved with another hot  project
that I couldn't drop right after I posted this question

Thanks for all the quick response , even though I didn't get to read it for
a while.

It appears that pcAnywhere or LapLink are required for an internet
connection.

There is pcAnywhere on the host network.  It is only  used for file transfer
now.  DSL is connected to the network switch so all the network computers
can use the DSL.

 I have an older version of LapLink on one of my computers.  I understand
that both ends must use the same system. Any preference??

I have started to look on the pcAnywhere knowledge base for internet
connection info.

I think I am understanding that the  pcAnywhere remote connection is
computer to computer,  not computer to network??   and to access other
computers on the network you must use separate IP address for each??

Can you use network neighborhood to MAP the IP address like another computer
name???

Thanks,      * Jones

Quote:> Hi,

> I need to connect a couple of computers at a remote location to the LAN at
> the main office.

> They need to access Pdox data on a win 98 peer to peer computer and on a
win
> 2000 server. both are on the same network in the office.

> In looking at the Windows manuals it appears I can set up dial up network
at
> both ends.  I would like to use the internet or DSLinternet to improve
> performance.

> 3-com said I just need a router/gateway at each end and turn on the
dial-up
> network.  They couldn't tell me how to connect through the internet.

> Anyone done this???  or know an appropriate network newsgroup or
website???

> Thanks,          Dick Jones

Quote:>Hi Guys,

>Sorry I didn't get back sooner.  I got involved with another hot  project
>that I couldn't drop right after I posted this question

>Thanks for all the quick response , even though I didn't get to read it for
>a while.

>It appears that pcAnywhere or LapLink are required for an internet
>connection.

>There is pcAnywhere on the host network.  It is only  used for file transfer
>now.  DSL is connected to the network switch so all the network computers
>can use the DSL.

> I have an older version of LapLink on one of my computers.  I understand
>that both ends must use the same system. Any preference??

>I have started to look on the pcAnywhere knowledge base for internet
>connection info.

>I think I am understanding that the  pcAnywhere remote connection is
>computer to computer,  not computer to network??   and to access other
>computers on the network you must use separate IP address for each??

Happy connecting
Steve U

The PIM and JSI appear to be Paradox to Paradox, Not Pardox to DataBase.
Am I misunderstanding something???

Thanks,  * Jones

I have printed it and started to read it

Dick Jones

You'd have Paradox on the server side returning data to Paradox
on the client side which requests and uses the data.  So you'd
need a machine running Paradox at the end where the data is (just
like you'd need one running PCAW if you were going to go that
route).  JSI would be faster, IMO because you're just sending the
needed data, not an entire picture of the screen...  (But then I
haven't used PCAW for years... maybe they've sped it up.)

Liz

I was concerned about that.  I was hoping that it would just make the
connection and let Pdox on the remote computer call for the data like it
does on a network connection.

Thanks,    Dick Jones

Think about how Paradox works on a network (with shared files) -
that might be the easy way, but it's also the most band-width
intensive way.  When a table is in the data model of a Paradox
form or report, and a user opens that form/report, ****the entire
table is pulled to the local workstation****  That is why Paradox
requires so much band width!

So, if you alter your methodology to the commonly accepted
client/server or web methodology - where you request ***only the
data you need*** and return only the data that's changed (or that
was originally requested, however you choose), then you greatly
reduce the amount of data coming across the network (internet or
LAN) and thereby increase transmission speeds.

Liz

I think what you are saying is that the remote paradox sends a request to
paradox on the server for data, not to the database, then paradox on the
server sends back the requested data.

If I understand you correctly, it sounds interesting and doable.   However I
don't think I have seen any examples of that.  Can you lead me to some
overview and examples???

I thought true client/server function was one of the reasons people were
using InterBase with OPal.

Thanks,  * Jones

: If I understand you correctly, it sounds interesting and doable.   However
I
: don't think I have seen any examples of that.  Can you lead me to some
: overview and examples???
:

http://www.thedbaddons.com/jsip/

That's how JSI works.  OPAL control on both ends.  Full GUI for the client.

(Up to) 128bit encryption of your data WITHOUT SSL.

--
 Tony McGuire
 http://www.thedbaddons.com
 http://www.thedbcommunity.com
 http://www.thedbcommunity.com/inet/
 http://www.thedbaddons.com/jsip/ (JSI)
"I woke up and was able to get myself out of bed.
Being that fortunate, what's to complain about?"
_____________

I have just started to read the JSI and PIM stuf I printed.

My first approach to this whole thing was to treat it like we are now doing
by taking the Laptop back and forth each month.  All the data is updated in
home office, loaded on the laptop just before it is needed, send it to LV
for a couple of days of activity, send the laptop back home.  I have some
code to collect any changes that were made at LV and transfer it to the
database on the server.  With activity to start each week I thought we could
just copy the updated DB (about 40 MB)each Friday before the activity starts
using pcAW, then transfer the small set of changes (about 3 to 5 MB) back
after the weekend.  However the users wanted network connection.  Sometimes
you try to do what the user wants even if it is wrong. (I remember telling
my kids "your mother is not always right, but she is always your mother").

This JSI might work for us.  I will try to understand it better.

Thanks,    * Jones

Quote:

> : If I understand you correctly, it sounds interesting and doable.
However
> I
> : don't think I have seen any examples of that.  Can you lead me to some
> : overview and examples???
> :

> http://www.veryComputer.com/

> That's how JSI works.  OPAL control on both ends.  Full GUI for the
client.

> (Up to) 128bit encryption of your data WITHOUT SSL.

> --
>  Tony McGuire
>  http://www.veryComputer.com/
>  http://www.veryComputer.com/
>  http://www.veryComputer.com/
>  http://www.veryComputer.com/(JSI)
> "I woke up and was able to get myself out of bed.
> Being that fortunate, what's to complain about?"
> _____________

: This JSI might work for us.  I will try to understand it better.

If you have specific questions feel free to e-mail me; you can also use our
forums:
http://www.jedstar.com/forums/

With JSI that data can be updated 'live' from multiple sites - to multiple
sites (or just have a central server); day to day, minute to minute or
transaction to transaction.

--
 Tony McGuire
 http://www.thedbaddons.com
 http://www.thedbcommunity.com
 http://www.thedbcommunity.com/inet/
 http://www.thedbaddons.com/jsip/ (JSI)
"I woke up and was able to get myself out of bed.
Being that fortunate, what's to complain about?"
_____________

The first page of the JSI suggested reviewing Hercules in Pdox 8 or 9, and
Tony McGuire's Internet Lesions.

I found the tables and forms for Hercules. I have not found any discussion
on it yet.  I copied your Internet lesions and will start reading them soon.

Thanks,      * Jones

Quote:

> : This JSI might work for us.  I will try to understand it better.

> If you have specific questions feel free to e-mail me; you can also use
our
> forums:
> http://www.veryComputer.com/

> With JSI that data can be updated 'live' from multiple sites - to multiple
> sites (or just have a central server); day to day, minute to minute or
> transaction to transaction.

> --
>  Tony McGuire
>  http://www.veryComputer.com/
>  http://www.veryComputer.com/
>  http://www.veryComputer.com/
>  http://www.veryComputer.com/(JSI)
> "I woke up and was able to get myself out of bed.
> Being that fortunate, what's to complain about?"
> _____________

Quote:> I have not found any discussion

Most of us now participate on the -web group on pnews; cnews -web has kinda
died.

Those recommendations were for overall familiarization, tho.  Which the
articles should mostly accomplish as to basics of OPAL and the ocx.

--
--
 For the quickest and best Paradox support see:
 http://www.veryComputer.com/

 Tony McGuire
 http://www.veryComputer.com/
 http://www.veryComputer.com/
 http://www.veryComputer.com/
 http://www.veryComputer.com/(JSI)
"I woke up and was able to get myself out of bed.
Being that fortunate, what's to complain about?"
_____________

: Hi Tony,
:
: The first page of the JSI suggested reviewing Hercules in Pdox 8 or 9, and
: Tony McGuire's Internet Lesions.
:
: I found the tables and forms for Hercules. I have not found any discussion
: on it yet.  I copied your Internet lesions and will start reading them
soon.
:
: Thanks,      * Jones
:
:


: >
: > : This JSI might work for us.  I will try to understand it better.
: >
: > If you have specific questions feel free to e-mail me; you can also use
: our
: > forums:
: > http://www.veryComputer.com/
: >
: > With JSI that data can be updated 'live' from multiple sites - to
multiple
: > sites (or just have a central server); day to day, minute to minute or
: > transaction to transaction.
: >
: >
: > --
: >  Tony McGuire
: >  http://www.veryComputer.com/
: >  http://www.veryComputer.com/
: >  http://www.veryComputer.com/
: >  http://www.veryComputer.com/(JSI)
: > "I woke up and was able to get myself out of bed.
: > Being that fortunate, what's to complain about?"
: > _____________
: >
: >
: >
:
:

I am certainly finding enough to study.  Now I need to put some of it
together and see if  I can make it work.

I am sorry that cNews has fallen off.. I still read it, a lot of the
regulars still respond there.  I don't believe there is nearly the amount of
traffic that there was in '96 or '97 when I first started reading the news
group.

When I first started using Pdox in '86 or '87 , and I think it was with Pdox
1 (maybe 2),  I used PAL-Programmer to start my first applications.  I
thought it was hard to change so I opened the code and started reprogramming
it  The PAL-Programmer was not what I would have liked but it worked to get
me started.

Thanks,  * Jones

Quote:

> > I have not found any discussion

> Go to the -web groups on pnews and cnews.  Unfortunately, a LOT of great
> stuff was deleted from cnews (July 2000, at least 1,000 posts were lost).

> Most of us now participate on the -web group on pnews; cnews -web has
kinda
> died.

> Those recommendations were for overall familiarization, tho.  Which the
> articles should mostly accomplish as to basics of OPAL and the ocx.

Yes.  Kinda like Application Framework that came with p9 and earlier.

A learning tool, perhaps, but hard to modify.  Still, you could inspect the
code it wrote and get SOME idea of what was going on.

--
--
 For the quickest and best Paradox support see:
 http://www.thedbcommunity.com/support/

 Tony McGuire
 http://www.thedbaddons.com
 http://www.thedbcommunity.com
 http://www.thedbcommunity.com/inet/
 http://www.thedbaddons.com/jsip/ (JSI)
"I woke up and was able to get myself out of bed.
Being that fortunate, what's to complain about?"
_____________