Simple Question

Simple Question

Post by jason » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00



How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am having and start
off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system several times
and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it reloads a copy of
the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How can I totally
start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell me how I
can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and still have
stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from not yet
installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't formatting the
drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive, how can I undo
this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain confused. . . .
help :)

--
Jason Blakley

Technical Support Specialist

HiWAAY Information Services
http://www.hiwaay.net
Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by RC » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Formatting the operating system hard drive definitely rids the system of all
files including the registry. What registry troubles reoccur?

RC


> How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am having and
start
> off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system several
times
> and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it reloads a copy
of
> the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How can I
totally
> start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell me how I
> can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and still have
> stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from not yet
> installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't formatting
the
> drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive, how can I
undo
> this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain confused. . . .
> help :)

> --
> Jason Blakley

> Technical Support Specialist

> HiWAAY Information Services
> http://www.hiwaay.net
> Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!


 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by jason » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00


The initial problem is the when trying to use the modem which I have done
for over a year now, it now comes up no dial tone.  when i check the
diagnostics it says port already open.  I have tried the modem in another
computer and it works ok.  I read a book last year called the Registry Bible
that had a little snippet in the back titled "Port Already Open and the
registry error that causes this."  it was like a three line problem but back
then it didn't have this problem so I didn't pay any special attention to
it.  I have since been unable to find a copy of this book.  Every thing that
I found referencing this problem either pointed to a resource conflict or
registry error.  the problem is that the hardware hasn't changed so neither
have the resources (I would think).  and when I tried to format and
reinstall win98 got the same problem.  now I have tried two other modems and
still get the same port already open error.

And an off the wall question regarding life after a format. . . I had a
win95 system last year and windows somehow got corrupted and I had to
reinstall it the first thing that I did was boot from the win95 floppy and
fdisk the drive, then formatted the drive, then booted the win95 install
floppy.  the funny thing was the initial splash screen had been replaced
with one of the Coca Cola bear and the bottle of coke "fizzed" to take the
place of the blue status bar on the bottom of the screen.  now when I
formatted C: and reinstalled windows the initial startup screen was not the
Now running win 95 the first time screen. . . it was the same old familiar
coca cola bear screen.  I have since had to rebuild that system 3 times and
still to this day that bear is there,  I can remove the bmp manually and
replace it with the original but how did it live through several formats?
also referencing the weirdness, after the reinstall I had entries in the
registry referencing my external zip drive.  problem I hadn't plugged it
back in and reinstalled it.  how did they stay in the reg?
The problem is . . . I know that there is an answer out there but am afraid
I might be asking the wrong questions.  Please forgive my dumping the
problem like this but I don't know how else to say it.

--
Jason Blakley
Technical Support Specialist

HiWAAY Information Services
http://www.hiwaay.net
Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!


> Formatting the operating system hard drive definitely rids the system of
all
> files including the registry. What registry troubles reoccur?

> RC



> > How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am having and
> start
> > off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system several
> times
> > and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it reloads a copy
> of
> > the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How can I
> totally
> > start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell me how
I
> > can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and still
have
> > stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from not yet
> > installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't formatting
> the
> > drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive, how can I
> undo
> > this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain confused. . .
.
> > help :)

> > --
> > Jason Blakley

> > Technical Support Specialist

> > HiWAAY Information Services
> > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by DAOQ » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Simple Question ?  - <G>

The only way I know to start the registary over is to either have a copy of
what it was when you first loaded windows or to re-install windows clean.
There is not really a simple way of un-doing everything in the registory
mid-stream.

About hardware -- When you install windows it automatically detects what
hardware you have on your system and put all the information on the hardware
in the registary.  It also installs the programs the hardware needs which in
turn automatically puts there settings in the registory.

What I am saying is this -- It's not recalling a copy of the registory after
you re-format your drive.  It's making a registory as windows installs and
detects your hardware and installs the drivers for the hardware you have
etc.

Even if you buy a new drive that has never been used before and install
windows you will still end up with all the hardware settings in the
registory when windows first installs.

If you describe your registory problem then the people on this group will
have something to go on so we can try to help you fix it.

It could be a program you are using that is causing problems (or) a setting
that windows doesn't detect correctly that you need to tweek in (or) a piece
of your hardware that isn't standard (or) something that you install that is
slowly corrupting the registory and you don't know it (or) a bad spot on the
hard drive where the registory is stored (or) ........ etc.

We don't know until you describe your problem in detail !

It may be simple -- It may not be ! <G>
--

DAOQ
(anit-Spammed use my sig. with MSN's ending to E-Mail)

----------------------


> Formatting the operating system hard drive definitely rids the system of
all
> files including the registry. What registry troubles reoccur?

> RC



> > How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am having and
> start
> > off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system several
> times
> > and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it reloads a copy
> of
> > the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How can I
> totally
> > start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell me how
I
> > can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and still
have
> > stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from not yet
> > installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't formatting
> the
> > drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive, how can I
> undo
> > this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain confused. . .
.
> > help :)

> > --
> > Jason Blakley

> > Technical Support Specialist

> > HiWAAY Information Services
> > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by DAOQ » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00


When you did the F-disk -- How did you do it ? (and) What Format command did
you use afterward ?

Also -- What is on the boot disk you are using ? -- Did you make it just for
the re-format or when you first got the system.

Do you have the Win98 CD (or) a restore CD from your computer's maker ?

Did you restore then install Win98 (or) install Win98 clean ?

Is your modem a winmodem ?  I had a problem about a year ago with mine
saying the port was already open and had to re-format to get it to stop.  I
never did find out what caused it to start with.
--

DAOQ

(Anti-Spammed use my sig. with MSN's ending to E-Mail)

----------------------


> The initial problem is the when trying to use the modem which I have done
> for over a year now, it now comes up no dial tone.  when i check the
> diagnostics it says port already open.  I have tried the modem in another
> computer and it works ok.  I read a book last year called the Registry
Bible
> that had a little snippet in the back titled "Port Already Open and the
> registry error that causes this."  it was like a three line problem but
back
> then it didn't have this problem so I didn't pay any special attention to
> it.  I have since been unable to find a copy of this book.  Every thing
that
> I found referencing this problem either pointed to a resource conflict or
> registry error.  the problem is that the hardware hasn't changed so
neither
> have the resources (I would think).  and when I tried to format and
> reinstall win98 got the same problem.  now I have tried two other modems
and
> still get the same port already open error.

> And an off the wall question regarding life after a format. . . I had a
> win95 system last year and windows somehow got corrupted and I had to
> reinstall it the first thing that I did was boot from the win95 floppy and
> fdisk the drive, then formatted the drive, then booted the win95 install
> floppy.  the funny thing was the initial splash screen had been replaced
> with one of the Coca Cola bear and the bottle of coke "fizzed" to take the
> place of the blue status bar on the bottom of the screen.  now when I
> formatted C: and reinstalled windows the initial startup screen was not
the
> Now running win 95 the first time screen. . . it was the same old familiar
> coca cola bear screen.  I have since had to rebuild that system 3 times
and
> still to this day that bear is there,  I can remove the bmp manually and
> replace it with the original but how did it live through several formats?
> also referencing the weirdness, after the reinstall I had entries in the
> registry referencing my external zip drive.  problem I hadn't plugged it
> back in and reinstalled it.  how did they stay in the reg?
> The problem is . . . I know that there is an answer out there but am
afraid
> I might be asking the wrong questions.  Please forgive my dumping the
> problem like this but I don't know how else to say it.

> --
> Jason Blakley
> Technical Support Specialist

> HiWAAY Information Services
> http://www.hiwaay.net
> Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!



> > Formatting the operating system hard drive definitely rids the system of
> all
> > files including the registry. What registry troubles reoccur?

> > RC



> > > How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am having and
> > start
> > > off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system several
> > times
> > > and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it reloads a
copy
> > of
> > > the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How can I
> > totally
> > > start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell me
how
> I
> > > can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and still
> have
> > > stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from not
yet
> > > installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't
formatting
> > the
> > > drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive, how can
I
> > undo
> > > this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain confused. .
.
> .
> > > help :)

> > > --
> > > Jason Blakley

> > > Technical Support Specialist

> > > HiWAAY Information Services
> > > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by jason » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00


keep in mind that I am not freaking out our anything it is just some
unanswered questions and they have kept me baffled.  I mean hell I have sold
that old computer but it still stuck in my mind like a rock in my shoe and I
have never been able to explain it.  especially still having reg keys from
my zip drive and scanner which wasn't even plugged in or installed. after
the recovery.  ( I had to put the system back to factory hardware otherwise
the recovery disk would scream. . . thats why I stopped using it).


Quote:> When you did the F-disk -- How did you do it ? (and) What Format command
did
> you use afterward ?

i ran fdisk from the boot disk and deleted all of the partitions and
recreated the primary dos partition. then i exited fdisk and after it
rebooted i did a format c: /s,   i have tried to format c: then after the
format was complete i typed sys c: and it didn't change it either way i did
it.
Quote:

> Also -- What is on the boot disk you are using ? -- Did you make it just
for
> the re-format or when you first got the system.

the one that i made when i installed windows the first time.

Quote:> Do you have the Win98 CD (or) a restore CD from your computer's maker ?

i have used both.  it was 95 for the weird problem. and my pc is an ibm
craptiva.  the first couple of times the coke bearwas still there it was
with the recovery disk so the next time i formated with the boot floppy and
used another win95 new install cd and he was still there.  because of other
problems i was having i stopped using the recovery disk and just used the
boot disk and win95 cd combo from then on out.

Quote:

> Did you restore then install Win98 (or) install Win98 clean ?

as above both.

Quote:

> Is your modem a winmodem ?  I had a problem about a year ago with mine
> saying the port was already open and had to re-format to get it to stop.
I
> never did find out what caused it to start with.
> --

yeah in this case it is an Aopen winmodem, The one with the port already
open problem, but in the craptiva with 95 it was a lucent winmodem (but i
never had problems with the lucent modem)

> DAOQ

> (Anti-Spammed use my sig. with MSN's ending to E-Mail)

> ----------------------



> > The initial problem is the when trying to use the modem which I have
done
> > for over a year now, it now comes up no dial tone.  when i check the
> > diagnostics it says port already open.  I have tried the modem in
another
> > computer and it works ok.  I read a book last year called the Registry
> Bible
> > that had a little snippet in the back titled "Port Already Open and the
> > registry error that causes this."  it was like a three line problem but
> back
> > then it didn't have this problem so I didn't pay any special attention
to
> > it.  I have since been unable to find a copy of this book.  Every thing
> that
> > I found referencing this problem either pointed to a resource conflict
or
> > registry error.  the problem is that the hardware hasn't changed so
> neither
> > have the resources (I would think).  and when I tried to format and
> > reinstall win98 got the same problem.  now I have tried two other modems
> and
> > still get the same port already open error.

> > And an off the wall question regarding life after a format. . . I had a
> > win95 system last year and windows somehow got corrupted and I had to
> > reinstall it the first thing that I did was boot from the win95 floppy
and
> > fdisk the drive, then formatted the drive, then booted the win95 install
> > floppy.  the funny thing was the initial splash screen had been replaced
> > with one of the Coca Cola bear and the bottle of coke "fizzed" to take
the
> > place of the blue status bar on the bottom of the screen.  now when I
> > formatted C: and reinstalled windows the initial startup screen was not
> the
> > Now running win 95 the first time screen. . . it was the same old
familiar
> > coca cola bear screen.  I have since had to rebuild that system 3 times
> and
> > still to this day that bear is there,  I can remove the bmp manually and
> > replace it with the original but how did it live through several
formats?
> > also referencing the weirdness, after the reinstall I had entries in the
> > registry referencing my external zip drive.  problem I hadn't plugged it
> > back in and reinstalled it.  how did they stay in the reg?
> > The problem is . . . I know that there is an answer out there but am
> afraid
> > I might be asking the wrong questions.  Please forgive my dumping the
> > problem like this but I don't know how else to say it.

> > --
> > Jason Blakley
> > Technical Support Specialist

> > HiWAAY Information Services
> > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!



> > > Formatting the operating system hard drive definitely rids the system
of
> > all
> > > files including the registry. What registry troubles reoccur?

> > > RC



> > > > How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am having
and
> > > start
> > > > off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system
several
> > > times
> > > > and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it reloads a
> copy
> > > of
> > > > the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How can I
> > > totally
> > > > start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell me
> how
> > I
> > > > can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and still
> > have
> > > > stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from not
> yet
> > > > installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't
> formatting
> > > the
> > > > drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive, how
can
> I
> > > undo
> > > > this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain confused.
.
> .
> > .
> > > > help :)

> > > > --
> > > > Jason Blakley

> > > > Technical Support Specialist

> > > > HiWAAY Information Services
> > > > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > > > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by Knows9 » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00


jasonb, see if this helps ......
If you receive a "Can't open port" or "Port already open" error message,
there is either a hardware problem, a resource conflict, or another program
(such as a fax or voice mail program) has control of the COM port.
For additional troubleshooting steps, see the:
"Could Not Open Port" Error Message
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q190/5/54.ASP
When you try to use your modem, you may receive the following error message:

Could not open port

This error message is typically the result of a resource conflict or a
program loading from the StartUp folder that opens a communication port. Use
the troubleshooting steps in the "Resource Conflicts" section earlier in
this article to resolve this error message. To temporarily disable programs
in the StartUp folder, follow these steps:

Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools,
and then click System Information.

On the Tools menu, click System Configuration Utility.

Click the Startup tab. For programs that may control your modem, click the
programs's check box to clear it. If you are unsure whether or not a
specific program should be disabled, click to clear all of the check boxes
except for the following check boxes:

ScanRegistry

SystemTray

LoadPowerProfile

TaskMonitor
=======================================================
1. Try disabling Com2 in your BIOS - This should free up a IRQ
2. Resolve any conflicts in Device Manager, such as *Other Devices*, etc.

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> The initial problem is the when trying to use the modem which I have done
> for over a year now, it now comes up no dial tone.  when i check the
> diagnostics it says port already open.  I have tried the modem in another
> computer and it works ok.  I read a book last year called the Registry
Bible
> that had a little snippet in the back titled "Port Already Open and the
> registry error that causes this."  it was like a three line problem but
back
> then it didn't have this problem so I didn't pay any special attention to
> it.  I have since been unable to find a copy of this book.  Every thing
that
> I found referencing this problem either pointed to a resource conflict or
> registry error.  the problem is that the hardware hasn't changed so
neither
> have the resources (I would think).  and when I tried to format and
> reinstall win98 got the same problem.  now I have tried two other modems
and
> still get the same port already open error.

> And an off the wall question regarding life after a format. . . I had a
> win95 system last year and windows somehow got corrupted and I had to
> reinstall it the first thing that I did was boot from the win95 floppy and
> fdisk the drive, then formatted the drive, then booted the win95 install
> floppy.  the funny thing was the initial splash screen had been replaced
> with one of the Coca Cola bear and the bottle of coke "fizzed" to take the
> place of the blue status bar on the bottom of the screen.  now when I
> formatted C: and reinstalled windows the initial startup screen was not
the
> Now running win 95 the first time screen. . . it was the same old familiar
> coca cola bear screen.  I have since had to rebuild that system 3 times
and
> still to this day that bear is there,  I can remove the bmp manually and
> replace it with the original but how did it live through several formats?
> also referencing the weirdness, after the reinstall I had entries in the
> registry referencing my external zip drive.  problem I hadn't plugged it
> back in and reinstalled it.  how did they stay in the reg?
> The problem is . . . I know that there is an answer out there but am
afraid
> I might be asking the wrong questions.  Please forgive my dumping the
> problem like this but I don't know how else to say it.

> --
> Jason Blakley
> Technical Support Specialist

> HiWAAY Information Services
> http://www.hiwaay.net
> Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!



> > Formatting the operating system hard drive definitely rids the system of
> all
> > files including the registry. What registry troubles reoccur?

> > RC



> > > How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am having and
> > start
> > > off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system several
> > times
> > > and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it reloads a
copy
> > of
> > > the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How can I
> > totally
> > > start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell me
how
> I
> > > can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and still
> have
> > > stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from not
yet
> > > installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't
formatting
> > the
> > > drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive, how can
I
> > undo
> > > this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain confused. .
.
> .
> > > help :)

> > > --
> > > Jason Blakley

> > > Technical Support Specialist

> > > HiWAAY Information Services
> > > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by Knows9 » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00


jason, ahh! recovery disk ..... that's why!
Your Recovery disk (CD) is preconfigured with installed devices, such as
your Zip drive. Reinstalling, re-enters this info from the CD, not Win98
detecting the hardware. This holds true for your modem settings.

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> keep in mind that I am not freaking out our anything it is just some
> unanswered questions and they have kept me baffled.  I mean hell I have
sold
> that old computer but it still stuck in my mind like a rock in my shoe and
I
> have never been able to explain it.  especially still having reg keys from
> my zip drive and scanner which wasn't even plugged in or installed. after
> the recovery.  ( I had to put the system back to factory hardware
otherwise
> the recovery disk would scream. . . thats why I stopped using it).



> > When you did the F-disk -- How did you do it ? (and) What Format command
> did
> > you use afterward ?

> i ran fdisk from the boot disk and deleted all of the partitions and
> recreated the primary dos partition. then i exited fdisk and after it
> rebooted i did a format c: /s,   i have tried to format c: then after the
> format was complete i typed sys c: and it didn't change it either way i
did
> it.

> > Also -- What is on the boot disk you are using ? -- Did you make it just
> for
> > the re-format or when you first got the system.

> the one that i made when i installed windows the first time.

> > Do you have the Win98 CD (or) a restore CD from your computer's maker ?
> i have used both.  it was 95 for the weird problem. and my pc is an ibm
> craptiva.  the first couple of times the coke bearwas still there it was
> with the recovery disk so the next time i formated with the boot floppy
and
> used another win95 new install cd and he was still there.  because of
other
> problems i was having i stopped using the recovery disk and just used the
> boot disk and win95 cd combo from then on out.

> > Did you restore then install Win98 (or) install Win98 clean ?

> as above both.

> > Is your modem a winmodem ?  I had a problem about a year ago with mine
> > saying the port was already open and had to re-format to get it to stop.
> I
> > never did find out what caused it to start with.
> > --

> yeah in this case it is an Aopen winmodem, The one with the port already
> open problem, but in the craptiva with 95 it was a lucent winmodem (but i
> never had problems with the lucent modem)

> > DAOQ

> > (Anti-Spammed use my sig. with MSN's ending to E-Mail)

> > ----------------------



> > > The initial problem is the when trying to use the modem which I have
> done
> > > for over a year now, it now comes up no dial tone.  when i check the
> > > diagnostics it says port already open.  I have tried the modem in
> another
> > > computer and it works ok.  I read a book last year called the Registry
> > Bible
> > > that had a little snippet in the back titled "Port Already Open and
the
> > > registry error that causes this."  it was like a three line problem
but
> > back
> > > then it didn't have this problem so I didn't pay any special attention
> to
> > > it.  I have since been unable to find a copy of this book.  Every
thing
> > that
> > > I found referencing this problem either pointed to a resource conflict
> or
> > > registry error.  the problem is that the hardware hasn't changed so
> > neither
> > > have the resources (I would think).  and when I tried to format and
> > > reinstall win98 got the same problem.  now I have tried two other
modems
> > and
> > > still get the same port already open error.

> > > And an off the wall question regarding life after a format. . . I had
a
> > > win95 system last year and windows somehow got corrupted and I had to
> > > reinstall it the first thing that I did was boot from the win95 floppy
> and
> > > fdisk the drive, then formatted the drive, then booted the win95
install
> > > floppy.  the funny thing was the initial splash screen had been
replaced
> > > with one of the Coca Cola bear and the bottle of coke "fizzed" to take
> the
> > > place of the blue status bar on the bottom of the screen.  now when I
> > > formatted C: and reinstalled windows the initial startup screen was
not
> > the
> > > Now running win 95 the first time screen. . . it was the same old
> familiar
> > > coca cola bear screen.  I have since had to rebuild that system 3
times
> > and
> > > still to this day that bear is there,  I can remove the bmp manually
and
> > > replace it with the original but how did it live through several
> formats?
> > > also referencing the weirdness, after the reinstall I had entries in
the
> > > registry referencing my external zip drive.  problem I hadn't plugged
it
> > > back in and reinstalled it.  how did they stay in the reg?
> > > The problem is . . . I know that there is an answer out there but am
> > afraid
> > > I might be asking the wrong questions.  Please forgive my dumping the
> > > problem like this but I don't know how else to say it.

> > > --
> > > Jason Blakley
> > > Technical Support Specialist

> > > HiWAAY Information Services
> > > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!



> > > > Formatting the operating system hard drive definitely rids the
system
> of
> > > all
> > > > files including the registry. What registry troubles reoccur?

> > > > RC



> > > > > How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am having
> and
> > > > start
> > > > > off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system
> several
> > > > times
> > > > > and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it reloads
a
> > copy
> > > > of
> > > > > the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How can
I
> > > > totally
> > > > > start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell
me
> > how
> > > I
> > > > > can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and
still
> > > have
> > > > > stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from
not
> > yet
> > > > > installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't
> > formatting
> > > > the
> > > > > drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive, how
> can
> > I
> > > > undo
> > > > > this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain
confused.
> .
> > .
> > > .
> > > > > help :)

> > > > > --
> > > > > Jason Blakley

> > > > > Technical Support Specialist

> > > > > HiWAAY Information Services
> > > > > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > > > > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by jason » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00


na dude. . . the zip drive is aftermarket.  nethier of them (scanner too.)
came with the pc.  and they weren't even in the same room when i did the
initial recovery or the subsequent format and rebuilds ( they were hooked up
to my other pc.)  but the important thing is neither of them came with the
pc nor were there any support installed in the original setup for them (each
came with their own install setups on cd.  the other thing that has me
confused is the coke bear startup screen. that lived through both the
recoverys and the format reinstalls.

--
Jason Blakley
Technical Support Specialist
supp...@hiwaay.net
HiWAAY Information Services
http://www.hiwaay.net
Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

Knows98 <mburg...@NOmail.uscom.com> wrote in message

news:O2DSiQYx#GA.242@cppssbbsa02.microsoft.com...
> jason, ahh! recovery disk ..... that's why!
> Your Recovery disk (CD) is preconfigured with installed devices, such as
> your Zip drive. Reinstalling, re-enters this info from the CD, not Win98
> detecting the hardware. This holds true for your modem settings.

> Custom Concepts Electronic Support Center
> "Troubleshooting Self-Inflicted User Problems"
> http://members.aol.com/Knows98/index.htm
> Please post replies to this Newsgroup
> [remove NO from email address to reply directly]

> jasonb <jas...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> news:e5a8ALYx#GA.283@cppssbbsa03...
> > keep in mind that I am not freaking out our anything it is just some
> > unanswered questions and they have kept me baffled.  I mean hell I have
> sold
> > that old computer but it still stuck in my mind like a rock in my shoe
and
> I
> > have never been able to explain it.  especially still having reg keys
from
> > my zip drive and scanner which wasn't even plugged in or installed.
after
> > the recovery.  ( I had to put the system back to factory hardware
> otherwise
> > the recovery disk would scream. . . thats why I stopped using it).

> > DAOQ <NoM...@ForMe.Com> wrote in message
> > news:OjMFZ#Xx#GA.241@cppssbbsa02.microsoft.com...
> > > When you did the F-disk -- How did you do it ? (and) What Format
command
> > did
> > > you use afterward ?

> > i ran fdisk from the boot disk and deleted all of the partitions and
> > recreated the primary dos partition. then i exited fdisk and after it
> > rebooted i did a format c: /s,   i have tried to format c: then after
the
> > format was complete i typed sys c: and it didn't change it either way i
> did
> > it.

> > > Also -- What is on the boot disk you are using ? -- Did you make it
just
> > for
> > > the re-format or when you first got the system.

> > the one that i made when i installed windows the first time.

> > > Do you have the Win98 CD (or) a restore CD from your computer's maker
?
> > i have used both.  it was 95 for the weird problem. and my pc is an ibm
> > craptiva.  the first couple of times the coke bearwas still there it was
> > with the recovery disk so the next time i formated with the boot floppy
> and
> > used another win95 new install cd and he was still there.  because of
> other
> > problems i was having i stopped using the recovery disk and just used
the
> > boot disk and win95 cd combo from then on out.

> > > Did you restore then install Win98 (or) install Win98 clean ?

> > as above both.

> > > Is your modem a winmodem ?  I had a problem about a year ago with mine
> > > saying the port was already open and had to re-format to get it to
stop.
> > I
> > > never did find out what caused it to start with.
> > > --

> > yeah in this case it is an Aopen winmodem, The one with the port already
> > open problem, but in the craptiva with 95 it was a lucent winmodem (but
i
> > never had problems with the lucent modem)

> > > DAOQ

> > > (Anti-Spammed use my sig. with MSN's ending to E-Mail)

> > > ----------------------

> > > jasonb <jas...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> > > news:OQZkdvXx#GA.234@cppssbbsa03...
> > > > The initial problem is the when trying to use the modem which I have
> > done
> > > > for over a year now, it now comes up no dial tone.  when i check the
> > > > diagnostics it says port already open.  I have tried the modem in
> > another
> > > > computer and it works ok.  I read a book last year called the
Registry
> > > Bible
> > > > that had a little snippet in the back titled "Port Already Open and
> the
> > > > registry error that causes this."  it was like a three line problem
> but
> > > back
> > > > then it didn't have this problem so I didn't pay any special
attention
> > to
> > > > it.  I have since been unable to find a copy of this book.  Every
> thing
> > > that
> > > > I found referencing this problem either pointed to a resource
conflict
> > or
> > > > registry error.  the problem is that the hardware hasn't changed so
> > > neither
> > > > have the resources (I would think).  and when I tried to format and
> > > > reinstall win98 got the same problem.  now I have tried two other
> modems
> > > and
> > > > still get the same port already open error.

> > > > And an off the wall question regarding life after a format. . . I
had
> a
> > > > win95 system last year and windows somehow got corrupted and I had
to
> > > > reinstall it the first thing that I did was boot from the win95
floppy
> > and
> > > > fdisk the drive, then formatted the drive, then booted the win95
> install
> > > > floppy.  the funny thing was the initial splash screen had been
> replaced
> > > > with one of the Coca Cola bear and the bottle of coke "fizzed" to
take
> > the
> > > > place of the blue status bar on the bottom of the screen.  now when
I
> > > > formatted C: and reinstalled windows the initial startup screen was
> not
> > > the
> > > > Now running win 95 the first time screen. . . it was the same old
> > familiar
> > > > coca cola bear screen.  I have since had to rebuild that system 3
> times
> > > and
> > > > still to this day that bear is there,  I can remove the bmp manually
> and
> > > > replace it with the original but how did it live through several
> > formats?
> > > > also referencing the weirdness, after the reinstall I had entries in
> the
> > > > registry referencing my external zip drive.  problem I hadn't
plugged
> it
> > > > back in and reinstalled it.  how did they stay in the reg?
> > > > The problem is . . . I know that there is an answer out there but am
> > > afraid
> > > > I might be asking the wrong questions.  Please forgive my dumping
the
> > > > problem like this but I don't know how else to say it.

> > > > --
> > > > Jason Blakley
> > > > Technical Support Specialist
> > > > supp...@hiwaay.net
> > > > HiWAAY Information Services
> > > > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > > > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

> > > > RC <nospamsmooc...@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:#uP4ghXx#GA.98@cppssbbsa04...
> > > > > Formatting the operating system hard drive definitely rids the
> system
> > of
> > > > all
> > > > > files including the registry. What registry troubles reoccur?

> > > > > RC

> > > > > jasonb <jas...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:eSpr3aXx#GA.268@cppssbbsa03...
> > > > > > How do I just remove all of the registry problems that I am
having
> > and
> > > > > start
> > > > > > off fresh with a clean registry.  I have formatted this system
> > several
> > > > > times
> > > > > > and the same registry problems keep returning, I think it
reloads
> a
> > > copy
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the same registry after I format it.  How does it do that? How
can
> I
> > > > > totally
> > > > > > start over with a new default registry.  Can someone please tell
> me
> > > how
> > > > I
> > > > > > can do a low-level format from bios, and reinstall windows and
> still
> > > > have
> > > > > > stray registry settings from the last setup  (i.e.. entries from
> not
> > > yet
> > > > > > installed hardware, or previously removed software).  Doesn't
> > > formatting
> > > > > the
> > > > > > drive kill the registry?  If not, without buying a new drive,
how
> > can
> > > I
> > > > > undo
> > > > > > this problem?  Simple question huh? <grin> I'm just plain
> confused.
> > .
> > > .
> > > > .
> > > > > > help :)

> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jason Blakley
> > > > > > jas...@hiwaay.removeme.net
> > > > > > Technical Support Specialist
> > > > > > supp...@hiwaay.removeme.net
> > > > > > HiWAAY Information Services
> > > > > > http://www.hiwaay.net
> > > > > > Real People, Real Internet, Real Fast!

 
 
 

Simple Question

Post by Ronald Somme » Mon, 05 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Have you checked for viruses?
Quote:>confused is the coke bear startup screen. that lived through both the
>recoverys and the format reinstalls.

 
 
 

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