My guess is that the second is BackupExec executing BACKUP DATABASE .... WITH FILE = ...
If that it the case, I'd say that the file (partial) backup is redundant.
> You see it helps to know that you are using BackupExec and not the native
> SQL Backup. Unfortunately I don't use BackupExec so I can't say with
> certainty but it looks as if the first one used the SQL Backup Plugin to do
> the equivalent of a SQL Server backup and the second one is just doing an OS
> file level backup of the .mdf. If this is true the second one is useless
> since the file can not be properly backed up while running and can not be
> counted on to provide a solid or useful SQL Server backup. I would check
> with someone that know BackupExec first though.
> Andrew J. Kelly
> SQL Server MVP
> > Sorry ! I am aggree with you !
> > This is the DB
> > ebmsdata1 m:\mssql7\data\ebmsdata1.mdf
> > ebmslog1 m:\mssql7\data\ebmslog1.ldf
> > The backup is executed by a third-party tool: Backupexec (Veritas / SQL
> > Agent).
> > I don't have the script.
> > Into SQL Server Error log , starting at 08 :58 :33
> > Database backed up with following information: Database: usiprddb,
> > date and time: 2000/06/26(21:03:44), pages dumped: 495560, first LSN:
> > 2736:12423:5, last LSN: 2736:12430:1, sort order: 42, striped: 0, number
> > dump devices: 1, device information: (FILE=1, TYPE=PIPE:
> > Into SQL Server Error log , starting at 09 :17 :14
> > Database file backed up with following information: Database: usiprddb,
> > creation date and time: 2000/06/26(21:03:44), file list:
> > (ebmsdata1(m:\mssql7\data\ebmsdata1.mdf)), pages dumped: 495538, sort
> > 42, striped: 0, number of dump devices: 1, device information: (FILE=1,
> > TYPE=PIPE:
> > I don't understand why the previous DBA decided to schedule those two (2)
> > jobs for the DB ?
> > I think that we don't need to backup 2 times the same DB ?
> > - Database backup
> > - Database File backup
> > Do you think that it is a good idea to keep those two (2) jobs ? Why ?
> > Thank you
> > Danny
> > > Descriptions are very interpretive and can cause a lot of confusion as
> > > what is actually being done. Please post the scripts so we can see
> > exactly
> > > what these are doing.
> > > --
> > > Andrew J. Kelly
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > > HI,
> > > > I am evaluating our Database Plan (MS SQL server 7.0 on NT 4.0
> > > clustered).
> > > > Our Databases only have 1 .MDF and 1 .LDF.
> > > > Those two (2) jobs are scheduled for each database:
> > > > - Database backup
> > > > - Database File backup
> > > > I don't understand why the previous DBA decided to schedule those two
> > (2)
> > > > jobs for each DB.
> > > > Because we don't have filegroup, I think that we don't realyy need
> > > Database
> > > > File backup.
> > > > Do I missed someting ? Do you think that it is a good idea to keep
> > > two
> > > > (2) job ? Why ?
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Danny